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[jojo69]

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media".

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[Dig Bicks]

sick of these idiots that say "this is not investment advice" then they proceed to give investment advice.

Did the doctor order you to follow this thread?

Not talking about this thread just people on youtube and twitter.

[bitserve]

I believe Searing's hypothesis about MtGox selling everything before 2019 may be true. Price could continue going down all month.

They only need to sell above $1k or so. So buckle up.




And then...

You mean Kobayashi selling more Bitcoins? That is pretty unlikely.

[Dig Bicks]

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways and satellites.

Honestly I would rather live in hunter gatherer times. Before agriculture started

Suicide was practically non existent among indigenous tribes.  It's clear that modern society is ruining peoples mental health and happiness.

[El duderino_]

Probably just a monday thing.... many dumb F*** selling idiotes cause there angry @the start of the week

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.

I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.

http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

Which part didn't you understand? The better things are and the longer it goes on the worse it will be when it all ends.

I understand what you're saying, but I'm not aware of a single case in which that stroke true.

Civilizations that imploded generally didn't just up and vanish, they became part of a civilization under a different name. Generally ones that start off better than the imploded generation did, with a higher peak of prosperity than the one before.

If humanity doesn't get instantly wiped out I'll just use what I worked for to relocate and not run into any of the problems you mention, as did others before me for quite literally all of human history.

[Dig Bicks]

The past few decades has seen wealth inequality grow RAPIDLY.  Suicide rates are skyrocketing, drug use is rampant, people are unhealthy.  Younger generations can't even afford houses anymore

What world are you living in if you say life has never been better?  Ya these iphone and itablets bring true joy to our lives..........................

[d_eddie]

Capitulation is definitely in, every post is that crypto is going down and nothing can stop it. Coindesk is declaring it crypto winter and we need to wuick looking at the price. People are memeing that Bitcoin is just a downward ride.

It's here and we may have already hit bottom or not but we're fucking close with that continuous Doom and gloom mindset.

We won't have capitulated until we stop talking about capitulation. We won't have bottommed until we stop talking about bottoms.

Which includes bottom pictures?  

[gembitz]

 

weeeeeeeeeee

[d_eddie]

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways and satellites.

Honestly I would rather live in hunter gatherer times. Before agriculture started

But they only lived 40 years if they were lucky.

Suicide was practically non existent among indigenous tribes.  It's clear that modern society is ruining peoples mental health and happiness.

There wasn't much time to think about suicide is my guess.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I start to think that maybe we, humans, set ourselves on some kind of a suicide path.

I don't want to sound like Ibian, but we probably have headed our boat for catastrophe. Not much we can do now though. May as well enjoy Rome before it burns.

I don't understand what makes people subscribe to this narrative. What makes you think that we're heading for disaster when just about everything has been getting better on average for the past however many decades?

I'm more worried about a meteor smashing earth than humans fucking anything up before someone banking on a solution for whatever problem. And I'm not really worried at all.

http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

History repeats. It's much like the seasons, every time is different but the overall pattern remains. Things are shit, people make them better, then things turn to shit again. And the longer peace and prosperity reigns, the harder the fall.

All the signs are there. It will likely be a soviet style collapse, but this time on a large scale.

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

Which part didn't you understand? The better things are and the longer it goes on the worse it will be when it all ends.

As BITCOINMILLIONAIRE said, even if we were on the verge of an implosion/collapse, we would still end better than we were a few decades ago. It's not like we are going to go back to stone age.

Do you understand what a soviet style collapse implies?

Stalin, 50 million dead. Mao, even more, maybe as high as 100 million. Cambodia, a full third of the population died. And on and on. Two hundred million corpses give or take.

The EU wants an army, and at this rate they will get it. It will be used against the civilian population, just as the above gentlemen did.

Thousands of migrants are heading to the US border. They will be gunned down if they try to cross, or more will come, and it will never stop. In europe they are already here and entrenched. EU wants to make criticism of immigration illegal, and again, it will likely happen.

And of course we all know how the economy is doing.

If the US ends up losing its global leadership position, that will lead to chaos on a global scale as the power vacuum is filled by someone else.

It's a perfect storm of all the things that can go wrong all at once, and there are no positives of any meaningful impact.

The economy is doing fantastic. All those numbers are pretty irrelevant. Fact is, we have shit that kings a few decades ago couldn't have dreamed of. And at prices so low that even the lowest of plebs can afford them.

The probability of another soviet style collapse taking place in the west is also very low, much more so if you'd insist on a collapse of the entire western world simultaneously. Hence, in the worst case event that you imply there's room to relocate for anyone who prepared accordingly and then some.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

My one hope for crypto is that a big fat fish like amazon starts taking crypto as payment.. What we all really want. Is for Bitcoin to become the one and ONLY worldwide currency!

Why do you think that if people had the option to pay for things on Amazon with bitcoins that they would?

Would you?

Yes. Because I'd keep less in fiat due to ease of conversion despite the volatility.

