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Question: Oct. 16 Closing Price:
<$5,000 - 18 (12.5%)
$5000-$5,500 - 7 (4.9%)
$5,500-$6,000 - 7 (4.9%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 23 (16%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 34 (23.6%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 18 (12.5%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 9 (6.3%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 4 (2.8%)
>$8,500 - 24 (16.7%)
Total Voters: 144

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September 12, 2018, 08:13:05 PM

Slides and ramps. Barts with lower lows. Grind your teeth, gentlemen, and hold tight.

Note: I have trouble spelling "hold", in all contexts. I'm afraid I'll give away a big clue to some keen observer one fine day.

It will be a trick question on an IRS form one day. Smiley


Beauty!

And I say the above watching my litecoin holdings (from repairs) going into the cum dumpster..... Fortunately I moved some into bitcoin, the rest shall burn......

Chinese been P&D'ing that shit forever why would you get into that shitshow? That was the most obvious pumped bubble eva.

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If you want a new hobby come short ETH on light leverage with tight stops.  It’s very satisfying and healthier than drinking all day. 

Hah, I was doing that last year! It was a little nerve racking then. Cheesy
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September 12, 2018, 08:29:42 PM

@vroom, good catch pointing out the image I published already circulated in this topic. I just deleted the message

don't worry, I also reposted this image and many others.
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September 12, 2018, 08:39:36 PM

Mmmm pump  Roll Eyes quickly to the movies the ONE place Where i never look @ BTC and prices or WO  Roll Eyes
And Thats rare thing for me  Grin

You also check every second. I'm not the only one ...  Grin

Yeah i always look ..... but its not gonna change my mind or actions..... i Will hodl
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September 12, 2018, 08:40:17 PM

Who shorted the market?
Why did the government allow this to happen? - LOL
The last phase of the cycle right? Look what can happen in just a years time!
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September 12, 2018, 08:40:54 PM

@vroom, good catch pointing out the image I published already circulated in this topic. I just deleted the message

don't worry, I also reposted this image and many others.

Haha Yeah don’t mind to much ..... i take WO as social media sometimes....  Roll Eyes
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September 12, 2018, 08:46:28 PM

When I had first come to crypto in early 2017 I participated in the ETH buzz along with other coin pumps. It was views such as yours, JJG's, and many others here that encouraged me to see them for what they were and eventually led me entirely away from the shitcoin buzz never to look back.  Feeling rather lucky for that education today. Thanks a lot! 

Glad I could help. I too at one point thought that having another coin/blockchain with a differing algo than Bitcoin's could be beneficial.

But then I started to realize that at it's core, all people fundamentally care about is a cryptocurrency's ability to be :

1. Secure and scalable
2. Open source, decentralized mining and voluntary core devs
2. Be scarce and deflationary
3. Store of Value
4. Permissionless transfer of value
5. Exchange for fiat (if necessary), high liquidity
6. Popular with merchants and exchanges
7. Buy goods and services with it

That's it. You can distill 99.99% of peoples wishes for a crypto into that simple, straightforward list. Any other usefulness beyond that list is inconsequential and wouldn't be missed in the world, at all. Anyone that says otherwise is being disingenuous and head-in-the-clouds.

So seen through that lense, is there any real NEED for any crypto other than Bitcoin?

The answer is a resounding "NO".



Those are great core values and I'd like to add a couple I find reassuring.
8. Politically neutral money
9. Monetary system based upon savings rather than debt
 
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September 12, 2018, 08:48:11 PM

Nice read on the current state of the SEC commissioners:

The Elad Effect: How the SEC’s New Commissioner Changes Things for Bitcoin ETFs
https://medium.com/@JohnGaltBPM/the-elad-effect-how-the-secs-new-commissioner-changes-things-for-bitcoin-etfs-f4bb29e95bd6


Interesting read, pretty decently argued, too. Thanks.

I am not sure the ETF is the holy grail, but it certainly will change the game.  Short term, this will be positive and probably flip the bear market sentiment into bullish.  Long term, it will possibly mean wall street has Bitcoin inside the tent.   

If it ends this bull market cycle earlier, I have to look forward to it - who wants another two years of this dull grind?

But what 'maturity' will mean?  Well, we may rue what we wished for....
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September 12, 2018, 08:56:29 PM

When I had first come to crypto in early 2017 I participated in the ETH buzz along with other coin pumps. It was views such as yours, JJG's, and many others here that encouraged me to see them for what they were and eventually led me entirely away from the shitcoin buzz never to look back.  Feeling rather lucky for that education today. Thanks a lot! 

Glad I could help. I too at one point thought that having another coin/blockchain with a differing algo than Bitcoin's could be beneficial.

