Bitcoin Forum
April 18, 2024, 10:52:39 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 26.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Poll
Question: What happens first:
New ATH - 43 (69.4%)
<$60,000 - 19 (30.6%)
Total Voters: 62

Pages: « 1 ... 20268 20269 20270 20271 20272 20273 20274 20275 20276 20277 20278 20279 20280 20281 20282 20283 20284 20285 20286 20287 20288 20289 20290 20291 20292 20293 20294 20295 20296 20297 20298 20299 20300 20301 20302 20303 20304 20305 20306 20307 20308 20309 20310 20311 20312 20313 20314 20315 20316 20317 [20318] 20319 20320 20321 20322 20323 20324 20325 20326 20327 20328 20329 20330 20331 20332 20333 20334 20335 20336 20337 20338 20339 20340 20341 20342 20343 20344 20345 20346 20347 20348 20349 20350 20351 20352 20353 20354 20355 20356 20357 20358 20359 20360 20361 20362 20363 20364 20365 20366 20367 20368 ... 33276 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26363818 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (174 posts by 3 users with 9 merit deleted.)
marky89
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 756
Merit: 502

CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 07:34:24 PM

Seems like we could get a legit bounce from the look of the hourly. Coincides with the 50MA tap on the daily too. All in all, the higher time frames look like shit though. I'm preparing for a hibernation period.
1713480759
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1713480759

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1713480759
Reply with quote  #2

1713480759
Report to moderator
"Bitcoin: mining our own business since 2009" -- Pieter Wuille
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
RewFrew
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 574
Merit: 140


Chainjoes.com


View Profile WWW
May 12, 2018, 07:58:38 PM
Last edit: May 12, 2018, 09:01:02 PM by RewFrew

The 8250$ support is holding for now.

Hope no new fud happends the next weeks.

Some big altcoins are moving strongly the last 24, thats means the big whales already bought bitcoin yesterday at the button and then bought some big altcoins for another Altcoins rally.
Torque
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3542
Merit: 5039



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 09:35:39 PM


With a +7-10% buy premium, people will never use them though.
coinlocket$
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2352
Merit: 1512


#1 VIP Crypto Casino


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 09:39:52 PM




 Normal life for traders
4rt3m
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 770
Merit: 146



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 09:40:00 PM

Did anyone mention that Huawei ($6B Chinese mobile phone company) announced that they will add Bitcoin wallet to their marketplace? It's a big news for Chinese market and future mass-adoption.

https://usethebitcoin.com/giant-mobile-company-huawei-releases-bitcoin-wallet-in-app-store/

With a +7-10% buy premium, people will never use them though.

Good point, but how it's number increase?
jojo69
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3150
Merit: 4303


diamond-handed zealot


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 09:41:13 PM


With a +7-10% buy premium, people will never use them though.

actually, I think I'm going to drive over and dump a C note in one just to check it out
JayJuanGee
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3696
Merit: 10129


Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 09:45:40 PM

Ever since the Death Cross late March bitcoin price has found resistance at the daily 200 MA. We are in a bear market until price breaks through the 200 MA. Also testing the 50 MA right now: if 50 MA does not hold next resistance range is $6400 - $7300.



Best case scenario IMO is we are range bound between the 50 and 200 MA until one or the other is breached.

I appreciate your discussion of recent resistance at the 200 day MA, which in accordance with your chart, seems to have been tested and held on three occasions since late March.  And in the past 24 hours support at the 50 day MA seems to have been tested and so far held.

It seems likely that you are concluding that BTC is in a bear market from other data - besides those shorter-term points that have been broken through several times in the past 4 months - and yes, I see that you seem to be focusing a bit more on the period of time once the 50 day MA moved below the 200 day MA.

Even though I frequently witness what I perceive to be these kinds of pre-mature (and perhaps too much TA reliant) assessments that BTC is in a bear market, I am NOT sure how anyone can really be confidently arriving at such conclusions because the actual conclusion of a "bear market" would be more than a couple of quarters of downward BTC price performance besides just trying to pigeon-hole bitcoin into traditional assessments or implying that BTC is the same as other assets and even downplaying fundamentals that show BTC to have unique paradigm shifting components. 

