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[Torque]

One of the many reasons I like XMR: https://moneroblocks.info/richlist
Privacy, in general, is extremely undervalued.

And yet any goods/services bought with XMR that are shipped can still be tracked to shipper or receiver. Somewhat undermining the purpose, yeah?

You don't have to give your real name. And you can have it delivered to somewhere other than your home address. Or you could make a mail pool with other people. And if you really want to go all out you can use one or several remailers. And just because a package is tracked doesn't mean the one doing the tracking knows what is inside the box. But you are right, we live in an imperfect world, so we shouldn't even make any effort to improve the situation at all.

Bbut... but... 98% of XMR lovers aren't even buying anything with their moneros. Just trading back and forth for more fiat dollars. So in the grand scheme does it matter? Lol

Just playin' devils advocate, of course. 

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[kurious]

(snip) roach you remind me of Bobby Fisher with your obsession.     

I stayed in Iceland in a friend's place while it was between rentals once, about twelve years ago.  He called while I was staying and asked me to show some guy around who was interested in renting it.

An old, slightly shambling, bearded American turned up and I didn't realise but another Icelandic friend with me that afternoon sussed it immediately, took me aside and whispered 'it's Bobby fucking Fisher' (of course he was pretty well-known there). 

Very weird, he wasn't really friendly and was a little nervy and mumbled kind of obsessively about the ceiling lighting, which he obviously was not happy with.  I talked and showed him around, but there seemed little point in trying to ask him about his career, since we were supposed to be helping rent the place out and he really didn't look like he wanted to engage in talking much. Very odd, sort of sad, too - given who he was.

[Torque]

An old, slightly shambling, bearded American turned up and I didn't realise but another Icelandic friend with me that afternoon sussed it immediately, took me aside and whispered 'it's Bobby fucking Fisher' (of course he was pretty well-known there).  

Is this the guy you saw?

[Raja_MBZ]

Bitcoin still the most decentralized thing in crypto:

% of supply owned by the top 100 accounts, standouts:
- Bitcoin 19%
- Ethereum 35%
- Ripple 98%
- Bitcoin Cash 25%
- Stellar 95%
- IOTA 62%
- NEO 70%

Source: https://arewedecentralizedyet.com/

Gotta get rid of my Stellars for sure.

What about Litecoin? I would guess it is probably even less centralized...

Nope, for Litecoin, percentage of supply owned by the top 100 addresses = 45%.

Interesting... Who would have said...

Check it out:

https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-litecoin-addresses.html

EDIT: ...and the top player seems very much active: https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/address/LTU2cds4aSdXFip9sV4gXphnhxGQjgfjmg

One of the many reasons I like XMR: https://moneroblocks.info/richlist
Privacy, in general, is extremely undervalued.

...and what if that percentage is above 50% in the case of Monero? Litecoin's percentage came as a surprise, and I'd not be surprised if there's a hell lot of XMR owned by top 10 to 100 addresses.

[kurious]

An old, slightly shambling, bearded American turned up and I didn't realise but another Icelandic friend with me that afternoon sussed it immediately, took me aside and whispered 'it's Bobby fucking Fisher' (of course he was pretty well-known there).  

Is this the guy you saw?

The one on the right looks like the guy I remember, if a little less well-trimmed on the beard front. I can't say for sure now and I would not have recognised him them, although of course I was aware of his chess and what a stellar name he once was - he was certainly intense and sharp-eyed.  I don't have any doubt though, and given he was effectively exiled there and it is a very tiny population it's not that incredible to have crossed his path - just wish he'd been the kind who would have chatted and been personable so I had a better story to tell.  He didn't rent the flat in the end.

[kurious]

An old, slightly shambling, bearded American turned up and I didn't realise but another Icelandic friend with me that afternoon sussed it immediately, took me aside and whispered 'it's Bobby fucking Fisher' (of course he was pretty well-known there).  

Is this the guy you saw?

Ah - yep - that is more like it, yep.  Different hat, but I'd pick this one in an identity parade.

[kurious]

...and what if that percentage is above 50% in the case of Monero? Litecoin's percentage came as a surprise, and I'd not be surprised if there's a hell lot of XMR owned by top 10 to 100 addresses.

We won't ever know who had, or has XMR.  But it's no issue for me, I lost all the ones I once had in an unfortunate boating accident.

[Toxic2040]

Interactive price estimator from Forbes if you havent seen it yet. Crude but fun to mess with.
https://dashboards.trefis.com/no-login-required/s9TydlCB?fromforbesandarticle=can-bitcoin-cross-15000-by-the-end-of-the-year


Too nice a day to be looking at charts..see you all later.

p.s. Its Fischer

[kurious]

Too nice a day to be looking at charts..see you all later.

p.s. Its Fischer

Of course, I stand corrected, Sir. Followed OP and should have spotted it. 

[bitserve]

...and what if that percentage is above 50% in the case of Monero? Litecoin's percentage came as a surprise, and I'd not be surprised if there's a hell lot of XMR owned by top 10 to 100 addresses.

