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[Elwar]

BTC crashing hard.

Was going to mention a huge buy wall at $6300 (usually a downward indicator) but forgot.

So ends bitcoin.

Was roach right all along? Time to read Mein Kempf?

You should read mein kampf regardless. Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. It's not even just a cute saying, it's the literal truth.

By the way, how much does living on your seastead cost?

Actually I might read it. I have been reading several books that had a huge impact on the world just so that I understand the source as opposed to what I am told.

I read Nietzche's Will To Power because it was said that Hitler based much of his philosophy on it. I wanted to see what kind of book could spark such devastation.

I'm currently reading the Bible. So far I am learning that many people manipulate the stories that are actually told in it to their own end.

Mein Kampf may be a good one to read as well. I would also like to read historically significant books from other cultures, understanding that western history was not the only one.

As for the price of a seastead? We're looking to have the price near the equivalent of a single family home in the US. Cheaper per sqm than a boat but more expensive per sqm than on land.

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[bitserve]

Tone Vays and CSW

https://youtu.be/ACEUOCoVvmw

I did watch the video (it's about 1 hour long in which Tone Vays interviews Craig Wright).  Sure, it is a bit irksome to listen to CSW, at all.

When I decided to watch the video, I considered that Vays is a sufficiently focused person and that he would attempt to research into matters and to ask probing questions of Wright.  Surely, Vays did a sufficient job to allow Wright to make his various points and also to show some of the nonsense and evasiveness of Wright's points, without getting too distracted by confrontation.  

Ooooookay. I watched the full video (have no life I guess). Interesting. Shocking.

Considering it is only a few more days till the actual fight starts (and probably ends too) it may be pointless to say all that I am thinking at this time. But I will say this:

- Bluffs, bluffs everywhere and coming from all sides.

- Craig is prolly some sort of figurehead of Calvin Ayre. A real confirmed billionaire (unlike him) used to market public personal image for his dealings. Maybe Craig contacted him initially or maybe it was the other way around. They can use each other.

- Ayre is probably going to let Wright fall if/when he fails, which is the more likely outcome of all this show. No way he is really going to burn through hundreds of millions in mining a useless non profitable fork. That's why Wright is going full retard into it. Only one way out for him now.

Well, anyway, only a couple days left.... Get your popcorns already.

[Elwar]

I logged into Coinbase and noticed that I have about 1 BCH on there. So I took it off and put it into a paper wallet. I will play around with my 1 BCH after the split and see what I can get out of it.

[DireWolfM14]

Ooooookay. I watched the full video (have no life I guess). Interesting. Shocking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxopViU98Xo

 

[Hueristic]

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Conclusion: bottomed.

yep...but where be the newbies jumping in now for the next pump?

...dang whippersnappers...I remember 'newbies' in my day knew how to toss $$ around for dubious

ASIC equipment and were risk takers!  Gin/Fast Women and BTC!

ASIC stills in everyone's basement!
...
brad

They are all getting scammed on the new FPGA hybrid boards that either don't exist or just don't ship and when they do the coin forks them in the butt.

We don't need any newbies for the price to go back up. In fact I'd say in the last run-up, up until the 1200 ATH, there were not that many newbies coming into it at all. Mainly just the true believers buying their coins as usual. The newbies are what create the bubble, they probably only really started coming into it a few months into 2017.

Eventually the true believers eat up all the sellers coins, and then the price slowly goes back up as only the miners coins are left to purchase. ATH breaks, then come the noobs.

Yeah it is a kind of reverse of what it should be. But thats why they be called n00bs! Hah

I think Craig Wright hasd gone insane. In the middle of his shitcoin pissing contest he decides to take on Zcrap and Fud Monero as well? What a Tool and a Fool.

He has obviously never read.





Hey JJG, I just noticed they locked the thread on your post. Ya think they were saying stfu?
/jk wrong day

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065375.msg47777032#msg47777032

yeah on that...... ( many things that are being said there by you are just very obvious)

-yeah that a tattoo is personal is just very logic (if its that BTC one or lebowski one or one of my other ones).....,  and yes its offcourse a personal decision (its NOT to promote that everyone should take one), and just said there wil be BTC'ers that like and don't like it (so whitout the tattoo, in here is the most important that i'm just a BTC'er, and i don't see anything wrong with sharing a BTC tattoo? )
the tattoo is also not about BTC promotion etc but just a crazy fun  PERSONAL tattoo,that really caught me @that time , of a thing thats been a BIG part in my last years (life)
i don't want of need for others to do BTC tattoo's or anything... (driving lambo's with btc signs, talking about buying big things with BTC gaines etc) is also not in my range of things that i do or would do......
i think i'm just someone that says to like BTC and very much around BTC....

and i never talk about my finances or coins or whatever.... i might be always just buying a few in BTC to support those games and not owning anything myself .......


