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June 26, 2018, 12:36:35 PM

...."So that is where we are today.

    Bitcoin BTC has been taken over by the Bilderberg Group / Blockstream, deliberately crippled by small blocks & high fees, so people will have to use the Lightning Network (which is where Bilderberg Group / Blockstream will profit). This was pushed through via brutal censorship on the #1 & #2 Bitcoin communities (rBitcoin & BitcoinTalk.org, which are both controlled by Theymos)

    Bitcoin Cash BCH continues with bigger block size limits, low fees, and the "P2P electronic cash system" vision as laid out by Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin whitepaper."....


..."As Gavin & Mike were being pushed out, they tried to create the first "big block" fork of Bitcoin, called Bitcoin XT. The Blockstream / Bitcoin Core side hired a botnet operator to DDoS Bitcoin XT to death in its infancy."...


https://cryptoyum.com/discussions/how-bitcoin-btc-was-hijacked-and-why-bitcoin-cash-was-created/
Published on: May 24, 2018



Weird what you find


And where meant to believe backstabbing CIA snitch Gavin Andressen (Even has support of the;

CIA
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They drag Theymos name through the mud Angry


Current debate is between distributed (run away from this) lightning network or completely decentralized (another big blocker type attack)

Lightning Network (which is where Bilderberg Group / Blockstream will profit)




Now LN is the Illuminati?
Lol is this how far Bcash shilling can go?
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June 26, 2018, 01:01:53 PM


Nein. Challenged by the legacy klepto-institutions, banks, media and other zombies.

The value of the USD is neither here nor there.

What I just said. Still poor.

if sold all or most of youre BTC holdings .... you can consider yourself poor otherwise right on scheme  Roll Eyes

At this particular moment, if I sold all my BTC holdings, I would be at least 8x up (perhaps even a bit more) in terms of fiat value from my total amount invested over the past 4.5 years.  To me, the amount of appreciation feels pretty decent, relatively speaking, and especially compared to my other investments.  One of my best performing other investments over time is a 401k that is invested into a variety of different kinds of index funds for more than 20 years, and that fund is not even close to 8x the amount that I invested, even if I consider some of the matching funds of the employer as appreciation to me, the fund might be considered having a return around 3.5x, at best...
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June 26, 2018, 01:01:59 PM

Fun Graphic, I want to see what happens when the trains come.

https://bitcoinsubway.cash/

same old story...big ass train...nobody on it

I never understood these, they are meant to illustrate the increased throughput of BCH, but always end up driving home the fact that nobody is using it.  More embarrassing for BCH than anything.

INDEED... !!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh you just wait. On the next bull run, they've set up BCash perfectly for a false flag "flippening" (just like they did with ETH and all the other shitcoins in early 2017). They'll first pump Bitcoin, then drain trade it into BCash to simulate a flippening. All the new Bitcoiners will be freaking out. The forum trolls will be flaming everywhere. FUD will be flying everywhere. But it's just the whales trying to shake the n00bs out of their newly bought Bitcoin.

Of course the old skool Bitcoiners will have seen this old, tired movie before.  Wink

"If Bitcoin didn't have fake, propped up enemies and threats to constantly generate FUD, it would have no perceived threats at all. And for the whales that just won't do."
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June 26, 2018, 01:19:45 PM

...."So that is where we are today.

    Bitcoin BTC has been taken over by the Bilderberg Group / Blockstream, deliberately crippled by small blocks & high fees, so people will have to use the Lightning Network (which is where Bilderberg Group / Blockstream will profit). This was pushed through via brutal censorship on the #1 & #2 Bitcoin communities (rBitcoin & BitcoinTalk.org, which are both controlled by Theymos)

    Bitcoin Cash BCH continues with bigger block size limits, low fees, and the "P2P electronic cash system" vision as laid out by Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin whitepaper."....


..."As Gavin & Mike were being pushed out, they tried to create the first "big block" fork of Bitcoin, called Bitcoin XT. The Blockstream / Bitcoin Core side hired a botnet operator to DDoS Bitcoin XT to death in its infancy."...


https://cryptoyum.com/discussions/how-bitcoin-btc-was-hijacked-and-why-bitcoin-cash-was-created/
Published on: May 24, 2018



Weird what you find


And where meant to believe backstabbing CIA snitch Gavin Andressen (Even has support of the;

CIA
News
Network

in their media articles)


They drag Theymos name through the mud Angry


Current debate is between distributed (run away from this) lightning network or completely decentralized (another big blocker type attack)

Lightning Network (which is where Bilderberg Group / Blockstream will profit)




Now LN is the Illuminati?
Lol is this how far Bcash shilling can go?

