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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 8 (5.8%)
H2 2019 - 15 (10.8%)
H1 2020 - 26 (18.7%)
H2 2020 - 26 (18.7%)
H1 2021 - 11 (7.9%)
H2 2021 - 27 (19.4%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4.3%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.9%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 2 (1.4%)
2024 or Later - 14 (10.1%)
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April 13, 2018, 12:53:25 PM
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I tried catfood once, hadn't really made my mind up yet when I suddenly got thrown out of the zoo.

Fishy as I recall.



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April 13, 2018, 01:15:26 PM

This is gentlemen!
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April 13, 2018, 01:16:21 PM

apollo says we go to 8000 8100 then break 6K for a bottom around 4500-4700

first part done, now its shorting party before the mega rektage

I know the community isn’t ready for it but I think we have seen the bottom for 2018.  This isn’t 2014.

In any event we will find out soon enough.  Shorts still at September 2017 levels.  We all know what happened after September.



Are you talking about early or late September 2017?

You recall in August 2017, we had a price surge that brought prices above $3k and approaching $5k, but in mid September 2017, we had a quick crash down to just below $3k, and thereafter a resumption of upwards that later broke above $5k.... so, I am assuming that you are suggesting that shorts were high after mid-september 2017, too, but they got reckt?  or no?

 There were a lot of recking of shorts throughout late 2017, because there was a lot of FUD surrounding the August 1 Bcash hardfork, but the FUD continued with Segwit2x.. that ended up resolving favorably, too... at least favorable for BTC long and favorable for BTC HODLers.
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April 13, 2018, 01:19:10 PM

Anyone from Vermont? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Q8t7K6Sas
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April 13, 2018, 01:26:09 PM

I meant late September - October.  During a bull market. 
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April 13, 2018, 01:29:38 PM

apollo says we go to 8000 8100 then break 6K for a bottom around 4500-4700

first part done, now its shorting party before the mega rektage

I know the community isn’t ready for it but I think we have seen the bottom for 2018.  This isn’t 2014.


I'm ready for it, I already pointed out this bottom's the biggest we'll get just before the pump started.



My guess is this bottom's the biggest we'll get.


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April 13, 2018, 01:34:14 PM

I can't see Trump starting a war with Syria, knowing the chain reaction it could cause and considering that Assad probably didn't do a tenth of what we are accusing him of. There must be something else at play.

It's the same proxy war shit that's been going on for the last 70 years...
Not quite. For the past several decades lefties have been at the wheel. This is the first time we are in charge.

Lefties like Dubya starting the Iraq war while all the pacifist right wingers were in the streets marching against it.  
It's not a matter of war or not war. War is a constant. It's a matter of motives, the politics that goes on along with it and competence.

The war in Syria is just a front. Russia is expanding their cheap LNG output via Gazprom to countries like China and Iran. Key pipelines run through parts of Syria. The U.S. doesn't like this expansion, as it directly competes with sales of LNG from the U.S., Qatar and Australia. The U.S. has levied sanctions against Russia in an attempt to thwart LNG construction contracts and slow down their expansion.  Needless to say, Russia is getting more and more irritated with U.S. foreign policy.

If you're at the other end of some pipelines the story might be a bit different.
Russia doesn't like pipelines from Qatar reaching eastern Europe and loosing its monopoly and its main trump card in negotiation with the EU. How is this for a theory???

But with a 23% increase 7d, I'm in such a good mood that all the mentioned above can stuck a damn pipe from where their gas is coming out Smiley))

Even if what you are saying is technically accurate to say that the very extreme of the low was $6,510.. and the current price is bounding up to $8,240, you are only at 21% at best, but I suppose if you look across all markets, you can likely stretch the percentages a couple more percent, but still even if I agree with your bullishness sentiment, I find it better to be a bit more conservative with these kinds of discussions, and 19% is about the maximum of reasonable, currently.... that would be from $6610 to $8180 ---- ish...

But I hear what you are saying, too... .. a week ago there was a lot of doom and gloom and sentiment was that the price was going down, and currently the sentiment seems to be up and the price pressure seems to be up..

