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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 2 (1.8%)
<$6,500 - 7 (6.1%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.9%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.8%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.6%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3.5%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (10.5%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (11.4%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (9.6%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 10 (8.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 9 (7.9%)
>$9,500 - 15 (13.2%)
$20,000 - 7 (6.1%)
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January 05, 2019, 10:28:28 AM

20%-30% of not happening I will have to deal with that...

I am going to do the most risky bet of my life (which is not much to say as I am extremely conservative) based on that perception. Wish me luck Smiley

I will probably be ok even if I am wrong or things doesn't happen as I do expect as the most probable outcome.

Careful.   We may go much lower in the interim.  Do not put yourself in a position where you are overinvested and feel you have to cut your losses.  Only invest what you are prepared to hold firmly until well after next halvening.  

If you want to be conservative, wait until we break the long term bear line.  2014 suggests we will break it around this price level in October 2019.  

I was clearly overinvested  in Q4 2017. I can hodl it all right now.

I am just going to morgtage again, for second time in my life, for another property that I feel it is clearly well under market price. My regular income cannot cover it, but I do have enough FIAT savings to pay it for almost 10 years even with no income and without having to sell my Bitcoins.

I guess the worst that it could happen is that I would need to sell the property (probably for more than I am buying it)

As I said I am extremely conservative, but it is more risky bet I have ever made in my life. Wouldn't like to have to sell my Bitcoins at a "bad price". But I can perfectly hodl for 5+ years no matter what.

It's just that I thought I would never buy anything on debt/mortgage again (already paid my main home).... but sometimes you don't have any choice if you don't want to miss the train.

If Bitcoin pumps sometime in the next 5 years I will have made the best decision in my life. If it doesn't, I will probably have to sell the property. Hopefully not losing any money, but it will be a failure for me.

Sorry to go into granular details, but if your income cannot support that second (presumably larger) property, how do you know that they will give you a loan?
Based on what? Your savings? Last time I refi, they were real bastards about everything.



Good question. I will ask my father to endorse (is that the right word when a person gets responsible if I don't pay?) me. He (and the bank) knows I have another fully paid property (which is slightly more expensive btw), I ALSO have enough fiat savings to cover more than half of the price of the second one (not counting Bitcoin). Plus the appraisal of the property will probably show way higher value than buying value.

I assume that's enough to approve the loan. I am in a WAY better position than last (first) time, which I already finished paying after 20 years.


I know you recently, but you seem responsible  Cool, but do not involve your father in this financial operation, banks are like the devil.
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January 05, 2019, 10:33:12 AM

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as NOCOINERS or silver parasites are Roll Eyes
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Of course you should not sell your shitcoins.  If the scamming Jews at Bitfinex can get people to do a capitulation dump, they will then artificially rig the market to the moon right afterwards to try and get those people to buy back in higher.  That's how the price went to $20k in the first place, the "China and Russia are banning shitcoins" scare dump.  If they can get nobody to dump en masse and we can maintain an army of hodlers ready to dump on whoever attempts to pump it, price goes nowhere and the imaginary, valueless, digital token scam dies.  Then we can all go back to physical metals again.
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https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-payments-merchants-crypto-art

BTC getting used more and more

keep spreading Grin
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January 05, 2019, 10:51:53 AM

(which is slightly more expensive btw)
Fella getting a new (Icelandic) pied-à-terre

Looks like it'll hold its value just fine.
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Of course you should not sell your shitcoins.  If the scamming Jews at Bitfinex can get people to do a capitulation dump, they will then artificially rig the market to the moon right afterwards to try and get those people to buy back in higher.  That's how the price went to $20k in the first place, the "China and Russia are banning shitcoins" scare dump.  If they can get nobody to dump en masse and we can maintain an army of hodlers ready to dump on whoever attempts to pump it, price goes nowhere and r0ach wins.

so r0ach, fair question, are you that big of a winner in life?
to much hate running through your nazi, womanless core man.....
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January 05, 2019, 10:53:07 AM

Morning WO's.

