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January 24, 2014, 10:00:33 AM
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I think this could take ~ 2 weeks to play out. 2 weeks from today is 7th Feb.
I'm finding it hard to be patient and wait til then to see what happens, but i must. Damn nearly bought at 800 last night.
I expect to see it botto out somewhere in the range $500 - $600 but only temporarily. It should recover quickly, so one would have to be fast to catch the bottom - or pick you price and place you orders, and hope for the best.


I've been hearing that for days from several different people. Where do you get this? I'll be buying the whole way down if you're right, but they seem pretty damn cheap right now.

Hpmmm.. just my own observations. Inciddenty, i have been expecting this since the beginning of the year. I think there is money sitting on the sidelines, and people seem to be waiting to see what happens in China on the 31st.
Market seemed to be kept artificially high by trading bots.. keeping it high in order to dump??
These are just some of the indicators i'm going by.
These and a healthy dose of wishful thinknig.

Anway.. looks to be rebounding now. Support at ~$776

A crash that big would be bad for Bitcoin and scare away new investors and more importantly merchants. I believe in this thing and I want it to succeed in the long run, not just make short term money. Of course making money is good too, but it's not my top priority. But maybe a slower adoption rate is better. Most people couldn't handle these swings. That's why there's more slot machines than chairs at the no limit table. Texas Hodl 'em!

In a way i agree with you. It may not even drop that low and if it does it won't stay there for very long. Might not even see $600.
And anything below this is a bit of wishful thinking on my part.

I'm not looking for short term profit either. I have money waiting on stamp, and i'm trying to get as many coins as possible for this money. More coins the better in the long term. So this is why i'm willing it to go down a bit more. Greed on my part, i'll admit, but not short term greed. I Just want more coins, cheaper prices means more coins.

 careful, Hoss. You might miss the train.
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January 24, 2014, 10:11:51 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over
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January 24, 2014, 10:18:01 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

Most of the money being put into bitcoin is a gamble. It's easy to see huge gains on something which is altogether worth very little anyway.
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January 24, 2014, 10:24:37 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. Tongue
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January 24, 2014, 10:26:59 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over


copycat scammers and greedy opportunists always flock when they think there's easy money to be had. This is the price of success. They think we were just lucky. They will learn the hard way that is was courage in the face of extreme odds that got us here and we won't part with our rewards easily.
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January 24, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. Tongue
The question is who is buying that rubbish and for what purpose. Is this JP Morgans and there brothers attempt to discredit quality coins and push all sorts of rubbish to new heights.
http://rt.com/usa/chase-ceo-bitcoin-terrible-downfall-100/
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January 24, 2014, 10:37:22 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over


This might lead to high volatility in the price of bitcoin

Imagine a few bubbles pop in the altcoins universe at the same time, everyone will rush to cash out their altcoins to bitcoins                    and then (maybe) to USD , leading eventually to the bitcoin/usd price to pop too


Don't know if the market cap of the altcoins can have a big effect in the BTC/USD price
 
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January 24, 2014, 10:46:34 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over


This might lead to high volatility in the price of bitcoin

Imagine a few bubbles pop in the altcoins universe at the same time, everyone will rush to cash out their altcoins to bitcoins                    and then (maybe) to USD , leading eventually to the bitcoin/usd price to pop too


Don't know if the market cap of the altcoins can have a big effect in the BTC/USD price
 

If the gamblers are primarily buying altcoins with bitcoin, then I don't see how that's bad for Bitcoin. They couldn't hurt the price anymore than they helped it in the first place. It's not really any different than using bitcoin to gamble dice or poker. Later updates of the Bitcoin client might even adopt some of the good alt-coin ideas. It's when they bypass bitcoin and have altcoin-to-fiat exchanges that it could be a dangerous distraction. Money is the most marketable commodity. Like the Highlander said, "There can be only one." 
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January 24, 2014, 10:53:14 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. Tongue
The question is who is buying that rubbish and for what purpose. Is this JP Morgans and there brothers attempt to discredit quality coins and push all sorts of rubbish to new heights.
http://rt.com/usa/chase-ceo-bitcoin-terrible-downfall-100/

hmmmm...chase ceo   (bank firm) says bitcoin is a scam.....hmmmm....why in the world would any one be surprised by that viewpoint from them?

decentralized power is always a problem to those who have centralized power  (just ask AT&T)
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January 24, 2014, 10:54:01 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. Tongue
The question is who is buying that rubbish and for what purpose. Is this JP Morgans and there brothers attempt to discredit quality coins and push all sorts of rubbish to new heights.

