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Question: Next Bubble Top (resulting in a new ATH):
Will never reach a new ATH - 6 (7%)
$20,000-$49,999 - 17 (19.8%)
$50,000-$99,999 - 22 (25.6%)
$100,000-$149,999 - 18 (20.9%)
$150,000-$199,999 - 7 (8.1%)
$200,000-$249,999 - 5 (5.8%)
$250,000-$299,999 - 1 (1.2%)
$300,000-$350,000 - 1 (1.2%)
>$350,000 - 9 (10.5%)
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September 14, 2018, 10:01:14 PM

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Satoshi? Smiley

No.

Craig Wright is Satoshi.  You know it.
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September 14, 2018, 10:01:50 PM

I can’t be bothered arguing with Jbear about bcash lol.  It’s much too nice a day for that.  

Well, something to agree upon.

https://imgur.com/gallery/LK3cT7z

 That is a beautiful view.  Is it all yours or were you just visiting?
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Well, if Jihan and friends have their way, BCH will never have the most accumulated SHA256 work. They are hinting around that they want to decrease the block times to 1 minute and perhaps implement POS.
He's got plenty of hashpower on hand. It's only natural he'd be better off allocating as large a fraction as possible to the more valuable coin. Also, POS can be a very good thing. For those that hold the absolute majority of tokens, at least.


Of course POS would be a good thing for Jihan and his ~1,000,0000 BCH.  Cheesy However, POS on a limited supply coin is always less secure than a POW coin. All an entity needs to do is accumulate 51% of the coins and be in a permanent attack position. No amount of competition will ever be able to unseat them.
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September 14, 2018, 10:33:02 PM

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Satoshi? Smiley

No.

Craig Wright is Satoshi.  You know it.
Well thats what the mass of them truly belief. It's a  Triumvirate, they see Craig as Satoshi, then you have him even threatening hash power (via Jihan) and then we have Roger who announces development projects and main admin staff being banned when he's "just a follower"
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September 14, 2018, 10:34:27 PM

(They are saying this is a BS misinterpretation on Twitter, but posted for the banter... Not sure what to make of asseater)

https://twitter.com/RNR_0/status/1040704249343164416
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September 14, 2018, 10:38:40 PM

I can’t be bothered arguing with Jbear about bcash lol.  It’s much too nice a day for that.  

Well, something to agree upon.

https://imgur.com/gallery/LK3cT7z

Umm...you're on the WO thread reading posts by bears in a forest filled with bears...

You're just asking to be attacked by bears. Everywhere.
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September 14, 2018, 10:47:22 PM

(They are saying this is a BS misinterpretation on Twitter, but posted for the banter... Not sure what to make of asseater)

https://twitter.com/RNR_0/status/1040704249343164416


Volume : 5 BTC . No ?
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September 14, 2018, 10:56:25 PM

I sold my bitchcoin too soon and had that crap feel as I saw it pumped up after I had let mine go.. But now, it doesn't feel like I sold them too soon anymore..

I was never a bcash lover but I'll admit for a while there I was a bit nervous about it, having dumped all of it I could reasonable get to on my keys.. If it took over I would have been screwed but now I'm not worried about it anymore. They tried their best to harm and replace Bitcoin and now it is clear that they have failed..

I got the first post on this (infamous?) "@RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC." thread and at first it looked like he was going to take the deal, and my call was wrong, but he never did take the deal, and my call was eventuall right!!
Ha!

Does anyone know if Ver ended up losing a bunch of money on his beecoin blitz or did he pump and dump enough to make it have been worth his while?

I still have a cas half with .5 Bcoin on it and a lot of other forks still on old seeds I have cycled out of service, that I need to eventually get to and dump..
Ledger needs an update so I might as well get my BTC off of it first and then start it up with a new seed, so I can compromise the old seed trying to claim forks..

Edit: maybe their is some question as to who backed out but when it was still going down I think I recall Ver backing out first atleast..
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September 14, 2018, 11:11:20 PM
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LTC ATH was 0.05 BTC in November 2013.

It is now 0.008 and has never recovered.  

Most shitcoins will never recover from the 2018 crash.  I don’t think we can call BCH dead yet, but it’s not looking particularly healthy.
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September 14, 2018, 11:26:49 PM

Yup. Something's off  Shocked Huh

We don’t have anything to signal a capitulation or reversal.  Volume is piss poor.   So I think I have to assume it is just an oscillation and the model is still correct.   
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September 14, 2018, 11:35:34 PM

I look forward to the next financial crisis  Cool

The whole point of the FED policy is to avoid a crisis.   Instead they are spreading losses over decades, which is seen as a positive compared to the alternative of a crash type adjustment.       So theres two extremes which is fixed pricing via central government which does after all have trillions at its disposal, the alternate is not just a crash but a collapse of that control by the FED over monetary supply.  Its very hard to predict a total revolution


re: the triangle pics, this old concept of the deleveraging process came from the FED itself.   However the people who believed this theory are long gone I guess




https://web.archive.org/web/20121015050632/http://www.dailynews.lk/2007/03/01/fin08.asp


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September 14, 2018, 11:38:10 PM

Volume is piss poor.   