Furthermore, it took BTC more than 2 years to go from its $250-ish foundation to its $19,666 price peak, so it would also seem likely that we should be considering some longer term trends, rather than seemingly prematurely pigeon-holing BTC's current overall market posture as "bear market."

In other words, how come I get a bit perturbed by seemingly smart peeps wanting to prematurely conclude and define BTC as a bear market, when the data seems to not be in yet. 

Sure as fuck, down the road, these "bear market" labels could end up being correct, and sure as fuck, individually, you are able to make market bets in accordance with your tentative (and seemingly premature) assessments about a BTC being in the beginning of a bear market, but the actual BTC market performance is not seeming to meet a reasonable bear market definition merely because there has been a bit more than 4 month downward price performance, and merely because the 50 day MA has moved below the 200 day MA - from a bit of a steamy top up to $19,666. 

At the risk of repeating my selfie, I just don't buy these kinds of seemly premature bear market conclusions, unless perhaps we witness another 3-4 months of such downward BTC price performance, then I might, perhaps, begin to grant such possible assessments. 

In other words, a relatively long downward BTC price correction (of a bit over 4 months) does not seem to take BTC out of a bull market and put it in a bear market... even though it may be a bit much to conclude that BTC remains in a bull market, too, and to me, it seems almost equally wishful and premature to be coming to such bear market conclusion as it would be to be concluding bull market from looking at longer trends - in other words, the jury remains out, even if you want to make your BTC price bets towards downward price movements and you somehow believe that overall down is more likely than up, which I guess would be part of any trader's practical application of coming to such "bear market" conclusion, which seems like it has a decent chance of getting rekt to place too high percentages on such downwards presumptions.. when the odds of the bottom being in might be close to as likely as betting on continued downwards?

 Another possible assessment of current BTC market dynamics, would be to don't do (or conclude) anything until there is a decently sized break one way or another, which might require a considerable amount of movement passed either the 50 day MA on the downside or the 200 day MA on the upside.
Ludwig Von
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 854
Merit: 307



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 09:48:46 PM



Toxic, I love your chart efforts. They are (ch)Art. Altough mostly your optimism in the work seems a bit neglected by honeyBadger 's behaviour.  Wink
TERA2
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 266
Merit: 222


Deb Rah Von Doom


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 10:00:07 PM




 Normal life for traders
Bear with me here...
Bear here?
Bare?
Bear?
BEAR?
BEAR!
BEAR!
BEAR!

BEAR!
BEAR!
BEAR!
This is madness! I cant take it anymore.
BULL SHIT!
Bull Shit?
Bull?
BULL?
BULL!
BULL!
BULL!
..with me here...
Lontonbit
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 420
Merit: 108



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 10:01:16 PM



Toxic, I love your chart efforts. They are (ch)Art. Altough mostly your optimism in the work seems a bit neglected by honeyBadger 's behaviour.  Wink
Stevie wonder can see the chart better than you.
El duderino_
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2492
Merit: 11959


BTC + Crossfit, living life.


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 10:33:21 PM

They say sell in May and go away. I bought (quite a lot) and I am here to stay: always the sum I am not afraid to lose. We will see how this unfolds: still bullish

home early , quite a good dinner lots of fine drinks vodka martini, good wines.... but didn't make it to late so after few hours not watching the price and didn't talk about crypto .... i can only say ,good to see the price is still +8K allways hate to see the first number drop lower, so quickly go back to vegeta and than attack the 5-digit numbers  Roll Eyes
saturday drunk merit go's tho here cause i just read BOUGHT/STAY/BULLISH  what more does a hodler wanna read keep up buying and hodling  Grin
RoomBot
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2268
Merit: 1123



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 10:37:16 PM

Australia banning cash payments over 10k now.
First take their guns then make a move for the cash. http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/federal-budget/cash-payments-over-10000-to-be-banned-as-government-targets-50-billion-black-economy/news-story/9df0646ba704bd170df5b3996d512f52

Sure, "Black Market", you mean money which you currently don't oversee and have control of?

