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[vapourminer]

#random: Saw on /r/bitcoin. It reminded me of a certain someone...

yeah if roach comes back in another kife he aspires to be a dragon. a roach can dream, right?

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[El duderino_]

If price breaks 6.2k, get ready for 5k, then maybe 3k

No coiner ^^

as many especially the ones showing up when price is going down 

[El duderino_]

So we are sub 8k soon.

... how can it ever increase again?

[Robin,Hood]

How much effect on the market will this Corda thing have, a distributed ledger database (sames as Ripple)
It is not invest able and want be found on Coinmarketcap. Made by the Banks for the Banks not public viewable, trade-able.

Corda is a distributed ledger platform designed to record, manage and automate legal agreements between business partners. Designed by (and for) the world's largest financial institutions yet with applications in multiple industries. It offers a unique response to the privacy and scalability challenges facing decentralised applications.

R3 is an enterprise software firm working with a network of over 200 banks, financial institutions, regulators, trade associations, professional services firms and technology companies to develop on Corda, our blockchain platform designed specifically for businesses

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https://www.r3.com/
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/hsbc-makes-worlds-first-trade-finance-transaction-using-blockchain.html

[Totscha]

How much effect on the market will this Corda thing have, a distributed ledger database (sames as Ripple)
It is not invest able and want be found on Coinmarketcap. Made by the Banks for the Banks not public viewable, trade-able.

Corda is a distributed ledger platform designed to record, manage and automate legal agreements between business partners. Designed by (and for) the world's largest financial institutions yet with applications in multiple industries. It offers a unique response to the privacy and scalability challenges facing decentralised applications.

R3 is an enterprise software firm working with a network of over 200 banks, financial institutions, regulators, trade associations, professional services firms and technology companies to develop on Corda, our blockchain platform designed specifically for businesses

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https://www.r3.com/
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/hsbc-makes-worlds-first-trade-finance-transaction-using-blockchain.html

It is irrelevant.

[vapourminer]

Mine is above 140; Where does that put me?

Autistic.

Does anyone really rate IQ as any type of measurement beyond the ability to pass IQ tests?

I did a proper one at 17-18 and outgunned Einstein.

What was Einstein's IQ, and what was yours at 17-18?

mine tested ~125 waaay back around highscool.

i then discovered drugs. way more fun. of course way more disruptive as to the directions i had picked in college (programming). dropped college, stayed with drugs. much fun, much stupidity, some broken bones and other misc injuries from "here, watch mah beer" type stuff.

oh well. its part of what made me who i am today, and if i had a do over id probably choose drugs again.

[Robin,Hood]

How much effect on the market will this Corda thing have, a distributed ledger database (sames as Ripple)
It is not invest able and want be found on Coinmarketcap. Made by the Banks for the Banks not public viewable, trade-able.

Corda is a distributed ledger platform designed to record, manage and automate legal agreements between business partners. Designed by (and for) the world's largest financial institutions yet with applications in multiple industries. It offers a unique response to the privacy and scalability challenges facing decentralised applications.

R3 is an enterprise software firm working with a network of over 200 banks, financial institutions, regulators, trade associations, professional services firms and technology companies to develop on Corda, our blockchain platform designed specifically for businesses

.

https://www.r3.com/
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/hsbc-makes-worlds-first-trade-finance-transaction-using-blockchain.html

It is irrelevant.

Hope so, dont know what to make of it.

[KrazyMonkey]

there is still no PC wallet which lets you easily import btc private keys to claim
all mayor fork coins like super btc , btc diamond, btc gold ?

[Elwar]

How much effect on the market will this Corda thing have, a distributed ledger database (sames as Ripple)
It is not invest able and want be found on Coinmarketcap. Made by the Banks for the Banks not public viewable, trade-able.

Corda is a distributed ledger platform designed to record, manage and automate legal agreements between business partners. Designed by (and for) the world's largest financial institutions yet with applications in multiple industries. It offers a unique response to the privacy and scalability challenges facing decentralised applications.

R3 is an enterprise software firm working with a network of over 200 banks, financial institutions, regulators, trade associations, professional services firms and technology companies to develop on Corda, our blockchain platform designed specifically for businesses

.

https://www.r3.com/
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/14/hsbc-makes-worlds-first-trade-finance-transaction-using-blockchain.html

It is irrelevant.

