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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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January 06, 2019, 03:06:18 AM

And as a single anecdotal data point, I steadfastly resisted iOS, waiting for years for Android to solve their audio latency issues. I finally gave up. Maybe today, you can run music apps such as soft synths, DAWs, drum machines, etc. on Android. Back when I made the switch, the unbounded variable latency made it impossible on Android, no matter the manufacturer.

For all I know, you still can't, at least with the stock OS. It simply wasn't designed with realtime in mind. I think there was some experimental kernel that supposedly took care of that, but I never checked it out.

However, I use my phone mostly for... uh, calls and some texts.

Dude... An iPhone running $100 worth of apps from Korg (for example) is synth sound generation capability we couldn't have dreamed of at any price even in dedicated HW little more than a decade ago. Add a couple free metronome and tuner apps, serious memo recorder for capturing ideas, guitar amp sims (external converter desired - impedance mismatch between pickups and mic input make for lousy signal), drum machines, MIDI remappers, BandHelper, ... it just goes on and on.

The miracle of personal computers is that they do more than Fortran calculations - they've become incredible multipurpose extensions of our personal capabilities. And the miracle of smartphones is that they do more than make phone calls - they're general purpose computers with a full suite of IO that's with you at all times.

Hmm... this branch took kind of a weird turn, considering all I really wanted to say was 'I can understand that choice of platform is a singular thing, but to call Apple products flawed incapable garbage is nonsense'. Smiley
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Apple products are expensive. You can tell that just by looking at the high margins they have, which they do have thanks to economies of scale that go directly to their profits account instead of a lower price for the customer. Other than that, Apple products are excellent.
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January 06, 2019, 03:19:44 AM

@jbreher, are you talking BTC or the bit'alts ? to hit that 100K ?

My hope is that it would be SV. As time goes by, hope diminishes. I will continue to think big blocks is the proper scaling solution regardless of the outcome.

If SV or ABC hit anything approaching 100k, I win extra-bigly. If BTC approaches 100K, I win something less bigly. Either way, future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.

Good you keep on the originals as well.....


He probably has way more BTC than most people here... Of course that is just MY speculation.

P.S.: For sure he also has huge heaps more Bcash (both flavours) than anyone else here Smiley
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It appears shitcoiners are still trying to trick people into believing shitcoins are made of physical gold instead of being imaginary, valueless tokens.
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January 06, 2019, 07:44:02 AM

wtf, more and more people are arguing with roach. at least stop quoting him or risk getting ignored by the rest of us WO's.

^^^ Please.
This place can be vaguely entertaining and informative when the drivel is removed.

Yes. A high % of drivel here atm.

Although roach is bigoted and some of his theories are wild, a lot of the replies are pointless ad hominem attacks.. To an impartial observer who has no opinion to start with,  roach's posts might have a semblance of logic.

Is this akin to the de-platforming of extremist views ? Should free speech be aired in order to debate both the wrong and the right ideas ?

If posters really must reply, at least engage with the points made, or ignore.

Optimistically, a high % of nonsense posts could (maybe) indicate we are in the bottom-forming phase.

"To an impartial observer who has no opinion to start with,  roach's posts might have a semblance of logic." LOL wut?!

I notice more posts urging Virgin Roach responders to self censor than actually urging to censor Virgin Roach. If people really are annoyed with him and want to censor him, than why not all get together and request infofront ban him. If you want to let him have free speech than why all the debbie downer chastising of those who gallantly engage with him in the name of the mighty King Bitcoin. Surely we deserve to have our say.

If you insist on letting the insane drunk at the bar act a fool, then dont guilt trip patrons of the bar for smashing his head against the wall when he acts up.

I also notice the same posters trying to get people to stop engaging him are also short term bearish and calling for new lows(maybe shorting on the sly too ehh..) Roll Eyes.

It seems to be the "hell no muthafucka we aint going under 3k Cool" believers taking on Virgin Roach atm.

In a bear market sure, its cool to sit back and let Virgin Roach drivel on about BTC heading to zero, but the Bull Market is here in many peoples opinions and its time to feed him estrogen and experiment on him as we head to 100k. Also my Jewish employers dont just pay me Bitcoin to hit the ignore button on their arch enemy ya know.

Now fight me! Wink

JK. But, the beatings will continue until Virgin Roach visits Israel and Africa.
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January 06, 2019, 07:44:18 AM

Apple products are expensive. You can tell that just by looking at the high margins they have, which they do have thanks to economies of scale that go directly to their profits account instead of a lower price for the customer. Other than that, Apple products are excellent.

The base iPad is actually pretty competitively priced for the hardware (which is a shame because I loathe Apple).
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January 06, 2019, 07:52:08 AM

Just curious... What you guys would say is the probability YOU give to Bitcoin to be over $10.000 at any moment during the next 4 years? honestly.
100.1%
No, really. Even 100% would be way too much.

