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Question: When will we see a new ATH?
2023 - 38 (25.9%)
2024 - 57 (38.8%)
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2026 - 3 (2%)
2027 - 2 (1.4%)
After 2027 - 3 (2%)
Never - 5 (3.4%)
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December 17, 2013, 02:58:03 AM
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Good thing about this is that now we can concentrate on promoting and earning BTC now. Trading becomes more and more difficult. First Mt. Gox and then BTCChina. What's the next?

What's wrong with BTCChina?

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December 17, 2013, 02:58:55 AM
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Would the damn Chinese just go and not let the door hit them in the ass on the way out?  

Yes please, can't wait for that.

really? is this how you say "thank you china"? if they hadn't panic bought a few weeks ago the price wouldn't even be above 300 right now

NO idiot, thats your opinion... and there is no fact backing it up.

China is notorious for market manipulation. Go live there and see stocks market for yourself.

The whole largest volume exchange is more likely to be rigged.
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December 17, 2013, 02:59:36 AM
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didn't Thailand ban Bitcoin a while a go?
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December 17, 2013, 02:59:53 AM
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Well ladies and gents, this flushing is going to tell us A LOT about the state of bitcoin and where the money has come and is coming from.  

We won't be able to see the full picture for months or at least weeks, but when we can see it, we will know much better about what kind of investors made up the rally in the East, which ones are long term and where future money can and can't come from there - AND maybe more importantly, we will know how much of the rally really came from the East and how much really came from the West.

And I suspect we will never have to worry about China "leading" the markets again. Which is A - O - K  with me.

I was with you up until the last sentence, Honey Badger, why the antipathy towards China?

I was never quite confident that China had any real long term future with bitcoin. And I would rather, in an ideal world, have bitcoin be driven by people in countries that have more freedoms, because from a PR standpoint it makes bitcoin appear more solid as well.

BS. Let China be China and stop crying. Lets see what happens. Bitcoin will win at the end OFC. Smiley
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December 17, 2013, 03:01:10 AM
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Well ladies and gents, this flushing is going to tell us A LOT about the state of bitcoin and where the money has come and is coming from.  

We won't be able to see the full picture for months or at least weeks, but when we can see it, we will know much better about what kind of investors made up the rally in the East, which ones are long term and where future money can and can't come from there - AND maybe more importantly, we will know how much of the rally really came from the East and how much really came from the West.

And I suspect we will never have to worry about China "leading" the markets again. Which is A - O - K  with me.

I was with you up until the last sentence, Honey Badger, why the antipathy towards China?

I was never quite confident that China had any real long term future with bitcoin. And I would rather, in an ideal world, have bitcoin be driven by people in countries that have more freedoms, because from a PR standpoint it makes bitcoin appear more solid as well.

+1

Some of these Westerners are just clueless of how controlling the CCCP is.


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December 17, 2013, 03:02:38 AM
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It may be interesting to guess why Chinese exchanges stop 0 trading fee policy.

1) grab some money before closing

2) requirement from the government

if 1, that's really bad sign. If 2, it is not so bad.

I don't think it was 2...far too precise, micro and descriptive a move for the Chinese govt.  I think it was introduced to take advantage of the sell-off they knew was coming with the announcement re. money-transfers and to take some heat out of the market.  I wouldn't interpret it as a sign of closing.

I don't think so. Bobby Lee has promised in public that the 0 trading fee is permanent. I don't think they will eat their words just for some trading fee, especially just after they got VC. It has to be something big happened forced them to change policy without a prior notice.
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December 17, 2013, 03:02:44 AM
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No.... they didnt "ban" Bitcoin....

Gee where did you get that from? Their banks just refused to deal with bitcoin related business.

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December 17, 2013, 03:03:14 AM
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how low will bitcoin go Sad((
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December 17, 2013, 03:03:47 AM
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how low will bitcoin go Sad((

good question!

time for a new poll....
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December 17, 2013, 03:04:51 AM
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Good thing about this is that now we can concentrate on promoting and earning BTC now. Trading becomes more and more difficult. First Mt. Gox and then BTCChina. What's the next?

What's wrong with BTCChina?

market has been trading on this all day.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=373667.0



So that's what is going on.

Thanks.
That thread was out of date. It has been confirmed 3rd party payment services cannot be involved in any BTC exchanges in China. BTCChina has to rely on the banks, and who knows how supportive banks could be.
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December 17, 2013, 03:05:26 AM
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I was never quite confident that China had any real long term future with bitcoin. And I would rather, in an ideal world, have bitcoin be driven by people in countries that have more freedoms, because from a PR standpoint it makes bitcoin appear more solid as well.

