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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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BCH has popped up like 35% over the week, no clue why, must be manipulation with Ver.
the pump started here:
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018711772
shitcoin is prob forking
Who could the forkers be? Bitmain or some opponent? The temporary bump in price may look good for Bitmain's books with IPO investors, but I think consensus is that the steady post-fork value will take a dent. This makes it less likely that it is a Bitmain tactic. But are there any real opponents in that camp?

Serious question? You must have been offline for quite some time.

Synopsis: one group wants one set of changes. Another group wants a different set of changes. Though both sets of changes could coexist, both groups are insisting upon only their changes. In the face of this, there is another group that insists on no changes. And one last group that is building a client that any or all changes are selectable a la carte.

We can end up with one, two, three, or more branches coming out of the fork date. Who is the forker and who is the main chain is up for debate.

See the Bitcoin Cash thread for more info.

I'm still hoping for a kumbaya moment.

You're all a bunch of forkers.
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BCH has popped up like 35% over the week, no clue why, must be manipulation with Ver.
the pump started here:
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018711772
shitcoin is prob forking
Who could the forkers be? Bitmain or some opponent? The temporary bump in price may look good for Bitmain's books with IPO investors, but I think consensus is that the steady post-fork value will take a dent. This makes it less likely that it is a Bitmain tactic. But are there any real opponents in that camp?

Serious question? You must have been offline for quite some time.
I have over 100 pages to catch up indeed, and no time or energy for it.

Besides, these fork schemes are often not what they look like from the outside, so I was fishing for more viewpoints: either fine conspiracy theorists or bch pundits. I got the latter, thank you.

There has not been much discussion of the bcash fork on this thread, and probably like jbreher mentioned, it is NOT really something that any bcasher would want to publicize, since it is a fairly fractured set of circumstances, and bitcoiners are likely not too receptive to such discussion - except for the fact that such circumstances is likely contributing to holding bitcoin back from any likely upwards price moves.
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Quoting the roach, -1 WO point for you!

Seriously.

I'm thinking we need to start having the ability of issuing demerits for particularly egregious posts. Say at a 3:1 conversion ratio. 3 merit points required to issue 1 demerit against someone.

/meta

We can setup a system where you receive so many merits per month you spend on shit like quoting the roach. JJG starts with a negative number just because. Smiley

Yeah.. you, Hueristic, sound like a real authority in the matter.   Roll Eyes



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BCH has popped up like 35% over the week, no clue why, must be manipulation with Ver.
the pump started here:
https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018711772
shitcoin is prob forking

Hah, anyone that hasn't dumped will have a good time double dumping. Smiley

Hmm...bcash is up but not enough for me to pull out my cold storage.

I only did a few at .2 BTC...it's less than .1

But...But...DoubleDump!


Nice hats guys. I have been holding off because of not being sure this new trend would last. Now getting a bit of FOMO to be honest.

I like my avatar though. Never changed it after the forum finally again allowed uploading one. Good ‘old’ days..


Btw: started buying again. Can’t help myself at these prices and all the nonsense about a popped bubble. A market cap of 100 billion, laughable. For years the US and EU each have been Printing those amounts on a Monthly basis.

IOU sM+

Yeah, of course.

That would work out really well in practice.  I know that some members are so vindictive, emotional, and insecure that they would spend 10 of their smerits just to take away one merit from another member.  Great idea, blawb   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Future WO merit wars, sounds like a black mirror episode. Smiley

I don't use to look at the price anymore

but when I do it's $6400.

Hah, good one, needs to be meme!



We can end up with one, two, three, or more branches coming out of the fork date.

Is there a specific fork date, or a rough timeframe for one yet?

November 15. Actually way more specific than that. Check the usual Bitcoin Cash info sources. I'm on a plane now, lacking usual connectivity, or I'd point you directly.

You are our usual bch source, actually the only one AFAIK.

Quoting the roach, -1 WO point for you!

Seriously.

I'm thinking we need to start having the ability of issuing demerits for particularly egregious posts. Say at a 3:1 conversion ratio. 3 merit points required to issue 1 demerit against someone.