Hey shithead, I was amazed to see some charts in your posts - conveniently of course showing off your metal mental illness.
How about these r0achie:

ALL TIME CHARTS, silver:

:: BTC


Look similar enough?
It would seem that BTC is crushing it over a much shorter period of time. You of all morons can see that.

But it is not your shilling about metals that motivates me to gag you.
Your attitude towards women is what really rings my bells. Well that & you being a Nazi lover fascist pig.

You seem to forget that a woman brought you to life (we all make mistakes here).
Didn't she breast feed you or something? Is she proud of your beliefs & what you have become? Was she ever?
Could be wrong of course, & your existence could be a sick Nazi experiment - going South and evolving into a Jewish experiment. Wink

Not expecting an answer, just go and suck yourself off.

Rekt! Well done!
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January 05, 2019, 10:58:54 AM

so r0ach, fair question, are you that big of a winner in life?

Are you not intelligent enough to figure out it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency at all?  That transaction validators are always designed to centralize in every single one, and the only possible endgame of a digital currency will be an enslavement tool controlled by the govt resembling the Chinese social credit score system?  

Even if transaction validators weren't designed to centralize (an impossible hurdle to fix), the simple act of tokens being non-fungible would probably still give you that result.  You need to be a flat out drooling idiot to shill for imaginary, valueless, digital tracking tokens over physical metals.  Why do you think people like Ben Bernanke and Larry Summers promote them?  This thread and the entire cryptocurrency industry is composed of 1/2 dumbasses and 1/2 people who would sell their soul to the devil for a nickel.
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They are gentlemen, respectful, educated, but also hard with those who do not behave properly, this is the success of WO.

Of course they like Bitcoin, good food, good drink and more. Wink

Welcome to WO.

you forgot good drugs. only the finest will do.


Speaking of which...

And good women.

I also said and more

Drugs and Girls for WO.

Probably ended up with something else in his mouth.



Some girls who want to party with members of WO, they seem nice.





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January 05, 2019, 11:03:29 AM

so r0ach, fair question, are you that big of a winner in life?

Are you not intelligent enough to figure out it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency at all?  That transaction validators are always designed to centralize in every single one, and the only possible endgame of a digital currency will be an enslavement tool controlled by the govt resembling the Chinese social credit score system?  

Even if transaction validators weren't designed to centralize (an impossible hurdle to fix), the simple act of tokens being non-fungible would still give you that result.  You need to be a flat out drooling idiot to shill for imaginary, valueless, digital tracking tokens over physical metals.  Why do you think people like Ben Bernanke and Larry Summers promote them?  This thread and the entire cryptocurrency industry is composed of 1/2 dumbasses and 1/2 people who would sell their soul to the devil for a nickel.

Soooooo, your the only smart guy in a whole thread with i don't know how many members??

and the question was ^
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Nice, I have not one, but TWO anti-sound money (physical metals), pro-fake money (imaginary, valueless digital tokens) paid call center stalkers now.  You guys should switch up your propaganda some to not make it so obvious. There's very few people in bitcoin who are actually anti-metals.  The fact both of you newbie account clowns start spam post attacking me while pushing the same, scripted NPC narrative is too obvious.

Most of the planet has shifted far right towards alt-right ideology now as well.  Anyone who isn't a flat out liar knows that barely anyone in this thread cared about me calling for the expelling of Jews from all nations before I was anti-digital currency.  They only cared about that afterwards because it hurts their bottom line.  Having not one, but two of you flood the thread with the exact same pro-political correctness, pro-marxism, anti-metals, NPC narrative isn't going to fool anyone.  And since, as you claim, I am typing from a basement, I can outlast both of you clown's attacks with ease!

Virgin Roach, we have a much larger team on the Jewish payroll than you think. We have been experimenting on you for years.

https://abc13.com/sheriff-releases-sketch-of-7-year-old-jazmine-barnes-killer/5008399/

If you shot this black family Virgin Roach we will be arresting you soon. It happened when our camera system monitoring you was down.

