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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
Total Voters: 156

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December 17, 2018, 11:35:17 PM

Well boys, did we just have a small bear trap close and trap those sneaky bears? I haven't seen one of those in quite a while.
I like this. At least, my long got some relief and my short a higher entry point. I hope more relief is coming. My gut tells me we're not done with suffering yet, though. Strictly SOMA, of course.
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December 17, 2018, 11:36:56 PM

lets hope we bottomed already,


to many people say we did not bottom yet,



That's how BTC works - it does the opposite of what we predict  Grin
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December 17, 2018, 11:38:27 PM

$3,467

Fucking going down again.

3.5k brother
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December 17, 2018, 11:40:08 PM

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December 17, 2018, 11:41:14 PM
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December 17, 2018, 11:47:37 PM

Bitmex has the futures still in backwardation (under spot price), the further the expiry date the lower the price. Still bearish IMO.
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December 17, 2018, 11:49:40 PM

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December 17, 2018, 11:50:11 PM

Bitmex has the futures still in backwardation (under spot price), the further the expiry date the lower the price. Still bearish IMO.

Nah. It's completely safu now. People are already longing at 80x! You worry too much.
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December 17, 2018, 11:55:40 PM

Bitmex has the futures still in backwardation (under spot price), the further the expiry date the lower the price. Still bearish IMO.

Nah. It's completely safu now. People are already longing at 80x! You worry too much.

In my defense, cross margin can bamboozle you sometimes.
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December 18, 2018, 12:02:22 AM
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Guess who is officially a hat wearer now?

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December 18, 2018, 12:08:36 AM

Guess who is officially a hat wearer now?

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 Yeah buoy!!
Looking good.
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December 18, 2018, 12:09:26 AM

I am not sure why the rally's upward feel so good with bitcoin, but its undeniable imho.

Congratulations player one..you leveled up!  Breakout and retrace back to $3.6kish. Probable consolidation at the 0.786 fib. Full Bull to the 1.618 and $3.8k+ is in sight.
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December 18, 2018, 12:23:46 AM
Last edit: December 18, 2018, 12:56:13 AM by bitserve

I have decided to write about what have been my errors during the past bull run and subsequent downtrend till now.
...<good stuff>...
I am writing this as advice for my future self, but hope it gets useful to someone else. Will continue.

What I learned this blowoff top cycle:

When selling enough to cover Your Personal Lambo[tm], make the increment to cover the taxes part of the same tx. Lest you be required to part with more Corn for such necessity that you otherwise would. Worst case, you've got a bigger pile of stinky fiat than you need.

Yeah, very good advice.

One of the posts I plan to make about my mistakes regards to taxes or, better yet, decisions I made trying to (legally) avoid taxes that in the end were (much) worse than the taxes would had been.
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December 18, 2018, 12:52:59 AM

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https://www.coindesk.com/enough-with-the-ico-me-so-horny-get-rich-quick-lambo-crypto

There’s a real possibility that all the noise about “governance,” “regulation” and “blockchain” will effectively create a surveillance state, a dossier society.

I think Satoshi would barf. Or at least work on a replacement for bitcoin as he first described it in 2008-2009. I cannot give a ringing endorsement to where we are


In other words, he says the exact same thing I do, except he somehow can't figure out that it's 100% impossible to create a decentralized digital currency (or just lies about it) and that we should be using physical silver and gold instead of this garbage.  All the programmers and cypher-whatevers are trying to maintain some type of relevance, and programming + cryptography skills have no relevance if everyone just uses physical metals.  There's nothing to work on.  It just works.
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December 18, 2018, 01:00:07 AM

EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION TO ME!

HOLY SHIT. I ACCIDENTALLY LONGED AT 80x instead of 8x AT 3237. Talk about a lucky day! Of course I noticed my mistake but by the time I could correct it, we were impaled on a fast green dildo!



 Not bad.  So the beer's on you tonight?


Maybe not tonight. I am hanging on to this long for a while like a bad gambler with an alcohol addiction. Still kind of hoping for another pumperino. Bollinger band constricting, Palms are sweaty
Knees weak, arms are heavy
Vomit on my sweater already
Mom's spaghetti

Wait, what? So you opened an 80x margin long by mistake, got the extreme luck that the price went in your favor and instead of thank the gods and close it and reopen with a more sane leverage you decide to... what? Let it go until you get rekt?
y house gone

How do you guys think Arthur can buy a lambo for each day of the year?

Long live the degenerated gamblers  Grin

Nice dildo, but i wouldnt party before we go above 4,6 :/
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December 18, 2018, 01:06:29 AM
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r0ach, all that insistence about silver and gold is great.... But why don't you come back when we are well into the next bull run?

We are poor now and need more bitcoins. We got no money nor time for that posh stuff.
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December 18, 2018, 01:14:31 AM

Here is an interesting opinion of Jim Rogers (which I completely disagree with, but i always like to listen to what opponents say):

https://youtu.be/tNSXWkApxU8?t=410

He basically says that if bitcoin/crypto would be successful, government can simply abolish it like England abolished scrip in the 30ies by making trading NOT in Bank of England notes (pounds) a TREASON.
Don't simply dismiss this, hopefully, wrong notion because he is an old fogie since this is Jim Rogers, again, who happens to know about commodity markets quite a bit.
He is not short, but not long either and acknowledges that he might be wrong in his skepticism.

I think that he is wrong because bitcoin provides a standard/reference point, is apolitical and not 'owned' by a particular government plus could accelerate the commerce in due course.
Being neutral would make it resistant to the moves that he described, unless there is cooperation among G20.
What do you guys think?
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December 18, 2018, 01:19:50 AM

Here is an interesting opinion of Jim Rogers (which I completely disagree with, but i always like to listen to what opponents say):

https://youtu.be/tNSXWkApxU8?t=410

He basically says that if bitcoin/crypto would be successful, government can simply abolish it like England abolished scrip in the 30ies bymaking trading NOT in bank of england notes (pounds) a TREASON.
Don't simply dismiss this, hopefully, wrong notion, because he is an old fogie since this is Jim Rogers, again, who happens to know about commodity markets quite a bit.
He is not short, but not long either. Acknowledges that he might be wrong in his skepticism.

I think that he is wrong because bitcoin provides a standard/reference point, is apolitical and not 'owned' by a particular government plus could accelerate the commerce in due course.
Being neutral would make it resistant to the moves that he described, unless there is cooperation among G20.
What do you guys think?


Yes, it is perfectly "possible".

But... why would they? Bitcoin have some features that may even be good for them.

Also, before simply banning it, there are lots of intermediate steps:

- Specific taxes
- Mandatory report of Bitcoin holdings
- Whitelisting only on fiat ramps
- etc....

So, even IF any of that would happen it would take many years. I am not worried yet.
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December 18, 2018, 01:28:21 AM

Yeah... unh... I dunno. 'Round these parts, $1M in savings is kinda wage slave money. What with the widest accepted annual drawdown on the order of 4%, that be like $40K annual before taxes.

I added the plus for those who see it as chicken feed. We had a member here from Switzerland who said it wasn't even enough to wipe his arse with apparently.   
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