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[HairyMaclairy]

After watching Trump suck Putin’s dick today on global tv I don’t feel like harassing any conservatives today. I just feel sorry for y’all.  

Starts at 30 seconds:  https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1018888078134476802?s=21

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[Phil_S]

Remember "Wanted for Treason" poster from 1963?

"He is befriending our enemies (Russia etc)".



History goes full circle.

[HairyMaclairy]

Remember "Wanted for Treason" poster from 1963?

"He is befriending our enemies (Russia etc)".



History goes full circle.

Yes that pamphlet was from the John Birch society which was alt-right before it was cool to be alt-right.

So it’s the conservatives fucking up yet again.

[Phil_S]

Yes and now the left is crying "Treason" because "He is befriending our enemies (Russia etc)" instead of starting WW3, as any responsible President should.

[HairyMaclairy]

Well if peace means surrender, including siding with Putin against the findings of the Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, then yes. After all, there’s nothing wrong with cock sucking. I’m sure many find it quite tasty. I certainly hope my wife does.

[mymenace]

Why the continued psyop program, or are you really brainwashed


the gig is up



the central banks are being eliminated by the patriot banner and global partners

[Phil_S]

Well if peace means surrender

Hmm... no it doesn't. Peace means peace.

[Last of the V8s]

[somac.]

Well if peace means surrender, including siding with Putin against the findings of the Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, then yes. After all, there’s nothing wrong with cock sucking. I’m sure many find it quite tasty. I certainly hope my wife does.

Holy shit man, are you serious? USA and Russia are the 2 biggest nuclear powers in the world, if you don't want peace and nice relations between them you are fucking twisted. "Peace means surrender" wow, just wow.

USA intelligence is the thing you distrust the most of anything. Weapons of Mass destruction, bay of pigs, drug running, overthrowing of democratically elected governments, hunter of whistleblowers, and many more insanely horrible acts against world peace. But as soon as Trump indicates they may be wrong or not 100% honest, Trump is the bad guy. Blows my mind.

There's a BBC documentary called the "century of the self" I suggest you watch it in full.

Edit: You need to drop this right vs left conservative vs progressive bullshit. It will prevent you from seeing what is right and wrong.

[mymenace]

Well if peace means surrender, including siding with Putin against the findings of the Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, then yes. After all, there’s nothing wrong with cock sucking. I’m sure many find it quite tasty. I certainly hope my wife does.

Holy shit man, are you serious? USA and Russia are the 2 biggest nuclear powers in the world, if you don't want peace and nice relations between them you are fucking twisted. "Peace means surrender" wow, just wow.

USA intelligence is the thing you distrust the most of anything. Weapons of Mass destruction, bay of pigs, drug running, overthrowing of democratically elected governments, hunter of whistleblowers, and many more insanely horrible acts against world peace. But as soon as Trump indicates they may be wrong or not 100% honest, Trump is the bad guy. Blows my mind.

There's a BBC documentary called the "century of the self" I suggest you watch it in full.

Edit: You need to drop this right vs left conservative vs progressive bullshit. It will prevent you from seeing what is right and wrong.

gonna be weird when people wake up and see it was never black or white, red or blue,

it is about being transparent or corrupt, centralized or decentralized and it works every time

[somac.]

gonna be weird when people wake up and see it was never black or white, red or blue,

it is about being transparent or corrupt, centralized or decentralized and it works every time

People are not going to wake up when they are still willing to be told what is right and wrong by other people rather than thinking for themselves. This is why I mentioned that particular documentary, because it delves into that, which Hairy could benefit from listening to.

[Hueristic]

As times change, your methods may need to change, too.

  I think we ate at the same restaurant today!

HAH, that was my first thought as well!

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WoooWee.

Remember "Wanted for Treason" poster from 1963?

"He is befriending our enemies (Russia etc)".



History goes full circle.

Yes that pamphlet was from the John Birch society which was alt-right before it was cool to be alt-right.

So it’s the conservatives fucking up yet again.

I remember when work blocked that site in the 90's, I had just gone to check it out and the next day it was blocked (tagged as hate speech). Lol

I didn't see any hate speech om there though, I used a proxy and searched for hate speech but still couldn't find any. but they had some views I didn't agree with so I didn't stick around.

Well if peace means surrender, including siding with Putin against the findings of the Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee, then yes. After all, there’s nothing wrong with cock sucking. I’m sure many find it quite tasty. I certainly hope my wife does.

Holy shit man, are you serious? USA and Russia are the 2 biggest nuclear powers in the world, if you don't want peace and nice relations between them you are fucking twisted. "Peace means surrender" wow, just wow.

USA intelligence is the thing you distrust the most of anything. Weapons of Mass destruction, bay of pigs, drug running, overthrowing of democratically elected governments, hunter of whistleblowers, and many more insanely horrible acts against world peace. But as soon as Trump indicates they may be wrong or not 100% honest, Trump is the bad guy. Blows my mind.

