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Not to be a sexist dick, but the ladies should be kept unaware of crypto holdings. It allows easier thinking in times of trouble. If really, really necessary, one could sell what's needed and magically come up with the money when it's needed.


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Chicks are good at spending money not managing it.

I respectfully disagree. A woman wort her salt is indeed able to save money, just like a man - maybe with different patterns and occasional "slips", but in the same ballpark if not even better.

Now I'm talking from a statistical point of view, so there are bound to be outliers, exceptions and everything, but in my experience the issue with the average woman is risk aversion. Women do have a long term perspective - and they'd better have a good one, since they are less "spendable" as time takes its toll - but they tend to be much more conservative than men. So I can't imagine the average woman buying at 200 and not selling at 1000.

Well we can have differing opinions. I don't think the average woman invests, period.
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September 16, 2018, 04:33:23 PM

A home is a capital depreciating asset. Bitcoin isn’t.

Not in my experience. My home and properties have only appreciated in value. Maybe you bought in the wrong location?

Did it, or did the measurement stick devalue?
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Time to drop a truth bomb in here. Never tell any woman how much crypto you have. They do not love you, they love what you can do for them. If they think you have money, they will feel entitled to it.
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A home is a capital depreciating asset. Bitcoin isn’t.

Not in my experience. My home and properties have only appreciated in value. Maybe you bought in the wrong location?

Did it, or did the measurement stick devalue?

Did you calculate in all the costs? Tax? If anything, it will rarely increase in value unless you know what you are doing and pick the right location. To me, a house is not a worthwhile investment unless you are looking at very long term. 20+ years then yes. Or if you are a pro and you resell them like hotcakes. But even then your returns will be nothing compared to crypto investments.


And when it comes to women, I would never trust one with my money. Mentally, they are like overgrown children.
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Price burst is about to happen
The volatility index is on its lows. See what happened before in the same situations

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September 16, 2018, 05:22:58 PM

Time to drop a truth bomb in here. Never tell any woman how much crypto you have. They do not love you, they love what you can do for them. If they think you have money, they will feel entitled to it.

My gf is pretty angry at me regarding bitcoin to be honest. If I’d cashed out at the ATH I’d have become a millionaire. At the current prices with my HODLED stash, I’m not.

She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.



It's your money and your Bitcoin yet shes "pretty angry". The fact that she says "we’ll never get another chance like that" pretty much tells me she does feel entitled to it and she feels that those realized losses are her losses. I would be looking for a new girlfriend.
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September 16, 2018, 05:32:12 PM

Time to drop a truth bomb in here. Never tell any woman how much crypto you have. They do not love you, they love what you can do for them. If they think you have money, they will feel entitled to it.

My gf is pretty angry at me regarding bitcoin to be honest. If I’d cashed out at the ATH I’d have become a millionaire. At the current prices with my HODLED stash, I’m not.

She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.



It's your money and your Bitcoin yet shes "pretty angry". The fact that she says "we’ll never get another chance like that" pretty much tells me she does feel entitled to it and she feels that those realized losses are her losses. I would be looking for a new girlfriend.

We’ve been together 10 years (since our early 20’s)so it’s not like a new gf thing. I’m HODLING until mid 2021 regardless.
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My gf is pretty angry at me regarding bitcoin to be honest. If I’d cashed out at the ATH I’d have become a millionaire. At the current prices with my HODLED stash, I’m not.

She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.

It’s times like this I look at different charts from the past that show % drops from ATH’s & then look at the subsequent recoveries & new ATH’s that makes me smile & know everything will be ok.

Look out for 6-12 months after the next halving, that’s when I believe we will be wealthy bulls Cheesy


Why didn't she take the chances you did and invested herself then?
She could do with it as she sees fit then.
Oh wait, let me guess, she didn't have the foresight to see its potential and didn't invest when she should have and is now telling you how you should spend your own money. Sounds like great financial advise to me /s.
When it reaches the next ATH dump her and find someone more appreciative.
Never know the situation from other people man..... maybe they are in iT together maybe she couldn’t invest @ that time can’t give a real opinion When you don’t know the whole real story @somebody elses home ..... but i must say i was winning my first BTC and been told to hold them and Why etc and my girl Just said i want This to and start buying When she could ;-) also few alts also been burned but its all a learning process and she did great and keep longterm view of everything So good by me Grin
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This doesn't feel painful what's painful is the wife making me sell for the down payment on a home and soon. I'm going to lose out big.

sell your wive. Not your Bitcoins. She just cost ya  Grin

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She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.

Really, you should shove stg in her mouth to shut her up.

never forget we are BTC-gentleman always with respect for our lady's ...... to come up with magical MONEY is a good one , but my lady hodl's as well  so i'm fine when it comes to BTC  Grin
You're lucky to have a hodling lady. Anyway, I like your style Smiley
Thx man your great to (a positive BULL) we need those Grin
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This doesn't feel painful what's painful is the wife making me sell for the down payment on a home and soon. I'm going to lose out big.

sell your wive. Not your Bitcoins. She just cost ya  Grin

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She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.

Really, you should shove stg in her mouth to shut her up.

never forget we are BTC-gentleman always with respect for our lady's ...... to come up with magical MONEY is a good one , but my lady hodl's as well  so i'm fine when it comes to BTC  Grin
You're lucky to have a hodling lady. Anyway, I like your style Smiley
Thx man your great to (a positive BULL) we need those Grin
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September 16, 2018, 06:28:23 PM

A home is a capital depreciating asset. Bitcoin isn’t.