Are the people just gonna roll over on this?  I suspect some will be looking at BTC as a possible alternative to fight the NWO.

Lol, glad I checked on the site, I was like "shit it's really happening". Lol

Fake fucking news site...

As soon as I read this I was WAT??, no fucking way!

Quote
In its response, the government said it agreed with or supported the majority of the recommendations, including potentially requiring wages to be paid into bank accounts, effectively outlawing cash-in-hand payments. Workers in the “gig economy” will also face greater scrutiny.

Really, Its a fake news site? How did you verify this or how could I.  I saw the news somewhere else initially and I searched for it.  I think news.com.au looks legit and is reporting on facts.  Here's another article on it.  http://bitcoinist.com/australia-criminalizes-cash-10k-funding-blockchain-research/

Bitcoinist regurgitating someone else's post proves nothing.  Stay vigilant.  Editor-in-Chief Scott Fargo (classy guy on the left in photo) is notorious co-conspirator with Josh Garza (R in photo) & promoted his fraudulent Paycoin on CNN:


Ludwig Von
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 854
Merit: 307



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 10:40:59 PM

They say sell in May and go away. I bought (quite a lot) and I am here to stay: always the sum I am not afraid to lose. We will see how this unfolds: still bullish

home early , quite a good dinner lots of fine drinks vodka martini, good wines.... but didn't make it to late so after few hours not watching the price and didn't talk about crypto .... i can only say ,good to see the price is still +8K allways hate to see the first number drop lower, so quickly go back to vegeta and than attack the 5-digit numbers  Roll Eyes
saturday drunk merit go's tho here cause i just read BOUGHT/STAY/BULLISH  what more does a hodler wanna read keep up buying and hodling  Grin
Michel, Ur dlunk ! :-)
Ludwig Von
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 854
Merit: 307



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 10:42:02 PM



Toxic, I love your chart efforts. They are (ch)Art. Altough mostly your optimism in the work seems a bit neglected by honeyBadger 's behaviour.  Wink
Stevie wonder can see the chart better than you.

That is for sure !
RoomBot
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2268
Merit: 1123



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 10:51:54 PM

this moment When Where Going down ..... i can only be happy its saturday , the more of a good excuse i have to get totaly drunk @dinner This evening  Grin So still not on my last Smerit thanks to bob  Roll Eyes but Shore AS hell if i’m wasted This evening i must send a drunk merit,
Actually its pity cause i thought we were crossing 10k by now but ok its Just hodl and wait a little longer, Just Another wave to ride and Another dip to buy So to all the hodlers HODL and all the trolls(roach) take one of youre moments to spread Some FUD we love iT knowing you Just sitting on the side lines NOCoining  Roll Eyes
And let us see how critical the next 24h gonna be ...... let the fools sell BTC to stronger HODLhands Common !

With all the brave souls out of the closet here on WO, it's about time for me to come out today too, as a Small Player.  Tiny.

So be happy for the Proletariat like me who can afford to buy some of this lovely dip today.

I for one, am psyched.

Long-term HODLers have nothing to fret about.  Buy the dip already!



Toxic2040
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1792
Merit: 4141



View Profile
May 12, 2018, 11:08:01 PM

Toxic, I love your chart efforts. They are (ch)Art. Altough mostly your optimism in the work seems a bit neglected by honeyBadger 's behaviour.  Wink
Stevie wonder can see the chart better than you.
That is for sure !


I dont see why attempts at TA have to be boring. Grin
jojo69
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3150
Merit: 4303


diamond-handed zealot


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 11:24:00 PM
Merited by explorer (1)

JayJuanGee
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3696
Merit: 10129


Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 11:28:17 PM

They say sell in May and go away. I bought (quite a lot) and I am here to stay: always the sum I am not afraid to lose. We will see how this unfolds: still bullish
I panic-bought TFD at $8340 so I can sleep better this weekend. Not that it matters a year from now.