But then I started to realize that at it's core, all people fundamentally care about is a cryptocurrency's ability to be :

1. Secure and scalable
2. Open source, decentralized mining and voluntary core devs
2. Be scarce and deflationary
3. Store of Value
4. Permissionless transfer of value
5. Exchange for fiat (if necessary), high liquidity
6. Popular with merchants and exchanges
7. Buy goods and services with it

That's it. You can distill 99.99% of peoples wishes for a crypto into that simple, straightforward list. Any other usefulness beyond that list is inconsequential and wouldn't be missed in the world, at all. Anyone that says otherwise is being disingenuous and head-in-the-clouds.

So seen through that lense, is there any real NEED for any crypto other than Bitcoin?

The answer is a resounding "NO".



Those are great core values and I'd like to add a couple I find reassuring.
8. Politically neutral money
9. Monetary system based upon savings rather than debt
 

All good and undeniable points.  I would add that 'privacy' has value, too - even if only to ensure true fungibility.   I don't want 'tainted' coins to be an issue - and it's obvious they could be.  What is traceable is 'bannable'.  BTC may incorporate this down the line, but right now a coin that is private (untraceable) by default has a use-case.
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September 12, 2018, 09:13:42 PM

But who is Arthur Hayes? Not so many persons know who is it exactly.




Vitalik vs. Arthur professional wrestling match when? Smiley hehe
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September 12, 2018, 09:19:01 PM

When we reach that point, will there be enough 'native' demand for Bitcoin to avoid a true bear market (like, going convincingly below 200 MA on the daily, just like the other bear markets)?


People that believe in TA are stupid. They deserve their fate of being milked and slaughtered.


Correct. There is nothing that can predict the future.


There is, my friend! But the only correct way of predicting the future is to create it using your own hands and brains


QFT



I did a google image search, and I found this article.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/11/investing/bitcoin-crash-victim/index.html

I am thinking How fucking stupid can you be?  but then, I suppose that there are quite a few folks who bought at the top, and then made a bad situation worse by gambling.  He would not be doing so bad, right now, if he had kept his focus on Bitcoin rather than getting distracted by shitcoins...   Hard to recover, when your principle is only worth about 4% of what you started with?

Now thats a retard that got what he deserves!

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Russell rarely played the stock market and had little investing experience when he put around $120,000 into bitcoin in November 2017. He was stunned when that turned into $500,000 in just one month.

Doesn't know shit about what he's invested in and puts in $120k and it goes to half a million and he doesn't cash out! And worse yet he doubles down on his idiocy by buying into a scamcoin? Jesus he did ZERO research obviously. Stupid fuck should never invest again in anything.



This BTC dip isn't low enuf for you peeps? 

Can't see the forest for the trees?

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September 12, 2018, 09:32:05 PM



bitcoin and ETH will equal in capitalization sooner or later, they have the same reputation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2962774.msg30426301#msg30426301
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September 12, 2018, 09:36:18 PM

But who is Arthur Hayes? Not so many persons know who is it exactly.




Vitalik vs. Arthur professional wrestling match when? Smiley hehe

I knew that long-toothed smile looked familiar. Relatives?

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September 12, 2018, 10:03:23 PM

My take:

 


Bitcoin market dominance to +9000% and shitcoin % to -infinity?

Ok I'm in, lol.
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September 12, 2018, 10:19:38 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-02/jpmorgan-has-some-bad-news-bitcoin-bears
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September 12, 2018, 10:46:44 PM
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This is from December last year and indeed it was bad news for shorts just 2 weeks to the top of 2017.
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This is from December last year and indeed it was bad news for shorts just 2 weeks to the top of 2017.

Institutional hypocrisy at its finest. Smiley

I'm a simple man.

I have a simple metric: Everything that was heavily pre-mined, insta-mined or air dropped is an automatic shitcoin.

There are other reasons I would throw a coin into that category, but this one takes care of the large majority... For example, only BTC, LTC and Monero are left from the top 10 after applying this simple rule.

It get's worse after that. Only Dogecoin is 'clean' out of the next 10...

QFT, It's amazing that that is all you really have todo to quick vett in an instant.



and maybe without any phone or laptop nearby  Roll Eyes

Lol, I didn't see a book at first. Smiley
Hmmm, BRB gotta google something. Cheesy
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September 12, 2018, 11:09:43 PM

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my bad my brother sended it, didn't opened myself ..... i thought maybe something nice to read (what a fool sometimes) LOL  Roll Eyes
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yeah there's something right in that  Smiley
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September 12, 2018, 11:22:17 PM



lucky my iphone X broken again..... but no thx i will pay in worthless FIAT  Smiley
otherwise i'll be walking with a +10K smarthphone  Grin            probably willing to have the iphone Xs
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September 12, 2018, 11:26:31 PM

Capitulation? or Disbelief?


https://twitter.com/d1rtydan/status/1039881903048818693
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