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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.6%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.2%)
H1 2020 - 30 (19.1%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.8%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.6%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.7%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.5%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
Total Voters: 157

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November 23, 2018, 01:29:54 AM

One question guys.

Craig Wright and billionaire Calvin Ayre keep bragging about those 100+ patents they've got.
They say their Bitcoin SV is going to impose itself not only over the other Bitcoin Cash ABC, but even on Bitcoin (BTC) and that's due to those patents. They basically wanna play the same game huge companies have been successful with (see Mastercard, Apple).
Of course many of us (me included) hate this kind of behaviour, but I'd be interesting to hear your comments about the odds of them somehow making it because of those patents.
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November 23, 2018, 01:33:55 AM
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Most important technology since the invention of the internet being worth less in marketcap than Jeff Bezos's wealth, Bill Gates's wealth, even fucking Mark Zuckerberg's wealth lol

It's even lower than Uber in market cap. This shit doesn't even make sense anymore, which means that it has to be the bottom unless there is another level to retardation that I've never seen before
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November 23, 2018, 01:36:56 AM
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One question guys.

Craig Wright and billionaire Calvin Ayre keep bragging about those 100+ patents they've got.
They say their Bitcoin SV is going to impose itself not only over the other Bitcoin Cash ABC, but even on Bitcoin (BTC) and that's due to those patents. They basically wanna play the same game huge companies have been successful with (see Mastercard, Apple).
Of course many of us (me included) hate this kind of behaviour, but I'd be interesting to hear your comments about the odds of them somehow making it because of those patents.

Craight Wright is a compulsive liar, he claimed to be satoshi for crying out loud.  Make a transaction from a genesis block or fuck off.

I actually just watched an old interview with Calvin about his gambling businesses and it was fairly interesting. But I despise the gambling industry and their predatory behavior. Calvin has very deep pockets and it wouldn't surprise me if they have some new technology/ideas that could really shake things up.

I don't like Roger that much but I like him more than "doctor" Craig Wright and Calvin.

It seems very difficult for another coin to dethrone bitcoin at this point but it's not impossible.
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November 23, 2018, 01:37:01 AM

Most important technology since the invention of the internet being worth less in marketcap than Jeff Bezos's wealth, Bill Gates's wealth, even fucking Mark Zuckerberg's wealth lol

It's even lower than Uber in market cap. This shit doesn't even make sense anymore, which means that it has to be the bottom unless there is another level to retardation that I've never seen before

Most people throwing money at it don't care about any of that, or comprehend. All they want is more dollars. When they don't get them they toss their cookies. And the sharks milking them don't care about that either.
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November 23, 2018, 01:37:40 AM

oh lawd

I can't watch
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November 23, 2018, 01:44:27 AM
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Almost in the $3k's. There goes my crack speculation reputation again.
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November 23, 2018, 01:45:35 AM

hold me rosewater, I'm scared
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November 23, 2018, 01:46:25 AM

Almost in the $3k's. There goes my crack speculation reputation again.

At least we have our nice Hats... oh wait
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November 23, 2018, 01:48:10 AM

"#bitcoin's game theory where it's always cheaper to mine honest blocks for rewards instead of 51% attack, only works with rational thinkers...As millions of dollars have been burnt fighting between two forks of a fork of bitcoin have shown. Crazy breaks the checks and balances."
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November 23, 2018, 01:48:10 AM

At least we have our nice Hats... oh wait

They'll all go up for sale to pay for Christmas.
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November 23, 2018, 01:50:00 AM

Infofront, are you really meriting Eliott Wavers?  It's impossible for them to be correct because so much market activity is simply long and short squeezes.  If they are counting on some random bullshit to happen at X count, but the entire market is on the same side of the trade and long or short there, then the market is going the exact opposite way. 

It kind of falls back to the self fulfilling prophecy narrative that Eliott wave will work if every market maker on the planet uses that instead of something else (lol?).  But counts are also subjective on top of that, making it even worse.  Did I mention the inventor of Eliott wave died broke?