*Seems that you are considering this matter too personally, if you are considering the topic of gams and the topic of wearing of BTC markings to be related.*
^
don't understand that one? just saying after that thread to join the next games if they want to..... (for those that never saw the game things)...
i never said that wearing btc things and those games to be related ? ?

don't be writing just to write ?  

HAHA, I linked it but I never read it! Lool...you made me have to go back and read it. And I still only got half way through it!

^night goose

Meanwhile in other fake news https://coingeek.com/former-blockstream-cto-gregory-maxwell-sees-light/ https://archive.is/aDswR
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9vaqn4/guys_im_going_to_say_it_bitcoin_sv_is_an_attempt/ https://archive.is/bhanD

Gregory Maxwell, co-founder and former CTO of the Bitcoin Core (BTC) institution Blockstream, has had a change of heart. For reasons yet unknown, the crypto expert has come to the realization that Bitcoin SV is the real Bitcoin, and has even offered to lend a hand. He penned an email to Dr. Craig Wright of nChain and Bitcoin BCH development, in which he mentioned that he was prepared to offer his “discreet assistance.” Better late than never, it’s good to see that Maxwell has finally come around. Here is his email, formatted to make reading easier.

It's not a fake news.
Greg Maxwell has just confirmed it to Trustnodes

https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/11/11/gregory-maxwell-admits-he-emailed-craig-wright-to-offer-assistance

Well that makes sense, apparently Discrete is not in Dr. Craigs dictionary.

“I believe it would be adverse for interests that concern me if your influence or prominence in BCH were in any way diminished. I am not aware of how I could be of aid in repairing this situation, but it seemed to me that it would be prudent to at least offer my discreet assistance.”

Could we have a like button for posts please. Then merit would mean more...

I agree. I ran out of merit six months ago and have not posted anything to gain merit because I had nothing worthwhile to say.

I can repect that.
IOW +sM

And you need a hat.

Ooooookay. I watched the full video (have no life I guess). Interesting. Shocking.

Considering it is only a few more days till the actual fight starts (and probably ends too) it may be pointless to say all that I am thinking at this time. But I will say this:

- Bluffs, bluffs everywhere and coming from all sides.

- Craig is prolly some sort of figurehead of Calvin Ayre. A real confirmed billionaire (unlike him) used to market public personal image for his dealings. Maybe Craig contacted him initially or maybe it was the other way around. They can use each other.

- Ayre is probably going to let Wright fall if/when he fails, which is the more likely outcome of all this show. No way he is really going to burn through hundreds of millions in mining a useless non profitable fork. That's why Wright is going full retard into it. Only one way out for him now.

Well, anyway, only a couple days left.... Get your popcorns already.

Better man than me...but us tinfoil hat guys we think...


BTW, Happy Vets Day Guys, Semper FI

[HairyMaclairy]

Tether looking shaky.  Possible short squeeze on Bitfinex with price spike to above $7k again. 

[HairyMaclairy]

You’ve been saying this since about April or May and still waiting to break below $6k in any kind of meaningful way

... I'm inclined to think anybody in bitcoin for longer terms would want to be in a buy to strong buy accumulation phase now or in the near future ...

... and they would want to have that accumulation phase wrapped up by April-May '19 time frame (12 months prior to halvening) to maximise the bottom scraping accumulation.

Yes the 2014 model says we should hit absolute bottom in the next 3-4 months and be back in a bull market by October 2019.  If we cannot break $6k for the absolute bottom, that’s bullish for the next cycle.  It means this bear market has been comparatively shallow at only a 70% drop.  Historically we have gone over 80%. 

[JayJuanGee]

Bitcoin as a high value settlement system.



https://medium.com/@nic__carter/transaction-count-is-an-inferior-measure-fba2d5ac97f1?sk=c59b38988d77eb5725276a7296afb403

Recently, I have been thinking that attempts to plug bitcoin into mere utility, such as transactions, remains insufficient because such attempts to plug bitcoin (in terms of utility) tends to undervalue the utility of the secure control over your value that bitcoin continues to offer (which, perhaps is a bit of an intangible that will still give value to bitcoin, overall).

[r1s2g3]

Your posts look pretty pretty good and the octosphincter is sated. Choose a picture you would want as an avatar and comrade homer might put it on a cap for you.

Thanks for your words.

Bright Orange Bitcoin logo in Royal Navy Blue hat will definitely make  my day.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/File:BC_Logo_.png

Did I do it right?



Avatar-sized

Thank you xhomerx10 . I love it. Absolutely fantastic.

[Phil_S]

inb4 6400 is the new 6400

Checkt the forum real quick and thx goldkingcoiner, 6400 it is

See, that's why we can't have nice things...