Are you suggesting that a year from now, BTC prices are going to be at such a level (higher than now) that the difference between buying at $8,340 and buying at $9,340 is not going to make a very BIG difference? 

What kind of BTC price are you thinking?  Somewhere north of $20k?   

I personally am thinking that if we get another exponential BTC price rise before a year from now, then there are decent chances that testing of BTC price support would stay above $20k, but surely nothing in BTClandia has any kind of certainty... and I suppose, even a decently played out bullish price movement scenario that pulls bitcoin into the $100k price territory within a year or so, would have decent potentialities of returning to test price support areas below $20k.
JayJuanGee
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3696
Merit: 10129


Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 11:34:23 PM

Why are we still bleeding so badly? What's going on?

Re-quoting for ya:

When a legendary speaks like a coward...

...and BTW, the last time you spoke like that was on 6th February (seconds before the pump), so I'm taking your this comment as a signal of the next big pump. Smiley



hahahahaha

This guy/gal/bot, is just spouting out misleading nonsense to be asserting "bleeding" bullshit.  Is this a sign of shill desperation, as you seem to be suggesting, Raja?
Searing
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2898
Merit: 1464


Clueless!


View Profile
May 12, 2018, 11:36:39 PM

They say sell in May and go away. I bought (quite a lot) and I am here to stay: always the sum I am not afraid to lose. We will see how this unfolds: still bullish
I panic-bought TFD at $8340 so I can sleep better this weekend. Not that it matters a year from now.


Are you suggesting that a year from now, BTC prices are going to be at such a level (higher than now) that the difference between buying at $8,340 and buying at $9,340 is not going to make a very BIG difference? 

What kind of BTC price are you thinking?  Somewhere north of $20k?   

I personally am thinking that if we get another exponential BTC price rise before a year from now, then there are decent chances that testing of BTC price support would stay above $20k, but surely nothing in BTClandia has any kind of certainty... and I suppose, even a decently played out bullish price movement scenario that pulls bitcoin into the $100k price territory within a year or so, would have decent potentialities of returning to test price support areas below $20k.


yep...I see it going sideways at best for till the end of the year...my view is that mt. gox has to wrap up the liquidation from the trustee's point of view (for them to get paid

and done with the liquidation) by the end of this year....is my guess ....thus 1.9 Billion BTC to USD in the next 8 months that 'pig' has to be digested by the Bitcoin Python

can it be done, don't know...but if it can be and the price goes sideways..that is my best case...at the way mt. gox trustee always panic sells on exchanges directly and kills his

own price point, by the mass of BTC he moves, and always selling on the low/drop in price (panic sells)...BTC IMHO could go as low as 3k IMHO...

NOW IF ...the mt. gox trustees sold outside of exchanges (most likely the folk would hold) and stated they are going to move so much coin in increments on a time frame

till the end of the year at best manner possible...then perhaps..it would not matter and the price could go up...but with the cluelessness or just plain spite these 'banker connected' lawyers

liquidating mt gox have taken...I sometimes wonder if they are not making  this a 'train wreck' just so when they go back to representing the Japanese banks they can show

they f*cked the BTC ecosystem as much as legally possible on this liquidation...

Pages: « 1 ... 20268 20269 20270 20271 20272 20273 20274 20275 20276 20277 20278 20279 20280 20281 20282 20283 20284 20285 20286 20287 20288 20289 20290 20291 20292 20293 20294 20295 20296 20297 20298 20299 20300 20301 20302 20303 20304 20305 20306 20307 20308 20309 20310 20311 20312 20313 20314 20315 20316 20317 [20318] 20319 20320 20321 20322 20323 20324 20325 20326 20327 20328 20329 20330 20331 20332 20333 20334 20335 20336 20337 20338 20339 20340 20341 20342 20343 20344 20345 20346 20347 20348 20349 20350 20351 20352 20353 20354 20355 20356 20357 20358 20359 20360 20361 20362 20363 20364 20365 20366 20367 20368 ... 33276 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!