See if there is a debate within the lightning network developers and community

1) Distributed or Indirect is the new word for centralization (Illumination Society, Bankers, Deep State)

2) If there is heated debate step 1 is true



hmmmmm...  it is true   - time to jump on board and kick "distributed lightning network' (Ruuuuuun!!!!, we a coming) to the curb


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See if there is a debate within the lightning network developers and community
1) Distributed or Indirect is the new word for centralization (Illumination Society, Bankers, Deep State)
2) If there is heated debate step 1 is true

I'm active in the lightning network developer community and this is the first of this "heated debate" nonsense I have heard.

The real LN community and developers are too busy working on improving the protocol, usability, and robustness - don't give a single flying fuck about these issues you speak of.

Stop making shit up, guy.


Do you by any chance propose that we instead switch to fact based FUD?

Blasphemy!
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June 26, 2018, 02:08:53 PM

Bcashies.
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See if there is a debate within the lightning network developers and community
1) Distributed or Indirect is the new word for centralization (Illumination Society, Bankers, Deep State)
2) If there is heated debate step 1 is true

I'm active in the lightning network developer community and this is the first of this "heated debate" nonsense I have heard.

The real LN community and developers are too busy working on improving the protocol, usability, and robustness - don't give a single flying fuck about these issues you speak of.

Stop making shit up, guy.


I agree there is no "heated debate"
misconception on my part,

why so critical?

 (happy to correct any inconsistencies)


sidechains are preferable to lightning anyways

if you cannot trust the blockchain there is no hope for bitcoin

(Why does bitcoin keep getting attacked? - because it truly is decentralized and tested)

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June 26, 2018, 03:17:10 PM

Bitcoin is not for faggy everyday payments, here where both bcash and lightning network failed.
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See if there is a debate within the lightning network developers and community
1) Distributed or Indirect is the new word for centralization (Illumination Society, Bankers, Deep State)
2) If there is heated debate step 1 is true

I'm active in the lightning network developer community and this is the first of this "heated debate" nonsense I have heard.

The real LN community and developers are too busy working on improving the protocol, usability, and robustness - don't give a single flying fuck about these issues you speak of.

Stop making shit up, guy.


I agree there is no "heated debate"
misconception on my part,

why so critical?

 (happy to correct any inconsistencies)


sidechains are preferable to lightning anyways

if you cannot trust the blockchain there is no hope for bitcoin

(Why does bitcoin keep getting attacked? - because it truly is decentralized and tested)


Sidechains in theory are great, but there is an unsolved problem of getting value out of them and back into BTC.
So at the moment they are almost useless.

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Sidechains in theory are great, but there is an unsolved problem of getting value out of them and back into BTC.
So at the moment they are almost useless.

Utterly preposterous. I can't even begin to rationalize that train of thought.

You get your value out of it by opening / closing channels, acquiring something you desire via micropayment, or becoming an efficient router.

I mean, am I surrounded by fucking BCash morons today ?

sidechains Bob. he said sidechains
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June 26, 2018, 04:37:05 PM

Isn't Liquid a working sidechain? Did I miss something important again? Should we rabble about this?
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June 26, 2018, 04:40:01 PM

the bcash and noob posts are increasing. as a bull I obviously see this as an omen for the next bull run. please post more bullshit to help boost the rocket!
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Sidechains in theory are great, but there is an unsolved problem of getting value out of them and back into BTC.
So at the moment they are almost useless.

Utterly preposterous. I can't even begin to rationalize that train of thought.

You get your value out of it by opening / closing channels, acquiring something you desire via micropayment, or becoming an efficient router.

I mean, am I surrounded by fucking BCash morons today ?


Lol, I'm a Lightning fan.... I'm talking about SIDECHAINS you fucking moron Smiley

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June 26, 2018, 04:41:58 PM

the bcash and noob posts are increasing. as a bull I obviously see this as an omen for the next bull run. please post more bullshit to help boost the rocket!

Core is blocking the stream with sinister intentions to destroy Satoshi's vision.

(That should be worth something.)
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https://hackernoon.com/what-are-sidechains-1c45ea2daf3
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Ok. Now what's a blockchain again?
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June 26, 2018, 04:50:49 PM

Ok. Now what's a blockchain again?

keep posting and we will reach 10k soon!
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June 26, 2018, 04:54:52 PM

Yeah, not sure why you all don't just put your money in traditional financial instruments and institutions. Not sure about this whole "cryptocurrency" thing. IDK. Just doesn't seem real.

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June 26, 2018, 04:59:20 PM

Sidechains in theory are great, but there is an unsolved problem of getting value out of them and back into BTC.
So at the moment they are almost useless.

Utterly preposterous. I can't even begin to rationalize that train of thought.

You get your value out of it by opening / closing channels, acquiring something you desire via micropayment, or becoming an efficient router.

I mean, am I surrounded by fucking BCash morons today ?


Lol, I'm a Lightning fan.... I'm talking about SIDECHAINS you fucking moron Smiley



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