[d_eddie]

(snip)

Which includes bottom pictures?  

That's what I'm here for, I followed booty pictures on Google images and accidentally ended up being invested into crypto and stressing about price on the daily.

Well, a few OT posts about daily prices etc are tolerated here, as long as we do post our mandatory bottoms when they're due. Or when they aren't, for that matter.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it

Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.

Your analogy is lost on me.

I prefer monogamy, given a proper candidate, over fucking around. Trading shitcoins can be nice and all, but at the end I would prefer a decent partner and family. YMMV

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

as if 90% of us wouldn't behave the same way given the opportunity

Fuck no we absolutely would not post that shit to social media with our personal brands splashed across it

Fucking whores and bitches is the equivalent of picking a basket of shitcoins over the one true Bitcorn.

Your analogy is lost on me.

You have a great time jizzing a load of money away on nothing important. Occasionally you get a freebie or build up an affiliation. Your one twu luv is unaffected except that you might build up your skills and not make the same mistakes there.

Thanks. I guess my frame of reference was off, as I think twu luvs and soulmates are fictional.

I see nothing wrong with a rich guy blowing his money on whores for his entire life, if he wants. It seemed to have worked out well for Hef.

I do believe that they are. But that doesn't mean that you can't invest the same amount of resources into a relationship as you do into assets or life skills.

For reference, I don't see anything wrong with that lifestyle either. I just prefer treating every aspect of my life roughly the same, which is giving it my all if I actually bother to pursue at all.

[nutildah]

Most males are jealous of these rich playboys that have sluts lining up to fuck them.

Sluts lining up to fuck them... for money. Worth being jealous of? I suppose but only if you're the type to get jealous about another man's possessions, that he paid for.

I swear you are just some other member's troll account. Like severe troll hard mode account.

Meanwhile in BTC news: we're only $300 above the year low  

That's what I'm here for, I followed booty pictures on Google images and accidentally ended up being invested into crypto and stressing about price on the daily.

 

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

why to sell new money for old money - the mind boggles  

people don't sell, do this only manipulators

People definitely sell, the goal is end with more than you started and without trading ever you only have hope and timing on when you spend.

I trade, but with a small fraction of my hodl stash. There's certainly more money to be made in trading than in hodling, but it's not an easy path at all and in most cases one is best advised to not try to play the market game.

I love the challenge though and appreciate all the things that I learn in a roundabout way by trying to improve my trading skills. Regardless of whether or not it pays financially.

[jbreher]

No. The term is not bitcoin+cash+sv, it is bitcoin+sv. And it is trending currently at 100.

Even if it were 86, you are still making my point for me.

Wrong again breher. It peaked in search popularity on November 26th. You just insist on peddling falsehoods don't you, or else you just sincerely love being wrong about things. To each their own...

Its currently at 29 BTW:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%201-m&q=Bitcoin%20SV

Well, I'll admit I don't know much about Google Trends. But it certainly looks like my claim is indeed correct. Remove superfluous qualifier from the query string:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Bitcoin%20SV

...and the value is 100.

More germane - even if it were 29, you are still making my point for me.

[Hexah]

The day of mourning again for hodlers. 3k is gonna be the bottom I guess.

[bitserve]

C'on Ibian, we have never in history lived better than we do for the past few decades. Or can you point out any moment in time you would have better preferred to live?

this depends entirely on the metrics you measure your quality of life with.  Also, as always, social class has a great influence.

I think I would be perfectly happy as a petty aristocrat in Roman Britain for example.  For many, a life in a clean and abundant environment with actual unclaimed wonder over the horizon would be far preferable to today's dystopian prison web of interstate highways, satellites and "social media".

Well, I am sure you would be happy if you were so lucky as to land on the good side of the coin and you weren't already used to how we do live today. Most people weren't as lucky, as differences between "classes" were way more significant than nowadays.

But yeah, let's assume you are one of those aristocrats and compare what they had in comparison to what every average person has nowadays:

PROS:
- The difference between you and plebs are HUGE, so you feel privileged.
- You can even abuse lower classes with almost or no consequences.
- Anything else?

CONS:
- Your life expectancy is WAY lower than nowadays.... It is very probable you would already be dead.
- Even if you have way more and better food than the plebs, it is nothing in comparison to what every average joe can have nowadays.
- You are always at high risk of: Being ill and die, being attacked and die, being ....... and die. Death is just around every corner.
- You can be easily abused by anyone of higher class than you.
- Everything technology related: Air conditioning, fridges, cars, planes, ...
- ...

- And there was no Bitcoin.

No, really, it is hard to compare such different social environments, but if we just go like 50 or 80 years ago it is easier to see that what is considered "poor" today in a first world country still has a better lifestyle than most of the "rich" then.

We live much longer, we have more and better food, more and better clothes, ... better quality of life in essence. If anything, today's problem is that we have everything at our disposal so we are never satisfied and want much more (which is probably a human feature anyways).