I like to merit TA here. I don't see much of a difference between EW and other analytical methods as far as your criticisms are concerned. If they work at all, none of them work in isolation. Those days died in the 80s.
Anyway, EW is one more tool that puts the past into context, and shows future possibilities.
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November 23, 2018, 01:51:24 AM

hold me rosewater, I'm scared

I'm a prickly mess. You wouldn't like it. Cry
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November 23, 2018, 01:56:55 AM
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No one is fucking buying? No more buy the fucking dip? No more bitcoin on the cheap?

Mmhhhh.....
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November 23, 2018, 01:57:28 AM

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November 23, 2018, 02:02:03 AM

No more buy the fucking dip?

At present would you not be buying yourself a fucking instead of a dip?
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November 23, 2018, 02:03:41 AM
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So Faketoshi (CSW) wants to have back Bitcoin v0.1.0 - what about the price too?
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November 23, 2018, 02:04:04 AM

No more buy the fucking dip?

At present would you not be buying yourself a fucking instead of a dip?

The dips have fucked me instead.
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November 23, 2018, 02:09:09 AM
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One question guys.

Craig Wright and billionaire Calvin Ayre keep bragging about those 100+ patents they've got.
They say their Bitcoin SV is going to impose itself not only over the other Bitcoin Cash ABC, but even on Bitcoin (BTC) and that's due to those patents. They basically wanna play the same game huge companies have been successful with (see Mastercard, Apple).
Of course many of us (me included) hate this kind of behaviour, but I'd be interesting to hear your comments about the odds of them somehow making it because of those patents.

Personally, in the facts scenario that you present, there seem to be a few more fundamental important questions beyond whether Craig and Calvin would ultimately be "successful" because that would be a real long game answer - and likely too difficult to answer without knowing interim developments which would seem to be the more important questions at the moment, such as:

1) is what they are saying really true... Do they actually have such patent (and financial backing) ammunition in place?

2)  assuming that 1) above is true, then are they ready, willing and able to play those cards (or just threatening to play them without any ability to follow through, which seems to be a kind of modus operandi of craig),

3) assuming they follow through with 2) above, would their efforts be effective (does bitcoin give a shit).  Maybe some aspects of dumb money cares (and perhaps temporarily) but when it comes down to actual bitcoin dynamics would bitcoin continue to grow in spite of whatever efforts that they attempt to make through various traditional legal institutions, and perhaps their efforts would even have the opposite effect to show that bitcoin does not give a shit

TLDR:  I would have to see some of this play out for a while, before I would take those loonies at their word... and not just short term downward BTC price manipulation that might not last much longer - but might not really be connected in any meaningful way to them, just that BTC price is correcting based on a variety of needs to purge a lot of the dumber money.. which could take a while with so many various shit coins and ICOs still holding some value and still pumping with every little sign of a possible BTC recovery.
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November 23, 2018, 02:10:50 AM

Most important technology since the invention of the internet being worth less in marketcap than Jeff Bezos's wealth, Bill Gates's wealth, even fucking Mark Zuckerberg's wealth lol

It's even lower than Uber in market cap. This shit doesn't even make sense anymore, which means that it has to be the bottom unless there is another level to retardation that I've never seen before

retardation in cryptolandia (which includes bitcoin in this case) seems to NOT have limits.
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November 23, 2018, 02:12:48 AM

One question guys.

Craig Wright and billionaire Calvin Ayre keep bragging about those 100+ patents they've got.
They say their Bitcoin SV is going to impose itself not only over the other Bitcoin Cash ABC, but even on Bitcoin (BTC) and that's due to those patents. They basically wanna play the same game huge companies have been successful with (see Mastercard, Apple).
Of course many of us (me included) hate this kind of behaviour, but I'd be interesting to hear your comments about the odds of them somehow making it because of those patents.

I truly cannot believe anyone with a sparking cerebral cortex could think centralising and patenting a system that solely drives its value from being beyond that thinks anyone other than themselves would have the slightest interest in it.

Why would you use a hobbled and clunky Craigcoin when you have a perfectly usable Mastercard?
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