We won't ever know who had, or has XMR.  But it's no issue for me, I lost all the ones I once had in an unfortunate boating accident.

The biggest problem about those boating accidents is that if you ever manage to recover them from the bottom of sea, the tax on it would be even more ridiculous than the accident itself. At least with Spanish tax rules..... donno if that's the case in other countries.

If you never manage to recover and convert them to (banking) fiat/registered assets (such as real estate, cars, etc) then everything is fine...

[realr0ach]

(snip) roach you remind me of Bobby Fisher with your obsession.     

And what was Bobby Fischer wrong about?  Absolutely nothing.

[realr0ach]

As for this guy's quote, he claims it's your own fault if your nation is flooded with the evil cult known as Jews, but I think that's horribly off-base.  If their evil cult had already taken over before you're even born, you don't have much options except try to get rid of them afterwards:

[Karartma1]

Roach, please, we got it. It's the Jews! Its' always been them. Can we please move along?
thanks

By the way, in today's world I believe the greatest store and value is my brain if I am able to keep it functioning. I can store whatever I want in it. Did anybody said passphrases?

[STT]

Bobby Fishers mother was Jewish (also likely his father) and so was he, that was the point I was making.  The problems he attributed as some kind of conspiracy was just a poor way of dealing with his own internal conflicts.  I presume it was easier for him to shadow box with this mythical enemy then beat himself up over his own failings.  It doesnt take much to realise both entities were the same, himself.
He was a genius and he had massive flaws along with it



Heres a better quote, generally true and more applicable to bitcoin and modern forex market moves long term I think

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_J._Hanlon
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3635401/Bobby-Fischers-final-bizarre-act.html

[Robin,Hood]

Bitcoin still the most decentralized thing in crypto:

% of supply owned by the top 100 accounts, standouts:
- Bitcoin 19%
- Ethereum 35%
- Ripple 98%
- Bitcoin Cash 25%
- Stellar 95%
- IOTA 62%
- NEO 70%

Source: https://arewedecentralizedyet.com/

Gotta get rid of my Stellars for sure.

What about Litecoin? I would guess it is probably even less centralized...

Nope, for Litecoin, percentage of supply owned by the top 100 addresses = 45%.

Interesting... Who would have said...

Check it out:

https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-litecoin-addresses.html

EDIT: ...and the top player seems very much active: https://bitinfocharts.com/litecoin/address/LTU2cds4aSdXFip9sV4gXphnhxGQjgfjmg

One of the many reasons I like XMR: https://moneroblocks.info/richlist
Privacy, in general, is extremely undervalued.

...and what if that percentage is above 50% in the case of Monero? Litecoin's percentage came as a surprise, and I'd not be surprised if there's a hell lot of XMR owned by top 10 to 100 addresses.

Common sense tells that Monero is certainly not very well distributed because of the huge amount of coins generated in a relative short time.
https://i.imgur.com/S4qe7OY.png

[sirazimuth]

Roach, please, we got it. It's the Jews! Its' always been them. Can we please move along?
thanks

the only way that  demented nutcase will be cease endlessly repeating his perpetual nazi anti-jew, silver worshipping drivel in here
is if/when...
1. he eventually dies
2. bitcoin and/or this thread dies or
3. he gets banned .

my bet is on  option 1
so unless you ignore ...better get used to it....

[kurious]

...and what if that percentage is above 50% in the case of Monero? Litecoin's percentage came as a surprise, and I'd not be surprised if there's a hell lot of XMR owned by top 10 to 100 addresses.

We won't ever know who had, or has XMR.  But it's no issue for me, I lost all the ones I once had in an unfortunate boating accident.

The biggest problem about those boating accidents is that if you ever manage to recover them from the bottom of sea, the tax on it would be even more ridiculous than the accident itself. At least with Spanish tax rules..... donno if that's the case in other countries.

If you never manage to recover and convert them to (banking) fiat/registered assets (such as real estate, cars, etc) then everything is fine...

Hard to spend XMR directly (outside dark markets, where I understand it is appreciated, as Bitcoin once was)

BTC is a little easier, but still not a ubiquitously accepted method of paying for things. Try paying off your mortgage with it...

When I had Monero (before the unfortunate accident), I traded it into BTC, sent BTC to a reliable exchange and drew fiat out. Tax treatment, where I am domiciled is a little vague. I am hoping to just be taxed for capital gains (20% I can live with), but it's not certain if the authorities will say it's 'trade', and therefore income - which will take it to a 45% rate for me.

I won't know until after 2019, as I only started cashing out non-negligible amounts late last year, which will go on my tax filing for 2017-2018, due in after the turn of this year (and contestable until one year later).

I guess I will find out.  So far I have declared everything and been totally 'by the book', but if by chance I found those Monero on the sea bed and I knew I was going to lose almost half, I might well change my country of legal domicile or consider some other appropriate options. 

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[jbreher]

% of supply owned by the top 100 accounts, standouts:

Sooo.... what's the definition of 'account'?

[Neo_Coin]