As for outlasting us, there is no wifi in the insane assylum. And once you suicide when the brand new bull market brings us to 100k, well if there is an afterlife there wont be any wifi in hell  either Cheesy

Oh yeah, dont pretend Bitcoin isnt the soundest hardest money ever created. Metals are primitive relics useful for bagholding.

And its not your basement......

ITS YOUR MUMMY'S Grin
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so r0ach, fair question, are you that big of a winner in life?

Are you not intelligent enough to figure out it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency at all?  That transaction validators are always designed to centralize in every single one, and the only possible endgame of a digital currency will be an enslavement tool controlled by the govt resembling the Chinese social credit score system?  

Even if transaction validators weren't designed to centralize (an impossible hurdle to fix), the simple act of tokens being non-fungible would still give you that result.  You need to be a flat out drooling idiot to shill for imaginary, valueless, digital tracking tokens over physical metals.  Why do you think people like Ben Bernanke and Larry Summers promote them?  This thread and the entire cryptocurrency industry is composed of 1/2 dumbasses and 1/2 people who would sell their soul to the devil for a nickel.

Soooooo, your the only smart guy in a whole thread with i don't know how many members??

Most humans are compartmentalized, retard savants only good at doing a small subset of tasks due to human specialization of labor.  Yea, there are some 'well-trained' retard savants on the forum who are good at some random thing like assembly, but being good at assembly doesn't convey universal knowledge about everything.  

Probably the main reason these people you make believe are smart get this subject so wrong is due to the god complex most programmers have.  They make believe any problem can just be coded around and that there's no such thing as an unsolvable problem.  I used to believe the same thing about bitcoin, as well as people like Anonymint.  Then I started noticing things like it doesn't even solve the Byzantine generals problem; they attempted to change the syntax to "bitcoin solves a form of the Byzantine generals problem" to try and somewhat cover up this inconvenient truth.

Then from there I said it's really not possible to create a decentralized digital currency and attempting to hard code a fixed number of transaction validators (the crap Dan Larimer does) would probably be the only half ass thing that can come from any of this, but none of it is actually decentralized and has no purpose over metals.  Anonymint then started also posting it's not possible to create a decentralized digital currency, and even one of the founders of Zerohedge posted on here saying the only reason he reads the forum is to read posts from me + Anonymint.  

We have discussed these topics for years, and the only real argument left is that Anonymint claims he has some secret way to make a decentralized digital currency, but he really doesn't.  It's 100% impossible to make one.
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Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.

100%

200%
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Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.

100%

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As long as a Bread is still costing around 2-3 bucks and not a 1000 bucks Then its all fine by me.....
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Yum, I made this.  Cheesy






I spot Some high class cookery in the thread, Nice job man, also like the slippers with the stars there Grin

Very Nice saignant cooked Grin

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January 05, 2019, 11:38:12 AM

... but wtf is JJG?

VR type holidays, sponsored by BTC Tongue

Nice, I have not one, but TWO....bla bla bullshit.

Wow you've got me. You are so SMART!(not) Undecided

I explained my motive r0ach, so it's only yourself to blame.
I can read all day about you stuffing silver up your ass, but I cannot read your misanthropy misogyny posts. Not in here anyway.

Indulge us the favor & do fuck off.


Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.
100%
200%
400% - it's exponential Grin
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Why do you think I'm here?  Roll Eyes

You don't need a reason to be here, but in this rather male place, you're welcome.  Mic is a one of the linchpins of this thread and well-liked.  As the lady who he has spoken of highly, you have an automatic AAA pass.

If you choose to stay and join in, you will do this place a service.  So don't feel a stranger among this band of eccentric vagabonds, although maybe get Mic to show you where the ignore button is, one or two people here are really not worth reading Wink

The AAA pass is an honour!
Thanks for the tip  Wink
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January 05, 2019, 12:16:41 PM

Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.
100.1%
No, really. Even 100% would be way too much.

Really.

Next four years ? That's an eternity for Bitcorn.

Considering that the next block halving will occur before the next four years, it's simple math and supply/demand that we'll be above $10k before then.

I BELIEVE !!!
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