There's a BBC documentary called the "century of the self" I suggest you watch it in full.

Edit: You need to drop this right vs left conservative vs progressive bullshit. It will prevent you from seeing what is right and wrong.

Stupid ass shade of grey movie, I had to make this meme as it spams all that movies images.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsDjpKr2Mk  <<<---- Love this movie.

[HairyMaclairy]

gonna be weird when people wake up and see it was never black or white, red or blue,

it is about being transparent or corrupt, centralized or decentralized and it works every time

People are not going to wake up when they are still willing to be told what is right and wrong by other people rather than thinking for themselves. This is why I mentioned that particular documentary, because it delves into that, which Hairy could benefit from listening to.

I’ll genuinely try to watch it. 

[somac.]

gonna be weird when people wake up and see it was never black or white, red or blue,

it is about being transparent or corrupt, centralized or decentralized and it works every time

People are not going to wake up when they are still willing to be told what is right and wrong by other people rather than thinking for themselves. This is why I mentioned that particular documentary, because it delves into that, which Hairy could benefit from listening to.

I’ll genuinely try to watch it.  

That's good, I think you'll like it. It's 4 parts, so set aside almost 4 hours all up. It is basically about the history of PR and marketing spanning corporations but also politics. In the first episode there is a bit talking about getting women to smoke, that's where it starts getting interesting.

And of course it is on youtube.

[Last of the V8s]

Wait what? Hairy, are you actually a socialist? I thought it was just an act all this time.
What business do you have on a bitcoin forum?

[Syke]

USA intelligence is the thing you distrust the most of anything.

No, I distrust Putin more than the USA intelligence. Just move the White House to Moscow already.

[kurious]

Sweet. Merited.

[bitserve]

Looking forward to some quality Schnorr FUD from Jbear and crew.  

I don't know why you'd think that. I don't believe I have previously espoused an opinion on Schnorr sigs.

You basically said Schnorr signatures would do nothing to alleviate the scaling issue. That would qualify as an opinion.

Hmm. I guess you know more about my past postings than do I. Link?

Schnorr can obviously reduce the size of txs that have multiple elements. I wouldn't say that is 'nothing'. If this be shown to be a reversal of a previously held opinion, then so be it.

Of course, my final opinion would be driven by an analysis of not merely the benefits of Schnorr, but also its costs.

edit: Oh - I see you've added the link. Thank you. I shall quote:

Currently it would take over 30 years to send each person on earth a single Bitcoin transaction. Think about that.

Lightning does nothing to alleviate that.
Segwit does nothing to alleviate that.
Schnorr sigs does nothing to alleviate that.

True enough. If you wish to send every person on earth a single Bitcoin tx (e.g., perhaps to open an LN channel), it will take on the order of three decades. And Schnorr indeed does nothing to alleviate that. It is a true statement, and it is not identical to "Schnorr signatures would do nothing to alleviate the scaling issue".

Your assertion is shown to be false.

After re-reading your post I stand corrected on my interpretation and agree you were referring to a very extreme theoretical scenario where all the block space is used exclusively for opening channels for every person on earth.

I am glad to hear you agree that Schnorr signatures could have some impact on scaling improvement depending on circumstances.

Oh Fuck me, Bitserve.   You are much more gentlemanly than me or even the member that has such a username....  

I understand that you were probably being a bit sarcastic, but think about a lot of these fucking troll nutjobs and bitcoin doomsdayers, they often take a scenario that has less than a 1% chance of occurring, and impliedly place it at much greater odds - and furthermore they presume that the development is kind of in a stasis and the evolution will occur in the coming days without tit and tat developments along the way to pretty much negate their pie in the sky supposed scenario from playing out.

Well, yes, maybe a bit sarcastic but, at the same time, it is *logically true* that my *literal* assertion proved "false" as it was not identical to what he said.

I could have started arguing over the subtleties such as even in that ridiculously extreme theoretical scenario Schnorr sigs would in fact "alleviate" (reduce) the time needed... but then he would have replied that it wouldn't because he already was considering ONLY single input tx's... and so on....

So... what would be the point of arguing when jbreher already conceded that Schnorr signatures do "obviously reduce the size of txs that have multiple elements"?

Sometimes enough is enough

[HairyMaclairy]

Wait what? Hairy, are you actually a socialist? I thought it was just an act all this time.
What business do you have on a bitcoin forum?

No I’m a leftie.  Which means I want to disrupt the banks and break up the cozy corporatist monopolies and bust big pharma and big healthcare. We can start by dangerously giving free healthcare to poor people. Libertarians beware ! If poor people starting voting they might vote your sorry Rand Paul-Putin apologist ass out of office. 

[ccminer.net]

what is going on?
who is buying right now, and why?
For ETF, for the Koreans?