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July 13, 2018, 03:14:59 PM
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And there we go; breaking yesterday's mempool high.

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.



Holy wow. When they ban someone for life they REALLY ban them. Every thing he ever posted and even posts that were a reply to him; vanished.


Yeah, that's at least the 4th time he's been banned.
Even if you don't care for him or his ideas, it's hard to argue that he's not a net benefit to this forum.

Yes, although his posts are long and give the "feeling" of being conspiracy theories, they are really well thought out. They also encouraged me to do more research on how Bitcoin actually works. Also, just because a theory being proposed appears to be outlandish, doesn't mean it is invalid. Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?
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Surely they want in on the pie themselves, though? Or are they the only honest bureaucrats on the planet?
Rules are made for bending and often blatant breaking.

I would've thought the first rule of bureaucracy was - cover your arse.

Second rule - choose the path of least resistance.

But I guess an SEC person will be a slightly more exotic breed.
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July 13, 2018, 03:24:10 PM

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

Although maybe a lot of people move their coins to an exchange just in case but don't really intend to buy or sell unless things start to get really crazy. They move them on, wait to see if it's going to be a worst or best case scenario, as soon as they see that it is neither, they move them back off.
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July 13, 2018, 03:26:18 PM

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

could also mean people bought bitcoin on exchanges and are moving them to private wallets now. or increased adaption. or just spam, who knows.
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July 13, 2018, 03:33:54 PM

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

could also mean people bought bitcoin on exchanges and are moving them to private wallets now. or increased adaption. or just spam, who knows.

No I don't think so. Spam maybe but the only good reason I can think of for a random burst of spam is to spoof people who are watching the mempool as an indicator. Possible, interested in what others think about the possibility of this. But if we remove spam from that list I don't think the other things can explain a random rapid surge in the mempool size very well.

Adoption is a gradual thing, I mean even if Trump him self came out tomorrow and said "I'm ordering the us treasury to buy bitcorns hand over fist!" All the investors who came running to sign up for exchanges wouldn't all be getting on at the same time. And they wouldn't all be trying to withdraw at the same time. Many would leave funds on the exchange for a while, some forever. Their withdraws would be staggered, it wouldn't show a big spike in the mempool size.

A sudden spike, I still think, is an indicator of panic. It could be FOMO panic or panic from crashing prices but it has to be some sort of panic. (or maybe spam if that is actually happening)



Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.
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July 13, 2018, 03:38:30 PM

Surely they want in on the pie themselves, though? Or are they the only honest bureaucrats on the planet?
Rules are made for bending and often blatant breaking.

I would've thought the first rule of bureaucracy was - cover your arse.

Second rule - choose the path of least resistance.

But I guess an SEC person will be a slightly more exotic breed.
No actually that does ring very true. They can get in on the action on the sidelines, and then after a bit of ahem delay like you also said, deny it.
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July 13, 2018, 03:43:33 PM

Did my comment the other day start all this mempool talk I have been seeing lately? I don't remember anyone replying to it so I thought it had no impact but I also don't remember people talking about the mempool so much before it so maybe it had more impact than I thought.

So far, it would appear increasing mempool size is a bullish indicator.

At least IMO, FWIW.

The way I see it is that it just tells whether people are moving their coins to an exchange. So what it really tells you is that the price is about to move. Look at other factors to figure out, if you assume that the price is about to move, which direction would it move.

could also mean people bought bitcoin on exchanges and are moving them to private wallets now. or increased adaption. or just spam, who knows.

No I don't think so. Spam maybe but the only good reason I can think of for a random burst of spam is to spoof people who are watching the mempool as an indicator. Possible, interested in what others think about the possibility of this. But if we remove spam from that list I don't think the other things can explain a random rapid surge in the mempool size very well.

Adoption is a gradual thing, I mean even if Trump him self came out tomorrow and said "I'm ordering the us treasury to buy bitcorns hand over fist!" All the investors who came running to sign up for exchanges wouldn't all be getting on at the same time. And they wouldn't all be trying to withdraw at the same time. Many would leave funds on the exchange for a while, some forever. Their withdraws would be staggered, it wouldn't show a big spike in the mempool size.

A sudden spike, I still think, is an indicator of panic. It could be FOMO panic or panic from crashing prices but it has to be some sort of panic. (or maybe spam if that is actually happening)



Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.

you are right, (FOMO) panic is also very likely. but there are no actual news which could cause such panic, we are sideways for weeks now.

I'm also interested in other possibilities for such an increase.
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July 13, 2018, 03:53:14 PM

Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.

