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April 24, 2018, 09:18:13 PM

there is no objective way of measuring 'the majority of end users'.
The price.

So... Apple is The Real Bitcoin!?

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April 24, 2018, 09:24:39 PM

there is no objective way of measuring 'the majority of end users'.
The price.

So... Apple is The Real Bitcoin!?

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Damn boy! You so rich you just be trolling all day.

Crypto has treated us all good!

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April 24, 2018, 09:27:42 PM

10000 incoming?  I have it on good authority that it is possible.  But only if it goes over 9500 first. 
Always the damn fine print.

 10,000 rings the bell for alot of people, it develops its own gravity that likely pulls us in.   I'm more concerned if we keep 9300 area as a low then the higher price.   I presume people will see 5 figures and then take profits, that seems to be how it works most times.  Speculators work to get us there and then pull the plug collectively and we then get the genuine action in reaction to the price.
Not that USD round figures even matter, its just the hive mind or something :p

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I was  confused about this reply to my post the other day..

With regards to zero confirmation spending. That is stretching credibility a bit. Even the name of it says it all zero confirmations means there is zero confirmation.  I don't remember that ever being a thing. I always thought you need about 6 confirmations to consider it safe?

Dash has a great solution, as usual. With Dash 'instant send' a quorum of masternodes accept the transaction and instantly lock it. No double spend can then happen. Shortly afterwards the confirmation goes through into the blockchain the normal way. Just another example of how Dash already solved all these problems ages ago and the power of the tier of masternodes.

FFS - if you're going to shill an altcoin here, at least pick a respectable one.

A respectable coin? Wait.. what ? Huh

but then,

If, sometime in the future, consensus dictates that Bcash is the real Bitcoin, I would acknowledge that. However, I'd also acknowledge that Bitcoin has failed, and I would disengage from the space altogether, and focus on Monero or something.

Ah OK all makes sense now. Yes Monero that respectable coin.




 
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yuh almost all the legendaries round here are xmr infiltrators Cool
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I was  confused about this reply to my post the other day..

With regards to zero confirmation spending. That is stretching credibility a bit. Even the name of it says it all zero confirmations means there is zero confirmation.  I don't remember that ever being a thing. I always thought you need about 6 confirmations to consider it safe?

Dash has a great solution, as usual. With Dash 'instant send' a quorum of masternodes accept the transaction and instantly lock it. No double spend can then happen. Shortly afterwards the confirmation goes through into the blockchain the normal way. Just another example of how Dash already solved all these problems ages ago and the power of the tier of masternodes.

FFS - if you're going to shill an altcoin here, at least pick a respectable one.

A respectable coin? Wait.. what ? Huh

but then,

If, sometime in the future, consensus dictates that Bcash is the real Bitcoin, I would acknowledge that. However, I'd also acknowledge that Bitcoin has failed, and I would disengage from the space altogether, and focus on Monero or something.

Ah OK all makes sense now. Yes Monero that respectable coin.




 

IMO he is right, at least for me XMR is the No2 after Bitcoin. And i think thats the case for many bitcoiners. Dash doesnt stand a chance sry.
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April 24, 2018, 09:43:18 PM

yuh almost all the legendaries round here are xmr infiltrators Cool

Yah, the noble moneroistas. So nobly fucking up every opportunity to grow and expand.



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April 24, 2018, 09:49:05 PM

yuh almost all the legendaries round here are xmr infiltrators Cool

Yah, the noble moneroistas. So nobly fucking up every opportunity to grow and expand.



thx for the meme, libitx

At least they transformed bitmains X3 farm into a huge doorstopper, thats quite noble, isnt it  Grin
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IMO he is right, at least for me XMR is the No2 after Bitcoin. And i think thats the case for many bitcoiners. Dash doesnt stand a chance sry.

 Cheesy Thats funny.

But you can keep your opaque blockchain, makes it fungible right? In which you have to trust without being able to verify that no-one is minting coins sneakily via an exploit or bug. Or you can have privacy hoping that the single point of failure encryption wont be cracked revealing all your transactions. Like here http://hackingdistributed.com/2017/04/19/monero-linkability/ Not to mention slow transactions, bloated blockchain.. Think bitcoin has scaling problems? But Monero does now have a wallet, which is progress.
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The bcash discussions are getting tired. We all know where everyone stands, and no one is going to change his position.

Elwar also created a bcash wall observer.