Volume is maintaining nicely IMO. It is still higher than any point in history other than during the great pump and some of the worst of the dump..
Maybe this could be considered the new base volume to be expected on the low end, but since the pump their must be more money flying around constantly..

Granted it is USD volume, and with BTC being so much higher that means more USD for the same amount of BTC so it is definitely possible that previous volume was higher if measure in the amount of bitcoins traded rather than the USD value of the trades..
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September 14, 2018, 11:52:42 PM
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Heres the volume in BTC.  I think its hard to say that we aren't still in an overall trend of declining volume since Dec 2017.  

The cryptowinter recovery was on very low volume, but after the biggest spike in volume in Bitcoin history.

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How much alt coin diversification is needed? 0%?


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September 15, 2018, 12:10:02 AM

We should hope that BCH has a long life. The big blockers need their own chain that they can squabble about block size and other things. Let them have their hash wars on their own chain(s).

Personally, I don' t have any warm and fuzzy feelings for Bcash, because they were begun as Bitcoin attack vector, and they largely still serve as a bitcoin attack vector.

Sure, it is a place to direct the BIG blocker nutjobs, but those fucktwats are not going to be satisfied with their own coin, and really there are all kinds of other alts out there proclaiming to become bitcoin 2.0.. so in the end, a large number of these bitcoin wanna bes are not really that helpful, even if they may serve as a necessary transition for dumb money and other fluff to figure out (even if it takes 100 years) that they shoudl be putting their time and money into bitcoin or at least most of it, rather than various other projects including the bcash trash.

So, even having their own, chain, they are not going to be happy, and they are still going to continue to attack bitcoin, whether bcash is a strong alt coin or a weak one.. .. I see no reason to praise or promote their existence, even though I do understand the necessity to understand that they are there (and serve as a purpose to complain about them as being snake oil). 
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just wow what idiots to see it so small minded .... let them fear and miss the NEXT 1000% or so  Roll Eyes


Then again, depends on when you got your BTC, for example, 2013,2014,2015..still not too shabby considering in 2017 BTC was $1,000.00 Jan 2017!

So if the bubble CAN be discounted...as just that a bubble...perhaps stuff will just plod along upward in a more reasonable manner, price wise. (a guy can hope anyway HODL)

or as they say, in a previous post, 'we retraced the whole bubble' downward to where we are now, (Fall 2017)

(we will see I guess, differs a lot by your time perspective and when you got in on all this)

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Yes.  Of course, the whole depiction is misleading because it attempts to suggest that it's framework is representative - merely based on the calendar year framework - which coincidentally is the top of a bubble (exponential price rise), so the depiction is far from objective, and you likely recall a similar kind of framing in 2014 because so many shills and propaganda spreaders wanted to start the timeclock from the top of the 2013 peak and to suggest how horrible was BTC, as an investment and whine about how many people got screwed - especially those buying at the top of the price (as if that was representative, also).
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September 15, 2018, 12:42:00 AM

Maybe should ask our residential Bcash promoter, jbreher?   Wasn't jbreher keeping 50/50, or something like that? 

Ask me what?

I own many more units of BCH than I do of BTC.

I still see BCH as having a bright future.
Really I wouldn't expect that from you. Bcash was so obviously being propped up by Bitmain, Roger and Craig that I expected nothing to come from it once Bitmain stopped their losses.

I don't much give a damnn what Bitmain, Roger, and Craig do.* For my part, BCH has the properties that made bitcoin great to begin with. Scaling in a logical fashion, and free of the Segwit virus. From my perspective, it is simply technically better than BTC. Hopefully, the world will awaken to this.

* Well, I hope they keep mining it. Though, the DAA allows for drops in hashpower to be relative non events.**

** Unlike BTC, which lacks this safeguard.
I for one much prefer the virus of segwit rather than the cancer or Jihan and Roger. I wouldn't make debatable transaction methods a hill to die on especially with leaders like that.

The fact that you can point out leaders is problematic, but also goes to show that the bcash support group remains small.

Furthermore, we continue to see evidence that there is a lot of their marketing that depends upon marketing themselves as if they were the real bitcoin, but largely the population seems to have caught on to the snake oil nature of their product - yet there are still going to be a   lot of suckers and a lot of folks who get deceived into their ploy, sad as that may be.
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https://www.longhash.com/news/bitcoin-uses-a-lot-of-energy-but-gold-mining-uses-more
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September 15, 2018, 01:27:39 AM

LOL Maybe we should all talk about Bitcoin Gold.  Cheesy

Everybody knows in their heart of hearts that Bitcoin Pizza is the true coin. Crusty coinbases oozing with melted cheddar... mmm.
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September 15, 2018, 02:06:20 AM
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Heres the volume in BTC.  I think its hard to say that we aren't still in an overall trend of declining volume since Dec 2017.  

The cryptowinter recovery was on very low volume, but after the biggest spike in volume in Bitcoin history.



This chart is meaningless less than accurate. Edited for less harshness

You cannot chart one exchange for volume, the time frame for this chart, this was one of 3 main exchanges during the 2013-2014. Now there are many many more exchanges for bitcoin, if you could find one that charts total volume across all exchanges that would be worth analyzing.

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