Hope so, dont know what to make of it.

There are literally 20,000 bank coins created a day. This one doesn't even rate in the top million.

[Robin,Hood]

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There are literally 20,000 bank coins created a day. This one doesn't even rate in the top million.

No, not that many exist with 200 plus banks using it.

There is a few interesting bits. They are desperate to call it a blockchain even so they only have a database with servers on different locations.
They operate in a strict private matter where only sender and receiver see details, so private coins is full steam ahead, if its good enough for them it is good enough for me to know who is sent bitcoins to. Bitcoin will have improved private features in times to come.
Its also acknowledgment of the way forward from current broken system.

You know i have a international payment pending since April 6, yes a month and a half. I have confirmation letter from my bank it was sent on 6th, can see it when i log in to online banking and numerous phone calls to bank confirmation that receiving bank has my money.
Receiving bank (Agricultural Bank of China) has to date not credited beneficiary account nor responded to any of the three messages sent from my bank to get in touch. Couple of days ago i did contact financial ombudsman, no reply so far. Meantime container gets hit with demurage penalties daily, how sic is that.
System is broken alright.
 

[Kylapoiss]

Many woulda-been, coulda-been Bitcoin millionaires become bitter, anti-Bitcoin zealots.

I got into the boat in 2013, but sold all my stash in 2015 because of reasons, would be a multi-millionaire now didn't get me bitter though, that's just life.

But back I am, hopefully smarter this time, started to rebuy in Nov 2017.

Yes, there are more "normal" peeps that attempt to learn from their mistakes and to develop better strategies. It can take a long time to move away from our tendencies to repeat our mistakes, and sometimes identify areas in which we can develop better plans and to place ourselves into a better position to prepare ourselves for luck. 

You know the saying that there is no such thing as pure luck because luck is largely a product of opportunity coming from preparation?

 I would not mind hearing some more of your details and plans on how you are expecting to go forward.  Hopefully, you understand that bitcoin remains the main place to emphasize your long term efforts, even while there remains ways to make short term profits from some of the alts.. perhaps?

I agree with your statements, especially with the luck one, blind luck rarely represents itself.

My plan is to accumulate bitcoin and other crypto and hodl them tight this time, no cashout plans at least inside the next 5 years. I actually was against the alts when I held bitcoin the last time, had them maybe 1-2% of my portfolio before cashing out, but there is some real money to be made there now and some of the alts have great teams and ideas aswell. The reason for cashing out was not fear of market, as I planned to hodl anyway, just had some trouble in real life and cashed out in smaller portions. I have my life and financials set up from a much better perspective now, so I think this time I don't have to go to my coins to get fiat.

I have been trading back and forth a bit since December and grown my wallet slowly too, had everything in bitcoin at some point, now the ratio is maybe 30-70 (BTC-alts), but I'm keeping an eye on the market constantly and when I see some coin is not worthy anymore, I'll convert it to bitcoin. Main idea is to accumulate bitcoin of course, trying just to grow it with the help of alts and so far it's working. Soon I start to transfer small amounts from trading to my cold storage and keep them there. So alts, for me, are to accumulate more bitcoin, though I have faith in a few projects (none of them is in top30@CMC). I'm buying around $1-1.5k worth of crypto monthly.

I'm getting most of my information relating bitcoin and its movements from this thread, have done so for the past 5 years (been inactive at some points), have been reading it without an user, though had one called "maakas" a couple of years back. And I hang around google relating bitcoin articles too. I know little of TA, but as it has shown itself wrong so many times relating bitcoin, I don't have much trust in it when making my choices. One thing is for sure, when kwukduck appears with the doomsday posts it's buy time!

Thanks for showing interest, I love this community!

[Torque]

[Speculatoross]

Did anyone here knew about this?

https://hackernoon.com/why-everyone-missed-the-most-important-invention-in-the-last-500-years-c90b0151c169

Pretty interesting article

Thanks for this, good read.

I found it really interesting article indeed, glad you liked it!

Today i'd like to submit this, let's see what you guys think about:) ....