Just because a theory put forward is the "least plausible" doesn't necessarily make it untrue. In any event, even if you look at the other theories explaining what happened on 9/11, they all seem pretty incredible to me, so my analogy still stands.
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Who would have thought that you could take down two skyscrapers with a bunch of box cutters?

Not me. I am of the opinion that the governments official conspiracy theory is one of the least plausible of the many conspiracy theories I have encountered regarding that event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Their story is actually rather comical when you lay it all out.

Let me think.  Who could there possibly be that exists who benefits overwhelmingly from 9/11....

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July 13, 2018, 04:16:54 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44825345
http://www.wfmz.com/news/live-rosenstein-makes-law-enforcement-announcement/767609021
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(((rosenstein)))

Another day of failed attempts by Jews to try and get their enemies - white Americans and White Russians - to fight and kill one another.  Better not make that propaganda too obvious Schlomo, because the white Americans and white Russians team up then come looking for you.
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July 13, 2018, 04:23:45 PM
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after a nice afternoon of cruising around the island on a vespa scooter and drinking a few drinks I was thinking how would my TA look like so I did my thinking and made an effort of drawing one but still looks the same like many .... same ending



also the other side of the table got me to distracted of making something better


we all know HODL-BTFD-MOON-PASSING MOON-NO UPSIDE ENDING.........



 
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https://dailystormer.name/jews-are-still-gloating-about-murdering-the-tsars-children/

The hebrew moneychangers dislike monarchy because monarchy usually represents an ethnocentric majority represented by one of their own, who generally doesn't allow foreign entities (jews) to just walk in and enslave his people with their scams.  This is one reason Jews were heavily involved in the French revolution.  As evidenced by history in places like Rome, the common man usually lived better under the Caesars than under the senate.  

A senate is just a decentralized tyranny/looters with no accountability to anyone and almost impossible to get rid of.  With only a single figurehead of the state (something like a constitutional monarchy), there is actual accountability because the people just kill the king if he gets out of control to solve their problems.  Getting rid of an entire corrupt house and senate takes a lot more effort, and you might have to wait until they cause the collapse of civilization itself with their self serving agenda and looting before it happens.
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July 13, 2018, 05:00:20 PM

What the fuck is wrong with forum..its a cesspit of shit posters and third world bounty whore posters. But when a glimmer of intelligent discussion comes from Anonymint aka Shelby Moore he gets deleted. I dont care what he did or who he pissed off. He is probably the last chance this forum holds any relevance into the next stage of crypto. Geeez wept. Whats wrong with you mods?


For the sake of the crypto community let the guy share discuss and argue his points. Ffs

Time to make a new forum don’t you think?

We need a forum that runs on a blockchain and nobody can delete anything. With decentralized moderation, meaning each of us separately can choose which mods we trust to filter content for each of us independent from each other.

It is ridiculous that we in crypto use a CORRUPT, PERMISSIONED, CENTRALIZED forum just like LN is intended to be.

It is so stupid to invest effort into what becomes a booty for CENTRALIZED, CORRUPT mods to steal.
 

I didn't like anunymint. His posts were too long (I'm sure not many were reading them actually, me included), he cursed core devs like a kid would do, he was (in my opinion) spreading FUD about segwit but somehow i still wanted him to be around. Grin

I liked his price forecasts at least. (I don't know much about it since I put him on my ignore list)

He was posting excessively and that's true, he was evading his ban and that's true too. Banning him was probably the right choice. But deleting everything including our responses... that's daym excessive. That's pretty hardcore. By hardcore I mean, 2nd world war, take no prisoners hardcore.

Still, your idea of decentralized forum will never work.

People will be abusing it to hell. What if CP lovers be the majority there? Hard/Centralized moderation is the only choice.
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July 13, 2018, 05:00:54 PM

I sold all the way up, Bro.  I was down to dust at the top. Bought some really cool night vision goggles on purse.io.  I can't really use them on the SeaDoo I bought before that. Or the convertible. or the other convertible. or the motorcycle. or the house. How u doin?

Lol, guy bragging about how he liquidated all his bitcoin for a bunch of depreciating assets to stroke his own ego.... to Bitcoin holders who are in it for the long term gains and possibly early retirement.

How about we won't be broke in 10 years. Like u, Bro?