BUT we do like to live in one  Grin

I get it, but what if we reverse it for an argument's sake.
Can you live IN bitcoin?
A trippy question harking back to "Being John Malkovich"

Can bitcoin be a "vessel"?
This would be clear only to those who watched the movie.
Eventually, at least younger of us would be digitized and reduced to being a digital "presence".
Maybe, then.
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A home is a capital depreciating asset. Bitcoin isn’t.

BUT we do like to live in one  Grin

I get it, but what if we reverse it for an argument's sake.
Can you live IN bitcoin?
A trippy question harking back to "Being John Malkovich"

Can bitcoin be a "vessel"?
This would be clear only to those who watched the movie.
Eventually, at least younger of us would be digitized and reduced to being a digital "presence".
Maybe, then.
Yes. Spend a portion of a percentage of a small part to buy a mansion. Done and done.
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My gf is pretty angry at me regarding bitcoin to be honest. If I’d cashed out at the ATH I’d have become a millionaire. At the current prices with my HODLED stash, I’m not.

She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.

It’s times like this I look at different charts from the past that show % drops from ATH’s & then look at the subsequent recoveries & new ATH’s that makes me smile & know everything will be ok.

Look out for 6-12 months after the next halving, that’s when I believe we will be wealthy bulls Cheesy


Tell her your in it for the movement, not for the money.
You aren't here to get rich, but to make a difference.

She'll stop bothering you and might even respect you for it.
No. Kick her to the fucking curb mate. A relationship is built on trust, and she obviously doesn't trust you. The relationship is already over. Move on and do better.
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Not to be a sexist dick, but the ladies should be kept unaware of crypto holdings. It allows easier thinking in times of trouble. If really, really necessary, one could sell what's needed and magically come up with the money when it's needed.


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Chicks are good at spending money not managing it.

I respectfully disagree. A woman wort her salt is indeed able to save money, just like a man - maybe with different patterns and occasional "slips", but in the same ballpark if not even better.

Now I'm talking from a statistical point of view, so there are bound to be outliers, exceptions and everything, but in my experience the issue with the average woman is risk aversion. Women do have a long term perspective - and they'd better have a good one, since they are less "spendable" as time takes its toll - but they tend to be much more conservative than men. So I can't imagine the average woman buying at 200 and not selling at 1000.
Most women today are not worth anything. On the contrary, they are extremely costly. Consider the divorce laws and the fact that a thing like mgtow even exists.
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So is this what the crypto winter felt like ?  Or still too cheerful?

Sentiment was much worse IMO.

For many, it was their first crypto winter. For all of us, it was the longest, and perhaps most depressing.

There were some serious questions about the future of Bitcoin, especially following the death of Mt. Gox. Even Andreas Antonopoulos was beginning to have doubts about the future of Bitcoin.
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So is this what the crypto winter felt like ?  Or still too cheerful?

Sentiment was much worse IMO.

For many, it was their first crypto winter. For all of us, it was the longest, and perhaps most depressing.

There were some serious questions about the future of Bitcoin, especially following the death of Mt. Gox. Even Andreas Antonopoulos was beginning to have doubts about the future of Bitcoin.

Yeah 2014 sucked, really bad!
Now I see the price has fallen so much but I’m far more confident about the future of bitcoin than I was then. At one stage price wise in late 2014/early 2015 I was more than 50% down (my HODLED coins) on my combined investment.
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She keeps telling me ‘bitcoin is finished, it must be over, you should have cashed out, we’ll never get another chance like that’.


When this starts happening from all your family it is a strong buy signal.

Hodl out for the lower price. And then buy until the cows come home.

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No pain, no gain.
This doesn't feel painful what's painful is the wife making me sell for the down payment on a home and soon. I'm going to lose out big.

understadble ,you would like to delay the house buying a bit for sure, but women stays women ,nothing to do about that


Personally I’d wait until mid 2021. I’d rent a couple more years & then buy the house outright in bitcoin.

Everybody has different circumstances though.

Right into the next housing bubble burst ... That would be nice timing  Grin

haha bubble burst and BTC ATH , what a moment would that be .......
if possible i would wait to but i know if the girl/wife wants it ..... than it has to go fast and no time for logic

Ain't that the truth about the logic  Cheesy
Not to be a sexist dick, but the ladies should be kept unaware of crypto holdings. It allows easier thinking in times of trouble. If really, really necessary, one could sell what's needed and magically come up with the money when it's needed.


Agreed. My wife is mostly kept in the dark regarding my crypto. She knows I have some, but that's pretty much where it ends.

Edit: I trust her and she's the only other person who would be able to access my private keys. However, I handle all of our money and investments. And if she knew how much I had, she'd be bugging me about a new house.
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September 16, 2018, 06:59:37 PM

So is this what the crypto winter felt like ?  Or still too cheerful?

Sentiment was much worse IMO.

For many, it was their first crypto winter. For all of us, it was the longest, and perhaps most depressing.

There were some serious questions about the future of Bitcoin, especially following the death of Mt. Gox. Even Andreas Antonopoulos was beginning to have doubts about the future of Bitcoin.

Yeah 2014 sucked, really bad!
Now I see the price has fallen so much but I’m far more confident about the future of bitcoin than I was then.

There were more bears back then, and they were more confident the price couldn't rise. They were all acting like this one.

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