/meta

We can setup a system where you receive so many merits per month you spend on shit like quoting the roach. JJG starts with a negative number just because. Smiley

Yeah.. you, Hueristic, sound like a real authority in the matter.   Roll Eyes



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    The cynical view of the Bcash fork is as follows:

  • November is historically the strongest month.  Bitcoin almost always goes up in November
  • The fork date is 15 November.  This is smack in the middle of a rally month
  • This date is a deliberate choice.  Of the 365 days in the year, picking the single strongest price day of the year is no coincidence
  • We know from past experience that forks cause price rallies
  • The conclusion is that this hard fork date was deliberately chosen to create a rally
  • Roger Ver has excellent skills at social media
  • Crypto twitter and Reddit love a drama
  • Roger Ver, Jihan Wu and Craig Wright all love a dollar
  • They are not the sort of guys to let a disagreement over relatively minor technical aspects get in the way of making a dollar
  • They certainly do not lose money to uphold obscure points of principle
  • Therefore the purpose of this hard fork is to make money, with a story line played out in social media drama
  • The most likely beneficiaries of a rally are existing bag holders
  • The biggest bag holders are Jihan, Ver and Calvin Ayre (who controls Craig Wright)
  • The most likely explanation is that the Bcash fork is just a whale game by Jihan, Ver and Ayre to suck the punters out of their money
  • They will probably have a Kumbaya moment at some point and all will be forgotten, after they have lined their pockets
  • Because after all, it’s just a game to them

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not sure we want to be on front page of goop but w/e
https://twitter.com/GwynethPaltrow/status/1059491821292679168

Lots of fucktarded idiots in the comment section like this D. Dickerson girl who was promoting voting for elections on blockchain.  Newsflash:  if you have voting on blockchain, your identity, social security, bank account, medical history, EVERYTHING else is also going to be tied to that entry.  It's a trojan horse for an exact replica of the Chinese social credit score system - a complete dystopia.  If the (Marxist Jewish controlled) govt doesn't like you, your non-fungible money will be blacklisted and turned off or unspendable, and entire existence will be wiped out with a keystroke just like they ban people on Twitter.

People who advocate forcing identity to be tied to "blockchain" are either shabbos goyim servants of the Jew banks, or just low IQ idiots in general.  But it doesn't matter what you do, because transaction validators in craptocurrency are always designed to centralize and inevitably be controlled/run by govts.  That's why there's zero reason to support any of this garbage over physical silver and gold.  The only possible evolution of craptocurrency is dystopia.
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    The cynical view of the Bcash fork is as follows:

  • November is historically the strongest month.  Bitcoin almost always goes up in November
  • The fork date is 15 November.  This is smack in the middle of a rally month
  • This date is a deliberate choice.  Of the 365 days in the year, picking the single strongest price day of the year is no coincidence
  • We know from past experience that forks cause price rallies
  • The conclusion is that this hard fork date was deliberately chosen to create a rally
  • Roger Ver has excellent skills at social media
  • Crypto twitter and Reddit love a drama
  • Roger Ver, Jihan Wu and Craig Wright all love a dollar
  • They are not the sort of guys to let a disagreement over relatively minor technical aspects get in the way of making a dollar
  • They certainly do not lose money to uphold obscure points of principle
  • Therefore the purpose of this hard fork is to make money, with a story line played out in social media drama
  • The most likely beneficiaries of a rally are existing bag holders
  • The biggest bag holders are Jihan, Ver and Calvin Ayre (who controls Craig Wright)
  • The most likely explanation is that the Bcash fork is just a whale game by Jihan, Ver and Ayre to suck the punters out of their money
  • They will probably have a Kumbaya moment at some point and all will be forgotten, after they have lined their pockets
  • Because after all, it’s just a game to them

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I wonder if I have to move my BCH off my original 2015 BTC wallets to claim this supposed BCH fork? Seems the kinda thing Craig Wright would do,

only allow a fork off of a BCH address proper on the snapshot? (clarify anyone)..anyway free $$$ I should probably keep up on this in some manner and get

an answer to this question on the fork. You'd think if legit it would be mentioned someplace as a yea or nay...but not a lot of clarity in all this Smiley

thanks off topic (kinda) but this crap is hanging like barnacles off my BTC blockchain...best to know I guess

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And for anyone who couldn't figure out the bottom for metals is in:

BREAKING: Republic Metals Corporation (Gold & Silver Refiner/Private Mint) Files For Bankruptcy

https://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/breaking-republic-metals-corporation-gold-silver-refinerprivate-mint-files-for-bankruptcy/
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And for anyone who couldn't figure out the bottom for metals is in:

BREAKING: Republic Metals Corporation (Gold & Silver Refiner/Private Mint) Files For Bankruptcy

https://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/breaking-republic-metals-corporation-gold-silver-refinerprivate-mint-files-for-bankruptcy/

Who gives a shit?
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Who gives a shit?