I am not really going to rest until getting above $9k, and I will feel better to go above $10k.. just to feel better about the bottom, perhaps being "in", and that we are not being faked out too much by the manipulators, who are always present in BTClandia... .. at a certain point, the price goes up and the manipulators lose control over the UP situation, but from my non-whale vantage point, I don't think that we are quite to the loss of control situation, yet.
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April 13, 2018, 01:38:23 PM

I bet Wall Street is behind this manipulation. I heared new futures coming soon. They will let this pop. And on the other side there is MtGox waiting for good prices.
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April 13, 2018, 01:43:43 PM


 Well I had planned to retire in Sharon, VT



but since Tarl didn't mention Bitcoin (and he looks and acts like a bit of a freak).  I'm having second thoughts.
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April 13, 2018, 01:46:58 PM

wanted to Smerit it as well BUT its my last one once again...

I gotchu, fam.

EDIT: Rick came home from work last night and was super depressed about what he owes towards his obligations for our tax bill. Needless to say, he's making a FY18Q1 estimated tax payment to ease the pain for FY18. Accountant recommended Rick's employer withhold at the maximum rate to ease the current end of FY pain.

Also, nice to see us above $8k again. Let's see where this flaming bear-driven car takes us next !

hopefully to many new hights and again a little bit closer to the moon after that destination we go BEYOND my friend   pfff taxes in belgium around BTC still very grey zone we have to be very carefull with what we do .... i think they would like to take 33%  but it would be better if we get it taxfree like germany i think   Roll Eyes

I gotchu, fam.  = thank you and kept word sended a Smerit as wel ....
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 Well I had planned to retire in Sharon, VT



but since Tarl didn't mention Bitcoin (and he looks and acts like a bit of a freak).  I'm having second thoughts.
What, you saying he doesn't seem like a guy you'd like to have a beer with?

That's a retarded way to vote. Check a few of his vids, look at the arguments.
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April 13, 2018, 01:53:51 PM

I was just watching this latest dump and a wall followed it down to 8050 on stamp but was snapped up in one go. Nice.

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April 13, 2018, 02:05:25 PM
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Even if what you are saying is technically accurate to say that the very extreme of the low was $6,510.. and the current price is bounding up to $8,240, you are only at 21% at best, but I suppose if you look across all markets, you can likely stretch the percentages a couple more percent, but still even if I agree with your bullishness sentiment, I find it better to be a bit more conservative with these kinds of discussions, and 19% is about the maximum of reasonable, currently.... that would be from $6610 to $8180 ---- ish...

But I hear what you are saying, too... .. a week ago there was a lot of doom and gloom and sentiment was that the price was going down, and currently the sentiment seems to be up and the price pressure seems to be up..

I am not really going to rest until getting above $9k, and I will feel better to go above $10k.. just to feel better about the bottom, perhaps being "in", and that we are not being faked out too much by the manipulators, who are always present in BTClandia... .. at a certain point, the price goes up and the manipulators lose control over the UP situation, but from my non-whale vantage point, I don't think that we are quite to the loss of control situation, yet.


Hmmm
8240-6510=1730 , and 1730 is 26% of 6510....maybe as without coffee I usually don't argue in math related stuff

I rarely check the price lately, so I just open one of the bookmarks whatever the mouse chooses, check if it's green or red and close it down.

Today a few minutes before posting this I'm sure as hell that it was showing 23% on the 7days stats.


Yeah, I still have bitcoinwisdom in my bookmarks...... Grin Grin Grin Grin
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April 13, 2018, 02:06:22 PM


No one is from Vermont.
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April 13, 2018, 02:45:55 PM

today would be the last possible day to initiate a fiat transfer and make taxes

Bitcoin can go up now
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 Well I had planned to retire in Sharon, VT



but since Tarl didn't mention Bitcoin (and he looks and acts like a bit of a freak).  I'm having second thoughts.
What, you saying he doesn't seem like a guy you'd like to have a beer with?

That's a retarded way to vote. Check a few of his vids, look at the arguments.

 Awww...  I hope he didn't take the video down because of what I said.  I'm all for people reaching for their dreams.  I just don't like him and his views aren't going to change that (even though some of them fit with my own). Nope, no sharing of beer.

edit: Oh no, now they're going after his Wiki page...  this poor soul never had a chance.