Really.

Next four years ? That's an eternity for Bitcorn.

Considering that the next block halving will occur before the next four years, it's simple math and supply/demand that we'll be above $10k before then.

I BELIEVE !!!

Yeah but 100% doesn't exist in anything. Otherwise you would just sell everything and put it into Bitcoin again. Let's just say you consider a 95% chance? That is still a fucking awesome asymmetric bet!

https://www.businessinsider.nl/didi-taihuttu-sold-everything-for-bitcoin-fans-2017-12/?international=true&r=US

He's the famous man everyone knows from the news in Belgium & the Netherlands. Sold everything (incl his house) to invest in BTC . Some think he's insane, some think he's brilliant.

I think he is sorta insane no matter what the outcome is. If Bitcoin goes to $100K and he is able to hodl until then some would say he was brilliant... not me. There is high probability the outcome will be good, but still it does look like a very risky/insane thing to do. I wish him all the luck of course!

The guy is a genius. He has garnered a lot of attention and social media following via the MSM news articles about his sacrifice to King Bitcoin soon to be ruler of the 100k throne. His monetizing of social media as he documents the adventures and experiences of his family Im sure will more than pay for any loss he might ever incur.
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January 06, 2019, 08:00:58 AM

'Deadly' is an understatement.  I just spent 3 days carefully pumping years of data into Cointracker and it has left me in horror.  Apparently I am liable for more than I took out by a large amount of money, as it says I made such huge 'profits' from trading in the 17/18 tax year that if I use this software to declare it, it will render me effectively destitute.  

You need to be a complete fucking idiot to use a centralized, non-fungible token that abolishes the 5th amendment and pretend it's money instead of what it actually is - a government tracking and control system.

No, any mentally healthy person understands Bitcoin is the best money ever and 100k is inevitable. Complete fucking idiots think Jews and blacks are persecuting them and women wont speak to them bc they are all sociopaths.  Roll Eyes

Complete fucking idiots also make terrible investment choices, like selling all their Bitcoins in 2015 and buying Silver, a dead money investment.  Cry

Complete fucking idiots usually dont handle life failure well and later on morph into the mentally ill. The mentally ill that dont have a mummy's basement to hide in end up panhandling on the streets after a few years. Wink
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Apple products are expensive. You can tell that just by looking at the high margins they have, which they do have thanks to economies of scale that go directly to their profits account instead of a lower price for the customer. Other than that, Apple products are excellent.

The base iPad is actually pretty competitively priced for the hardware (which is a shame because I loathe Apple).

I don't like the pricing on apple products especially after iphone x came out. I don't like many things like they are removing 3.5mm jack, asking shitloads of money for a damn cable etc...

2 things I like about apple though.

First one is IOS. I am an Iphone 6s user and damn thing works just like on the day I bought it. Android phones from the same year can't even lift a finger now. They are slow as fuck nowadays. Android just dies in time.

Second one is the quality of the multimedia parts. People usually think this as phone cameras (and they are mostly right) but I am talking about the sound.

Years ago when I was playing guitar more actively, my prother had an iphone 4s and it was possible to simulate amplifiers on that small shit. (Amplitube) I wanted it on my android phone too so I bought an irig and plugged it in my Sony phone. The delay was like 5 seconds. Then I learned none of the android phones had the same quality sound card as Apple products did. None. Not a single one.

That's the day I figured out the difference between generic Chinese crap and Apple. I'll probably be using my 6s till it fails. None of the android phones can come close to it.

Edit: Yeah thanks to yefi now I remembered. The bloatware on android phones are just Disgusting.

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'Deadly' is an understatement.  I just spent 3 days carefully pumping years of data into Cointracker and it has left me in horror.  Apparently I am liable for more than I took out by a large amount of money, as it says I made such huge 'profits' from trading in the 17/18 tax year that if I use this software to declare it, it will render me effectively destitute. 

Every trade between those old Bitcoins and a certain alt that I bought for pennies show up in trades in late 2017 as huge (yet never actually realised) profits which were calculated AT THAT TIME.  What I took out was life changing, but the tax amount I now appear to owe (so this software says) exceeds both my actual real fiat gains AND most of my remaining now 'lower-valued' stash. 

I really was content to pay my dues on the gains, now I am forced to re-think. If you're about to submit a tax return: seriously - take care?  It's the value at the time of the trade they're after, not what you have made in fiat.  Which is patently unfair - since if it was just trading between BTC and frothy alts and not cash, it was quite genuinely not realised and has of course gone down in value hugely since December.

Trading Hodlers:  BEWARE if your jurisdiction accounts like this.


Well damn, that sucks.