Were you replying to your own post?
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not sure we want to be on front page of goop but w/e
https://twitter.com/GwynethPaltrow/status/1059491821292679168

Lots of fucktarded idiots in the comment section like this D. Dickerson girl who was promoting voting for elections on blockchain.  Newsflash:  if you have voting on blockchain, your identity, social security, bank account, medical history, EVERYTHING else is also going to be tied to that entry.  It's a trojan horse for an exact replica of the Chinese social credit score system - a complete dystopia.  If the (Marxist Jewish controlled) govt doesn't like you, your non-fungible money will be blacklisted and turned off or unspendable, and entire existence will be wiped out with a keystroke just like they ban people on Twitter.

People who advocate forcing identity to be tied to "blockchain" are either shabbos goyim servants of the Jew banks, or just low IQ idiots in general.  But it doesn't matter what you do, because transaction validators in craptocurrency are always designed to centralize and inevitably be controlled/run by govts.  That's why there's zero reason to support any of this garbage over physical silver and gold.  The only possible evolution of craptocurrency is dystopia.

I can't buy a jug of milk with silver. You are not very original or interesting you know?
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not sure we want to be on front page of goop but w/e
https://twitter.com/GwynethPaltrow/status/1059491821292679168

Lots of fucktarded idiots in the comment section like this D. Dickerson girl who was promoting voting for elections on blockchain.  Newsflash:  if you have voting on blockchain, your identity, social security, bank account, medical history, EVERYTHING else is also going to be tied to that entry.  It's a trojan horse for an exact replica of the Chinese social credit score system - a complete dystopia.  If the (Marxist Jewish controlled) govt doesn't like you, your non-fungible money will be blacklisted and turned off or unspendable, and entire existence will be wiped out with a keystroke just like they ban people on Twitter.

People who advocate forcing identity to be tied to "blockchain" are either shabbos goyim servants of the Jew banks, or just low IQ idiots in general.  But it doesn't matter what you do, because transaction validators in craptocurrency are always designed to centralize and inevitably be controlled/run by govts.  That's why there's zero reason to support any of this garbage over physical silver and gold.  The only possible evolution of craptocurrency is dystopia.

I can't buy a jug of milk with silver. You are not very original or interesting you know?

Oh yes, you are so correct!  Nobody has ever used gold or silver to purchase things before!  By your logic people should use fiat instead of shitcoins because it's easier to "buy a jug of milk" with fiat.
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and most people are pieces of shit.

This is pie in the sky thinking.....  or should I say shit in the gutter thinking?

Not a very healthy mindset, but if you are an adult, it is NOT easy to change your thinking about these kinds of presumptions.
No, I mean most people are objectively, scientifically, pieces of shit and I can prove it with science. /Rick

It's about the amygdala. The bigger it is the more moral a person is, on average, and it has never in history been as understimulated among the general population as today. This is the sort of thing that collapses entire cultures. Happened to the romans, probably the mesopotamians, the soviets, the maoists and all the other socialist states back in the 20th century, and it is happening again. This time on a large scale.

I suppose that the bright side is that instead of being a sociopath - or a psychopath, at least you seem to be attempting to take an objective approach to the matter.

If you really believe that "most people are pieces of shit" assertion, I was thinking that you might need therapy.  Instead, you want to attempt to objectively justify such baloney...

I would surmise that the science starts with stupid-ass presumptions that attempt to prove the point that they want to make rather than truely attempting to be objective.
Dude I never said I liked it. But it is what the science shows. Reality is what it is.
link that science shit
if you'd be so kind
link the science shit where morality is measured
and correlated with amygdala size
link the connection to stimulation of the amygdala
link where this is measured over significant history
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I can't buy a jug of milk with silver. You are not very original or interesting you know?

Speaking of...now that I'm in a country that has a bitcoin exchange I need to stop being lazy and figure out how to live off of bitcoin again. I've been just selling through my gf who sells on localbitcoins so we just use cash.

But I'm finally living somewhere with an address and online shopping so it's time to get back to it.

When I was in Germany I bought my groceries (including fresh meat and produce) on Amazon. Living in such a small country their shipping is next day for everything.
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and most people are pieces of shit.

This is pie in the sky thinking.....  or should I say shit in the gutter thinking?

Not a very healthy mindset, but if you are an adult, it is NOT easy to change your thinking about these kinds of presumptions.
No, I mean most people are objectively, scientifically, pieces of shit and I can prove it with science. /Rick

It's about the amygdala. The bigger it is the more moral a person is, on average, and it has never in history been as understimulated among the general population as today. This is the sort of thing that collapses entire cultures. Happened to the romans, probably the mesopotamians, the soviets, the maoists and all the other socialist states back in the 20th century, and it is happening again. This time on a large scale.