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April 13, 2018, 03:19:53 PM

 So contrary to my inner voice, I did a tiny bit of research and you See Ibian, you can judge a book by its cover; which is good because you don't have time to read them all.  Maybe it's not such a retarded method after all.

http://youtube.wikia.com/wiki/Styxhexenhammer666

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April 13, 2018, 03:47:34 PM

today would be the last possible day to initiate a fiat transfer and make taxes

Bitcoin can go up now


This advice says payments are due on the 15th, but the 15th is a Sunday this year. Are you allowed to pay on Monday because of that, or must you pay by today at the latest?

From https://www.taxact.com/reference/library-calendar-fytaxpayers

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If you use a fiscal year (rather than the calendar year) as your tax year, you should change some of the dates in this calendar. Use the following general guidelines to make these changes.

The 3 months that make up each quarter of a fiscal year may be different from those of each calendar quarter, depending on when the fiscal year begins. Also see Saturday, Sunday, or legal holiday.

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Form 1040. This form is due on the 15th day of the 4th month after the end of your tax year.

Estimated tax payments (Form 1040-ES). Payments are due on the 15th day of the 4th, 6th, and 9th months of your tax year and on the 15th day of the 1st month after your tax year ends.
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April 13, 2018, 04:10:41 PM

I can't see Trump starting a war with Syria, knowing the chain reaction it could cause and considering that Assad probably didn't do a tenth of what we are accusing him of. There must be something else at play.

It's the same proxy war shit that's been going on for the last 70 years...
Not quite. For the past several decades lefties have been at the wheel. This is the first time we are in charge.

Lefties like Dubya starting the Iraq war while all the pacifist right wingers were in the streets marching against it.  
It's not a matter of war or not war. War is a constant. It's a matter of motives, the politics that goes on along with it and competence.

The war in Syria is just a front. Russia is expanding their cheap LNG output via Gazprom to countries like China and Iran. Key pipelines run through parts of Syria. The U.S. doesn't like this expansion, as it directly competes with sales of LNG from the U.S., Qatar and Australia. The U.S. has levied sanctions against Russia in an attempt to thwart LNG construction contracts and slow down their expansion.  Needless to say, Russia is getting more and more irritated with U.S. foreign policy.

the worst is that ruskies do it only for warm wet holes... and russians girls love it...

- wage war in ukraine when it signed a denuke treaty... never trust the russians.
- wage war in syria to prop a dynasty, by killing 400'000 + a few millions refugees and dare to critic Libya perfect mission?
- support iran who is waging war against all sunnis nations and tribes and isreal.
- threaten, use force, violence, zero humanity.
. support belarus dictator.
- sell and spread nuclear plants that will meltdown and will cost billions to dismantle (if ever possible).
- wage total information war (look at the comment on zerohedge, it make it unreadable)
- wage total information war against the american people and psyche, to weaken, to hurt.

when I look at the goons of putin, I feel sick... they are disgusting... the un guy is to vomit, the eu guy is worst... that what may pop out out of the so called make up photoshoped model.

Why has the visa ban on all russian civilians not be instated? they all have to leave the west and never return. No more russian visa to the west, no commercial, no touristic, no study, nothing out ! and what will they do to counter? ban visa before the soccer nationalist competition? let me laugh...

it's the perfect move.

ALL VISAS TO NONE RUSSIAN GOV GOONS ARE SINCE NOW REVOKED; 24H TO LEAVE OR ARRESTS; NO MORE NEW VISAS AUTHORIZED IN 10 min. A pen and EO and it's done...

at one point, look at what the germans says... this attitude of submission, of acceptance, of denials...

it's necessary to be firm. A visa ban to all western nations and then extended to those who agree that going assad on a native population is very bad... at least it will permit to triage a little...

I feel disconfortable to know that russians can travel... they shouldn't.

ban all visas to russians...

you know when each little nation like germany put always their immediate interest first, they lose in the wide horizon... Did germans, austrians and others under nazi rules had visas? so why do the russians have ?

at one point those so called "values" that fake and unpatriotic unconstitutionalist peddle will get the west into to troubles...

all those russians working in the west : OUT ! ASAP ! 24 H notice. GO TO HELL !!!!

edit : THEY EVEN STOLE GS OLD ALGOS CODES WTF!!! WAR !!!
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Surely there are other forums where you can shout at each other about Russia?
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