And yet jbreher refuses to go post his bullshit there.  Roll Eyes

The coin is so worthless that BCash cultists can't even create their own WO thread, a Bitcoin guy had to do it for them.  Kinda like their development history. Grin
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April 24, 2018, 09:58:15 PM

yuh almost all the legendaries round here are xmr infiltrators Cool

Yah, the noble moneroistas. So nobly fucking up every opportunity to grow and expand.



thx for the meme, libitx

At least they transformed bitmains X3 farm into a huge doorstopper, thats quite noble, isnt it  Grin

It's noble as f***.

As is refusing to cooperate with Trezor for inclusion in their HW wallet.

And deliberately fucking over traders who thought they might finally get to make some money on their favorite anon coin.

It's soooo noble.

As is taking their rightful place as the 12th crypto despite being the only worthy alt for most bitcoiners. Right below TRON((?) i thought that was a shitty movie with a shitty remake?).

Yah, Monero is nobly noble noble. That's for sure.

Oh man, they're noble.

Be sure to buy some so you can get fucked over by the noble Monero community over and over again. It hurts, but it's kind of liberating as well. Because it's so noble to lose your money that way.
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April 24, 2018, 10:00:30 PM

The bcash discussions are getting tired. We all know where everyone stands, and no one is going to change his position.

Elwar also created a bcash wall observer.

And yet jbreher refuses to go post his bullshit there.  Roll Eyes

The coin is so worthless that BCash cultists can't even create their own WO thread, a Bitcoin guy had to do it for them.  Kinda like their development history. Grin
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April 24, 2018, 10:00:40 PM

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IMO he is right, at least for me XMR is the No2 after Bitcoin. And i think thats the case for many bitcoiners. Dash doesnt stand a chance sry.

 Cheesy Thats funny.

But you can keep your opaque blockchain, makes it fungible right? In which you have to trust without being able to verify that no-one is minting coins sneakily via an exploit or bug. Or you can have privacy hoping that the single point of failure encryption wont be cracked revealing all your transactions. Like here http://hackingdistributed.com/2017/04/19/monero-linkability/ Not to mention slow transactions, bloated blockchain.. Think bitcoin has scaling problems? But Monero does now have a wallet, which is progress.

1. You can of course verify the total number of coins 2. If the encryption is cracked crypto ist fucked anyway 3. This is old news and was adressed with RingCT 4. Bulletproofs will reduce TX size by 80-90% 5. Ledger support with next release ~ 2 weeks

Monero ist solid development, no hype. It grows slowly but surely.

@Fatman Dont know, but you sound a bit salty.  Ah and trezor integration is in the works.

CMC ist not a good metric, e.g. Rank 5-100 are better coins then the scams in 3&4. ( OK Tron is also a Scam )
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April 24, 2018, 10:14:01 PM

Goldman Sachs: "Mr. President, tech stock technicals are rolling over. So we need to create some FUD so we can short and justify the selloff."

Pres. Trump: "So what do you need me to do?"

Goldman Sachs: "Eh, just attack Amazon with some trade war FUD, or something about unfair taxes. We'll do the rest."

Pres. Trump: "Ok. What about the other FAANGs?"

Goldman Sachs: "We've already got that covered. Already nailed Facebook with the Cambridge Analytica crap. Now we just gotta drum up some shit on Google, Netflix, and maybe Tesla. No worries, by the time we're done they'll all be in the shitter."

Nailed it. They're all going down together.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/24/more-than-85-billion-in-value-wiped-out-from-the-popular-fang-tech-stocks.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/24/apple-loses-64-billion-in-value-as-wall-street-is-in-full-panic-mode.html
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April 24, 2018, 10:20:05 PM

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IMO he is right, at least for me XMR is the No2 after Bitcoin. And i think thats the case for many bitcoiners. Dash doesnt stand a chance sry.

 Cheesy Thats funny.

But you can keep your opaque blockchain, makes it fungible right? In which you have to trust without being able to verify that no-one is minting coins sneakily via an exploit or bug. Or you can have privacy hoping that the single point of failure encryption wont be cracked revealing all your transactions. Like here http://hackingdistributed.com/2017/04/19/monero-linkability/ Not to mention slow transactions, bloated blockchain.. Think bitcoin has scaling problems? But Monero does now have a wallet, which is progress.

1. You can of course verify the total number of coins 2. If the encryption is cracked crypto ist fucked anyway 3. This is old news and was adressed with RingCT 4. Bulletproofs will reduce TX size by 80-90% 5. Ledger support with next release ~ 2 weeks

Monero ist solid development, no hype. It grows slowly but surely.

Interesting. But please elaborate how you know the total number of coins? And guarantee that unaccounted minting cannot occur.
Yes that problem was addressed but had been undetected for some time. People prior to that trusted Monero for privacy. You now trust there isn't another undetected problem or problems in similar way. I reserve judgement on bulletproofs.

 

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