I suppose that the bright side is that instead of being a sociopath - or a psychopath, at least you seem to be attempting to take an objective approach to the matter.

If you really believe that "most people are pieces of shit" assertion, I was thinking that you might need therapy.  Instead, you want to attempt to objectively justify such baloney...

I would surmise that the science starts with stupid-ass presumptions that attempt to prove the point that they want to make rather than truely attempting to be objective.
Dude I never said I liked it. But it is what the science shows. Reality is what it is.
link that science shit
if you'd be so kind
link the science shit where morality is measured
and correlated with amygdala size
link the connection to stimulation of the amygdala
link where this is measured over significant history
Certainly. First, read this book: http://www.anonymousconservative.com/

It's free every few weeks if you don't wanna pay for it (I didn't initially, it's fine). Alternatively at least watch youtube vids on the topic (such as the gene wars series by Stefan Molyneux).

Yes this is work. Yes it will require some mental processing. Complex topics are like that.

Now, having understood the theory, we know that K-types, people with a big amygdala (it physically changes size as it develops - we can physically measure this aspect of how people think), tend towards the right of the political spectrum, while r-types tend towards the left.

According to the moral foundations theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory) and every test done on the topic so far (such as this one: https://www.psypost.org/2017/06/study-people-left-right-use-different-cognitive-systems-make-moral-judgments-49187), lefties primarily (exclusively in extreme cases) focus on two of them: Care and Fairness. Righties focus on all five. In other words it is a higher level of moral reasoning.

And there we go. It's pretty straightforward, just takes a bit of reading to get all the relevant info.

And finally let me make one thing abundantly clear. I do not like this. I want to be wrong. If you can find any flaws in the above, beyond "eat a dick fascist", then please do let me know.
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utterly thrilled most of you take number 1 so seriously
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gonna go with my broter to one of you guys town/city next month.... for A BIG EVENT......
which town/city what event ??
some THING to guess perhaps  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
ORGY?
https://www.dancexchange.org.uk/events/this-is-an-island/
brexit dance, Birmingham??
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NO NO will be in europe and not CRYPTO related +- 54k people (it will be full - and first time there for me )  
1 of you guys should know this place immediately Roll Eyes

Frankfurt, orgy.
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Frankfurt, orgy.

Frankfurt orgies are not a big event. Just head on down to the FKK.
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    The cynical view of the Bcash fork is as follows:

  • November is historically the strongest month.  Bitcoin almost always goes up in November
  • The fork date is 15 November.  This is smack in the middle of a rally month
  • This date is a deliberate choice.  Of the 365 days in the year, picking the single strongest price day of the year is no coincidence
  • We know from past experience that forks cause price rallies
  • The conclusion is that this hard fork date was deliberately chosen to create a rally
  • Roger Ver has excellent skills at social media
  • Crypto twitter and Reddit love a drama
  • Roger Ver, Jihan Wu and Craig Wright all love a dollar
  • They are not the sort of guys to let a disagreement over relatively minor technical aspects get in the way of making a dollar
  • They certainly do not lose money to uphold obscure points of principle
  • Therefore the purpose of this hard fork is to make money, with a story line played out in social media drama
  • The most likely beneficiaries of a rally are existing bag holders
  • The biggest bag holders are Jihan, Ver and Calvin Ayre (who controls Craig Wright)
  • The most likely explanation is that the Bcash fork is just a whale game by Jihan, Ver and Ayre to suck the punters out of their money
  • They will probably have a Kumbaya moment at some point and all will be forgotten, after they have lined their pockets
  • Because after all, it’s just a game to them

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I wonder if I have to move my BCH off my original 2015 BTC wallets to claim this supposed BCH fork? Seems the kinda thing Craig Wright would do,

only allow a fork off of a BCH address proper on the snapshot? (clarify anyone)..anyway free $$$ I should probably keep up on this in some manner and get

an answer to this question on the fork. You'd think if legit it would be mentioned someplace as a yea or nay...but not a lot of clarity in all this Smiley

thanks off topic (kinda) but this crap is hanging like barnacles off my BTC blockchain...best to know I guess

brad



I spent all of my BCH, lived like a King for a year & absolutely loved it. Any way....I still have the private keys from my old BITCOIN addresses that I claimed the BCH from.

Quick question -  Can you still claim the new BCH fork coins from the old BITCOIN private keys or will it only be from BCH addresses/keys?
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