Fair enough but it could also be the driver for change in places like China...teh link someone posted above
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/whos-afraid-of-bitcoin-these-countries
is quite interesting because countries whihc are most 'liberal' (although I do hate these labels which have come to mean little) are treating BTC cautiously.  I think BTC has become a geo-political football and we should defer from supporting any of the 'teams'.
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December 17, 2013, 03:06:26 AM
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Seriously, who else already bought a lot of stuff (maybe only in his imagination) because he was so sure and was big in +?  Cheesy As I had made a + of $10k (wich is $0 now) I bought stuff for about 2000$. Meh whatever... We only live once...
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woo got the first vote. I say around 550 just below the other low we were at few days ago.
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Well ladies and gents, this flushing is going to tell us A LOT about the state of bitcoin and where the money has come and is coming from.  

We won't be able to see the full picture for months or at least weeks, but when we can see it, we will know much better about what kind of investors made up the rally in the East, which ones are long term and where future money can and can't come from there - AND maybe more importantly, we will know how much of the rally really came from the East and how much really came from the West.

And I suspect we will never have to worry about China "leading" the markets again. Which is A - O - K  with me.

I was with you up until the last sentence, Honey Badger, why the antipathy towards China?

I was never quite confident that China had any real long term future with bitcoin. And I would rather, in an ideal world, have bitcoin be driven by people in countries that have more freedoms, because from a PR standpoint it makes bitcoin appear more solid as well.
For BTC price to rise, you need capital. You know where the capital is.
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December 17, 2013, 03:08:55 AM
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Well ladies and gents, this flushing is going to tell us A LOT about the state of bitcoin and where the money has come and is coming from.  

We won't be able to see the full picture for months or at least weeks, but when we can see it, we will know much better about what kind of investors made up the rally in the East, which ones are long term and where future money can and can't come from there - AND maybe more importantly, we will know how much of the rally really came from the East and how much really came from the West.

And I suspect we will never have to worry about China "leading" the markets again. Which is A - O - K  with me.

I was with you up until the last sentence, Honey Badger, why the antipathy towards China?

I was never quite confident that China had any real long term future with bitcoin. And I would rather, in an ideal world, have bitcoin be driven by people in countries that have more freedoms, because from a PR standpoint it makes bitcoin appear more solid as well.
For BTC price to rise, you need capital. You know where the capital is.

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December 17, 2013, 03:09:01 AM
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Would the damn Chinese just go and not let the door hit them in the ass on the way out? 

Yes please, can't wait for that.

really? is this how you say "thank you china"? if they hadn't panic bought a few weeks ago the price wouldn't even be above 300 right now
^ this.
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Well ladies and gents, this flushing is going to tell us A LOT about the state of bitcoin and where the money has come and is coming from.  

We won't be able to see the full picture for months or at least weeks, but when we can see it, we will know much better about what kind of investors made up the rally in the East, which ones are long term and where future money can and can't come from there - AND maybe more importantly, we will know how much of the rally really came from the East and how much really came from the West.

And I suspect we will never have to worry about China "leading" the markets again. Which is A - O - K  with me.

I was with you up until the last sentence, Honey Badger, why the antipathy towards China?

I was never quite confident that China had any real long term future with bitcoin. And I would rather, in an ideal world, have bitcoin be driven by people in countries that have more freedoms, because from a PR standpoint it makes bitcoin appear more solid as well.

+1

Some of these Westerners are just clueless of how controlling the CCCP is.




Of course Bitcoin's for everyone but not them, they're not 'our kind of people' Wink

Wow, seriouscoin...you are still out to abuse people..."some of these Westerners"...what an arrogant and disrespectful thing to say.  You were dishing out abuse to Voodoo last night about the same thing.  FYI I used to live in China.  Welcome to my ignore list.
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December 17, 2013, 03:09:21 AM
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No.... they didnt "ban" Bitcoin....

Gee where did you get that from? Their banks just refused to deal with bitcoin related business.



BTC not illegal in Thailand, you just got trolled by the media... lol

Why someone is asking this everyday?  Shocked
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December 17, 2013, 03:09:43 AM
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Well ladies and gents, this flushing is going to tell us A LOT about the state of bitcoin and where the money has come and is coming from.  

We won't be able to see the full picture for months or at least weeks, but when we can see it, we will know much better about what kind of investors made up the rally in the East, which ones are long term and where future money can and can't come from there - AND maybe more importantly, we will know how much of the rally really came from the East and how much really came from the West.

And I suspect we will never have to worry about China "leading" the markets again. Which is A - O - K  with me.

I was with you up until the last sentence, Honey Badger, why the antipathy towards China?

I was never quite confident that China had any real long term future with bitcoin. And I would rather, in an ideal world, have bitcoin be driven by people in countries that have more freedoms, because from a PR standpoint it makes bitcoin appear more solid as well.
For BTC price to rise, you need capital. You know where the capital is.

dude this is 2013 going on 2014 "capital" is EVERYWHERE
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