I get a regular stream of income from my masternode. The amount varies depending on trading price, but I don't have to worry about market timing which admittedly I suck at.
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(((rosenstein)))

Another day of failed attempts by Jews to try and get their enemies - white Americans and White Russians - to fight and kill one another.  Better not make that propaganda too obvious Schlomo, because the white Americans and white Russians team up then come looking for you.

you make a strategic mistake and I think you are a muslims who try to get his goal... let me explain, you are right they are a lot of people who want to rape the west... from usa to russia... a lot of them, think about it , all the sand niggas, forest niggas and the punks in south east asia (those no worry, there is a mighty dragon ready to eradic their entire breeeding strategy in a few minutes, usarmy ok or not, as if we cared of what those buffons are doing nowadays).

so then do you really think that Israel, would take the risks? anyway, as you say, shlomo and his friends knows the game they are in... those are the so called jewish supremacists, like barbara spectre lerner or many others across europe and america, but those be sure they are ready to put down israel too... they are in mindwrap no hope for them... open border yadada...


https://dailystormer.name/jews-are-still-gloating-about-murdering-the-tsars-children/

The hebrew moneychangers dislike monarchy because monarchy usually represents an ethnocentric majority represented by one of their own, who generally doesn't allow foreign entities (jews) to just walk in and enslave his people with their scams.  This is one reason Jews were heavily involved in the French revolution.  As evidenced by history in places like Rome, the common man usually lived better under the Caesars than under the senate.  

A senate is just a decentralized tyranny/looters with no accountability to anyone and almost impossible to get rid of.  With only a single figurehead of the state (something like a constitutional monarchy), there is actual accountability because the people just kill the king if he gets out of control to solve their problems.  Getting rid of an entire corrupt house and senate takes a lot more effort, and you might have to wait until they cause the collapse of civilization itself with their self serving agenda and looting before it happens.

again you put that on the jews, but the logic is right, just think to all the barons and others white niggas who want to take the throne... no need to put again an exclusive focus on the "jews"... and then most kings fall by their own stupidity... generally when they start to believe the priests class... divine rights etc bullshit, that military men of the king will quickly see through...

every sane men hate the son of the king... first their is the king, the one who leaded in a crucial battle, legitimacy from his ranks, then his son... why, shall we follow him? remember it's a dynasty gig...

it sad and fun, because you are right but can't distance yourself from your premise that it's the "jews", hebrews or what... but excuse me the guy growing orange in haifa doesn't care of your shit show or worldshit show...

anyway if you want to read about a crazy mother fucker who want war with the russian federation :  R. Nicholas Burns (born January 28, 1956) he seems ready to take an M16 and attack the wall of the kremlin... or will he just want american teens to go die there to rape and loot their sisters and girlfriends home? yes I do believe so. listen to him speak about ehtnostate... he want to diversify aka code word for white genocide and extinction... is he "jew", I don't think it will be doing shabat tonight...

anyway, this guy is a dead walking, from both side, the americans who understand that 8000 nukes from russia a few will pass (and this kind word for annihilation of conus) and the russian dead squads...

only violence... those bunrs 3 daughters... only way... there is no need to speak anyway... it's fucking russia, and putin is just the president of it... nothing to see that will not be killed...

they want to kill us in a russia usa war... it's clear... to move their mixlostrace I don't know the term new race they plan to rule from their high pulpit... anyway it's the old plan of the pyramid builders... same beliefs, same show...  
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July 13, 2018, 05:09:56 PM

I sold all the way up, Bro.  I was down to dust at the top. Bought some really cool night vision goggles on purse.io.  I can't really use them on the SeaDoo I bought before that. Or the convertible. or the other convertible. or the motorcycle. or the house. How u doin?

Lol, guy bragging about how he liquidated all his bitcoin for a bunch of depreciating assets to stroke his own ego.... to Bitcoin holders who are in it for the long term gains and possibly early retirement.

How about we won't be broke in 10 years. Like u, Bro?

And who brags about a SeaDoo and some night vision goggles? Trolls are all 12 year old boys now? Wtf does a grown man do with night vision goggles?

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I protect my huge stack of benjamins.

I prefer physical metals because benjamins are too easily destroyed by parasites:

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July 13, 2018, 05:19:31 PM

@roach...

and I think you are false, because what do the hardcorest want : jerusalem, temple mount...

and for the beyond, conquer the world and instaure the "king david 2.0 messahia" , not kidding, but would it be strategically wise for even the most radical to want to try to trick usa - russia to war while allowing china, once usa russia are gone to expand beyond all beliefs (at max 10 millions "jews" vs 1B+++++ chineses... it's a little madness... when you think that the intention of the king david 2.0 intent for him to rule china Cheesy.


you see... I don't understand your wraping goal, but at least once unpacked it's clear you get the situation, you just have a difficulty to find the guilty party : I help you think Nicholas Burns... look at him, see... and you will find a lot, I bet (not knowing), but it is cleraly the most brutal proponent of open nuclear exchanges between usa and russia.

I protect my huge stack of benjamins.

I prefer physical metals because benjamins are too easily destroyed by parasites:



I know... you try to keep your framing... read above... and let it go... visit israel for yourself and see... don't hide.
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