[JayJuanGee]

Update on 2014/18 cryptowinter model

https://preview.ibb.co/mzimSq/6-AAB6-DA5-16-FE-468-C-82-F6-EAC6-C3-C4-DD5-B.png

I love how all you buffoons that claimed I was "trolling" 10 months ago when the price was $20k and I said it was going to collapse stabilizing probably around $4200-4400 with a flash crash to $3k are now copying my exact estimate almost word for word.  

Get the fuck out of here, dumbass.

People have been proclaiming that you are a troll and a nutjob since at least 2015 - so don't try to suggest that merely because you have been calling the bottom since 2015 that you happen to know something, merely because the price happens to go down at one point that you were suggesting it.

That's just the short term call.  I still do not believe bitcoin has any future due to transaction validators being designed to centralize and it not being possible to create a decentralized digital currency in the first place.  So the only way the price can go up is not via fundamentals, but only by fraud or by govts trying to force it on people.

Yes.  Keep wishing, while both failing to recognize BTC fundamentals and wearing your PM blindfolds.

[JayJuanGee]

don't be writing just to write ?  

There is a concept called discretion, which involves personal choice(s).. and yes BIG words and ideas, in the case that you seem to be admitting to having difficulties understanding certain seemingly obvious points, connections and concepts (whether purposeful or not).

I doubt that you can determine arm-chair psychology in a sufficient enough manner to understand the purpose(s) behind any members posting behaviors, unless the member tells you, and surely reading a bunch of posts might not be enought to figure out what you are attempting to assert as your supposedly sage advice.

Anyhow, you seem to be dealing with a lot of insufficient information/knowledge and a considerable amount of presumption.

[JayJuanGee]

Just finished cleaning my bike. Thank you Bitcoin! 

Weren't you making some bitcoin consumption braggings just before one of the last exponential growths (like in the $700s)?   Yes.. an earlier Duccati, too.

 In other words, if you are again proclaiming bitcoin consumption and considering that others should sell now, that must mean BTC prices are inclined towards up.

[Phil_S]

Business idea:

[Elwar]

Was roach right all along? Time to read Mein Kempf?

You should read mein kampf regardless. Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

You can skip Mein Kampf.  A much better, modern discussion of the 'The Jewish Question' and why Jews are an evil cult that has to be expelled or exterminated to prevent them from destroying you and anything else they touch is Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy by Kevin MacDonald.  They aren't humans, they're anti-humans.  Anything they perceive as positive or beneficial for a group that is not them they see as something they need to destroy:

<img>What if I told you jpg</img>

That everyone who wants to manipulate a bunch of people to attack their enemy must first convince people that their enemy is not human.

It has happened throughout history with every culture that has gone to war.

Guess what? All humans are humans. Even <insert your leader's enemy here>

[realr0ach]

Pretty fucking obvious bitcoin is a govt backed Jew scam as well when France introduces vast new Orwellian internet censorship in order to try and stomp ONE SINGLE WEBSITE out of existence due to it being pro-white, anti-multiculturalism, and critical of the Jew:

https://dailystormer.name/stormer-volume-64-censorship-for-the-frogs/

You don't see them trying to implement ISP-level censorship of shitcoins, do you?  You don't see them trying to "de-platform" bitcoin apps simultaneously from the Google and Apple app stores like they do to Alex Jones either do you? Nope.  Because shitcoins are govt backed and promoted.  They want you using this garbage instead of physical metals to segue/bait and switch you into a cashless society control grid akin to the Chinese social credit score system.

[HairyMaclairy]

I don’t know what Roach is saying as I have him on ignore - but there is no point in discussing anything with him.

It is clear that he has some problems in his life that he does not want to take responsibility for but rather wants to blame on an external agency.  

He is beyond rational thought as dealing with these issues would require him to confront some uncomfortable truths about himself.

[JayJuanGee]

I don’t know what Roach is saying as I have him on ignore - but there is no point in discussing anything with him.

It is clear that he has some problems in his life that he does not want to take responsibility for but rather wants to blame on an external agency.  

He is beyond rational thought as dealing with these issues would require him to confront some uncomfortable truths about himself.

Huh?  Why would we necessarily conclude that he is even a real person, rather than being paid to either distract from the bitcoin topic or to pump various other off topic nonsense?

When topics are related to bitcoin, sometimes there can be usefulness in clarifying the nonsense that he is spouting out.  In other words, I cannot really agree with the ignore trolls argument.. because some people will get confused by their purposefully misleading (and even seemingly overlapping) talking points.

[Ibian]

I don’t know what Roach is saying as I have him on ignore - but there is no point in discussing anything with him.

It is clear that he has some problems in his life that he does not want to take responsibility for but rather wants to blame on an external agency.  

He is beyond rational thought as dealing with these issues would require him to confront some uncomfortable truths about himself.

If you believe that then why do you care? Why take the time to talk about him?

[Ibian]

Welp, my bank just screwed me. I have apparently been depositing too much fiat from private sales and they just told me no more. They are supposed to contact me with an official statement later today, but not expecting anything. This completely sucks.