Bitcoin doesn't exist
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2017/12/bitcoin-doesnt-exist-the-full-story/

[Speculatoross]

there is still no PC wallet which lets you easily import btc private keys to claim
all mayor fork coins like super btc , btc diamond, btc gold ?

Try have a look of my list of bitcoin fork worth claiming:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3413753.msg35703182#msg35703182

There's all the wallet and claim procedure you need!

[TERA2]

mine tested ~125 waaay back around highscool.

i then discovered drugs. way more fun. of course way more disruptive as to the directions i had picked in college (programming). dropped college, stayed with drugs. much fun, much stupidity, some broken bones and other misc injuries from "here, watch mah beer" type stuff.

oh well. its part of what made me who i am today, and if i had a do over id probably choose drugs again.

I have the opposite story. I flunked out of my first year of college even though I was stone cold sober, due to a lack of discipline and video games. Then years later I went back to school, tooks drugs almost every weekend, and got a 4.0

[Phil_S]

That chart is just a paste from 2014-2015, I annexed zeros to the numbers and changed 2015 to 2019. Bitcoin works in ~4 year periods all centered around the halvening.

Let's see... it's roughly similar. But it doesn't mean anything, in reality. Bitcoin rarely follows past patterns.

[Kylapoiss]

I am pretty much in the same boat as you. I also started to collect last year in May/June which was way before the $20k pump but obviously I didn't buy enough. I became serious after this February...

You should know however, being serious this time won't guarantee you another 10x pump. Well it will happen eventually but might not happen in the time frame you are (we are) expecting. Most people here expect another 10x in the next 2 years which might be too optimistic.

We may have to wait at least 5 years to get our lambo's and I am actually OK with this.

Oh I'm not after pumps, when I hit one with some of my alts then so be it and cheers for me, but that's not what I'm after. I'm in for the long run and have no cashout plans for the next 5 years at least. Maybe I'll get my lambo without the help from cryptos?

mine tested ~125 waaay back around highscool.

i then discovered drugs. way more fun. of course way more disruptive as to the directions i had picked in college (programming). dropped college, stayed with drugs. much fun, much stupidity, some broken bones and other misc injuries from "here, watch mah beer" type stuff.

oh well. its part of what made me who i am today, and if i had a do over id probably choose drugs again.

Same here, scored 126, took the "drug-way" and it sure has been a wild run. Would still make the same choice.

[buyandhold]

Did anyone here knew about this?

https://hackernoon.com/why-everyone-missed-the-most-important-invention-in-the-last-500-years-c90b0151c169

Pretty interesting article

Thanks for this, good read.

I found it really interesting article indeed, glad you liked it!

Today i'd like to submit this, let's see what you guys think about:) ....

Bitcoin doesn't exist
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2017/12/bitcoin-doesnt-exist-the-full-story/

The first essay was shared pretty widely at the time and is overblown - nobody who counts (geddit?) missed the implications of triple-entry at the time.
But goodness, the second one is good stuff. On the basics, it is an excellent primer. There's some howlers (calling all the early unmoved coins Satoshi's, stating there's 22m coins max) and he's not so good on the future implications of bitcoin, some macro details, history of econ. Still a lot better than most. It really deserves a proper review.
Many thanks for sharing.

[RayX12]

I got a six pack of beer...and it's titty squeezing time

Zappa, "Titties and Beer"!

"man, you can't fool me...you ain't that bad...
I mean you shoulda seen some of the souls i had...
Why there was milhous nixon 'n agnew, too...
'n both of those suckers was worse 'n you..."

Ha ha... I remember those good-old college days.
Titties and Beer!
Rejoice yourselves bitcoiners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvepB7uYoAo
 

[Maicol792]

That chart is just a paste from 2014-2015, I annexed zeros to the numbers and changed 2015 to 2019. Bitcoin works in ~4 year periods all centered around the halvening.

Let's see... it's roughly similar. But it doesn't mean anything, in reality. Bitcoin rarely follows past patterns.

Thanks for graphic ... but I think the mainstream and the past value and dev of bitcoin can invalid poiection on the past charts ... and I think we have small time frame in crypto for take analysis with past data...