Actually I bought some of those Mooncoins because I think the name is just too awesome not to buy some. Grin It's just for fun mainly, it's like playing poker for a bit of money. I also buy coins that have real potential, but those I don't play around with. I don't really think this is detrimental to Bitcoin, it actually creates a larger crypto community as a whole. Some entertainment is important too you know, it can't be serious business all the time if you want people to come and stay. Wink
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January 24, 2014, 10:58:46 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. Tongue
The question is who is buying that rubbish and for what purpose. Is this JP Morgans and there brothers attempt to discredit quality coins and push all sorts of rubbish to new heights.
http://rt.com/usa/chase-ceo-bitcoin-terrible-downfall-100/

hmmmm...chase ceo   (bank firm) says bitcoin is a scam.....hmmmm....why in the world would any one be surprised by that viewpoint from them?

decentralized power is always a problem to those who have centralized power  (just ask AT&T)

Huh.. yeah exactly. I was reading this and my irlfriend came in and said 'Uh-oh.. what he's saying is bad for bitcoin'.. before i politely pointed out that he is from a bank (JP Morgan?) and if he's saying bitcoin = bad.. then this means the oppositte. This is exacly what i'd expect him to say.. and that whatever he says about bitcoin, then she can believe the opposite.
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January 24, 2014, 11:02:29 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. Tongue
The question is who is buying that rubbish and for what purpose. Is this JP Morgans and there brothers attempt to discredit quality coins and push all sorts of rubbish to new heights.

Actually I bought some of those Mooncoins because I think the name is just too awesome not to buy some. Grin It's just for fun mainly, it's like playing poker for a bit of money. I also buy coins that have real potential, but those I don't play around with. I don't really think this is detrimental to Bitcoin, it actually creates a larger crypto community as a whole. Some entertainment is important too you know, it can't be serious business all the time if you want people to come and stay. Wink
Hi folks, this is my first post here. I've been following this thread for a while.

I don't think altcoins are a real threat to Bitcoin. If Bitcoins was so fragile, it wouldn't deserve to survive. Some of the sillier altcoins are a threat to the more serious altcoins, though, as they confuse the market.

The important altcoins are the ones that innovate on the Bitcoin idea; either the good ideas will be incorporated into Bitcoin eventually, or if not, the good altcoins will have a life of their own.

Also, I think altcoins divert some speculation away from bitcoin, which should help bitcoin's stability.
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January 24, 2014, 11:09:10 AM
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What is going on in the world?
Has bitcoins spirit and purpose been lost and gambles taken over

People have simply discovered it's fun to purchase/use some BTC and start gambling in the altcoins. What's wrong with that? Don't you have any gambling spirit in you? You must have or you wouldn't be here. Tongue
The question is who is buying that rubbish and for what purpose. Is this JP Morgans and there brothers attempt to discredit quality coins and push all sorts of rubbish to new heights.
http://rt.com/usa/chase-ceo-bitcoin-terrible-downfall-100/

hmmmm...chase ceo   (bank firm) says bitcoin is a scam.....hmmmm....why in the world would any one be surprised by that viewpoint from them?

decentralized power is always a problem to those who have centralized power  (just ask AT&T)

Huh.. yeah exactly. I was reading this and my irlfriend came in and said 'Uh-oh.. what he's saying is bad for bitcoin'.. before i politely pointed out that he is from a bank (JP Morgan?) and if he's saying bitcoin = bad.. then this means the oppositte. This is exacly what i'd expect him to say.. and that whatever he says about bitcoin, then she can believe the opposite.
"we have to make sure it does not become an avenue to funding illegal activity or to funding activities that have malign purposes" - Jamie Dimon

I agree with him. When it comes to funding illegal activity and funding activities that have malign purposes, JPMorgan doesn't want competition.
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January 24, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
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I´ve just read that google is also thinking about bitcoin as payment method. But its not official.

Google are not thinking about using Bitcoin as a payment method, they're just looking at it.

http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/01/23/despite-claims-reddit-suggesting-otherwise-google-says-current-plans-regarding-bitcoin/

Tell Google what you want regarding Bitcoin here, 1000's of others already have :

https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=20e106

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That 1w Macd is looking real scary btw. Shocked

350 BTC ask @785$ on Stamp, things are gettin serious Cheesy Grin

Grab your cheap coins ; Roll Eyes Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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January 24, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
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irlfriend

is that girlfriend or in-real-life friend?

either way many people around here have neither
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January 24, 2014, 11:50:10 AM
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irlfriend

is that girlfriend or in-real-life friend?

either way many people around here have neither

i could get 0.5 btc for both. Seemed like a good deal to me Grin
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January 24, 2014, 11:50:30 AM
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Hey Willy can you bug and start dumping 25 btc every 25 secs, that would be nice Cheesy
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January 24, 2014, 11:52:53 AM
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Hey Willy can you bug and start dumping 25 btc every 25 secs, that would be nice Cheesy

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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January 24, 2014, 11:57:43 AM
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Hey Willy can you bug and start dumping 25 btc every 25 secs, that would be nice Cheesy

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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