Are you sure Cointracker.io is calculating CGT instead of IT and that it is set to UK for S.104 sharepooling, the same-day and 30-day rule? If so, the figures should be accurate provided you've supplied all data to 5th May.


First one is IOS. I am an Iphone 6s user and damn thing works just like on the day I bought it. Android phones from the same year can't even lift a finger now. They are slow as fuck nowadays. Android just dies in time.

True, or the phone gets one update if you're lucky and is then abandoned by the manufacturer, or you get them overlaying their bloatware on Android like EMUI or MIUI etc.
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But, the beatings will continue until Virgin Roach visits Israel and Africa.


Or gets laid for the first time Tongue

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Yup. These days this thread is 60% It Observer.

No kidding. It's reaching a point of bona fide stupidity now.
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January 06, 2019, 10:05:06 AM

DailyTarder Author on Bitcoin

 "All I care about is how this effects bitcoin. I say it’s good for bitcoin, which is why I’m feeling bullish today. It would be interesting to see if collapsing third world country currencies in general, correlates well with bitcoin prices.
In which case, I’ll have even more of an incentive to see brown people suffering."

https://dailystormer.name/will-venezuela-help-bitcoin-prices-by-self-destructing/

You see Virgin Roach, even your racist Nazi heroes love Bitcoin. It is the best money ever invented and headed to 100k, of course everyone from the left and right will eventually be a Bitcoiner, just like they use the internet and cell phones.

You really cant win Virgin Roach, soon the Nazis will banish you from their clubs for being a Bitcoin denier.
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January 06, 2019, 10:05:17 AM

There is no ban from the thread, so don't hassle Infofront.

Only from the forum itself

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Well damn, that sucks.

Are you sure Cointracker.io is calculating CGT instead of IT and that it is set to UK for S.104 sharepooling, the same-day and 30-day rule? If so, the figures should be accurate provided you've supplied all data to 5th May.


I will pop over a PM, if I may, Yefi.  'Dirty laundry' and all that Wink
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https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1201766/

Oh look Virgin Roach, your other favorite Nazi site right here is spreading Bitcoin adoption. Its crazy how average everyday Nazi's use modern things like cars, computers, shoes, etc. Its almost as if they arent totally retarded, which means you are operating on some mentally retarded level under them.

"You open your Bitcoin wallet on your device and let the ATM scan the bar code displayed on your screen. This is how the ATM knows where to send the Bitcoin. Then select the dollar amount you want to convert to Bitcoin and just feed your cash into the machine. In about two seconds the equivalent Bitcoin will appear in your wallet.

Now you can use it buy all kinds of merchandise or transfer money safely and securely to anybody with a Bitcoin wallet."

I dont see Nazi's using Silver to run their websites and buy stuff online w Cheesy

I bet Nazi's will be having their own 100k party soon when this bull market really gets in full swing.
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English writing is V8 already helping me with....
Um

As time goes by, hope diminishes.
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Oh look Virgin Roach. Looks like all the Nazi folks over at Stormfront really love Bitcoin, its their favorite for donations. I mean they will take a crummy check for USD if you must, but they come right out and tell you that as good Nazis, Bitcoin is "our preferred payment method" Roll Eyes

"Please include your Stormfront username (if already registered on the board), or if you would like be listed here as "ANON."

You can also donate with Bitcoin. This is our preferred payment method. Shocked

This is our Bitcoin address:

1F1hfHBxby3sbr6TmzcHxqZ8WpLEFSE8pb

As Bitcoin donations arrive anonymously with no sender information, please PM or email me after you've sent them, so I can upgrade your account as a Sustaining Member.

If you don't have a Bitcoin wallet, you can find out how to buy and send Bitcoin with your debit or credit card here."

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1211646/?postcount=1#post14080008

I bet those Nazis are waiting for 100k and glad the bottom is in. Cheesy
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https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1201766/

Oh look Virgin Roach, your other favorite Nazi site right here is spreading Bitcoin adoption. Its crazy how average everyday Nazi's use modern things like cars, computers, shoes, etc. Its almost as if they arent totally retarded, which means you are operating on some mentally retarded level under them.

"You open your Bitcoin wallet on your device and let the ATM scan the bar code displayed on your screen. This is how the ATM knows where to send the Bitcoin. Then select the dollar amount you want to convert to Bitcoin and just feed your cash into the machine. In about two seconds the equivalent Bitcoin will appear in your wallet.

Now you can use it buy all kinds of merchandise or transfer money safely and securely to anybody with a Bitcoin wallet."

I dont see Nazi's using Silver to run their websites and buy stuff online w Cheesy

I bet Nazi's will be having their own 100k party soon when this bull market really gets in full swing.
He's not a nazi, he's a Danny Balint

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