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January 11, 2019, 01:24:20 AM

I apologize if this has been posted before (if it has, I'll delete my post)

The SEC must curse the Winkies for opening the floodgates on them. At least it hasn't got to shitcoin ETF applications yet.

If I ran the SEC my ETF application page would simply show this.





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January 11, 2019, 01:25:26 AM

What the fuck is a green? Is that the rumored color ?

That's them's envious neighbors.
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January 11, 2019, 01:29:24 AM
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BTW

That DT thread in meta is counting pages AF.....
For trust I just Said, that i only trust a member that have a HAT fixed by XhomerX, cause he wouldn’t give 1 to a scammer Roll Eyes
It seems it was the wrong place to write that (btw Some good trustworthy in here whiteout HATs as wel .... LFC, raja etc)
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That trust thing is just very complicated can’t make shit of it Roll Eyes
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January 11, 2019, 01:33:24 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/aeikjp/ama_we_are_sean_neville_jeremy_allaire_team/?sort=confidence

An interesting AMA from the Circle people to peruse on the toilet or when you're waiting in court for sentencing. They have plenty of things churning away.
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January 11, 2019, 01:38:02 AM

Right now we have a problem with a mini bear line forming at $4100 below the main bear line.  

Soo... at _negative_$700_?
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January 11, 2019, 01:42:41 AM
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However, I'm pretty certain he was always aware of the possibility of signing something with one of satoshi's strongly conjecturable keys to be pretty damned solid evidence for the claim.

Block 0 key, that's the only thing that would work. You can't do that, you ain't him.

Somehow, you came into the possession of said key, you sign, you still ain't him/her/thems.
You're him/her/thems, you lost the key, you can't sign, you're still him/her/thems.

Block 0? Only?
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January 11, 2019, 01:46:24 AM

...and with that, I've caught up with the tip. Signing off from SNA. See all y'all when I land.
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January 11, 2019, 02:12:11 AM


check this out ...
https://newatlas.com/so-fold-float-shelter/57961/

i think there are other house-boat, flaoting structures already out there you can just tow out to anywhere ... hell, just buy some abandoned freighter, super-yacht whatever floats and has okay living quarters and space and tow it to the location. Those flotels (floating hotels) the rigs use when under construction can house >1000 person, there's sure to be some used /old examples of those around that can be had for a few bitcoins.

https://www.google.com/search?q=flotel+image







I think they are overthinking it, people just want a P.O. Box number and small apartment to establish a residency in international waters ....

The key part of seasteading is a higher degree of sovereignty. More than just a house boat. International waters is ideal. Any home in international waters needs to be able to handle the waves.

Our spar design allows us to live above the waves.

I am currently in a boat towing the platform out to international waters where it will be placed on top of a 20 meter long spar. This will allow the platform to be 5 meters above the water. The location we will be has 5 meter waves maybe once in 100 years.
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January 11, 2019, 02:13:31 AM

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......I have repeatedly indicated that the chance seems unlikely, but there is no proof per se that CSW is not satoshi. Given the evidence we have at this time, that would be tantamount to disproving a negative. That ain't how logic works.

Your statement here, jbreher, borders on crazytalk.

There is absolutely no burden for anyone to prove that CSW is NOT Satoshi.

Never said there was. If you want to claim that it is FACT, however, you should be prepared to back that claim up with solid evidence.

The burden does not shift to the person calling CSW out as bullshit, merely because such person is emphatic about it.  The burden still rests with CSW to support his claim with both facts and logic.

CSW started making the claim first, and people are asserting quite strongly and absolutley that CSW has failed to substantiate his claim to being satoshi.. so fucking what, they have no burden to establish that CSW is not satoshi... and they are in the right to be asserting absolutely that CSW is NOT satoshi because he has failed/refused to meet his evidentiary and logical burden(s) of proof and persuasion.



Some would say that CSW's falsified evidence is proof of non-satoshi.

Yep.. falsifying evidence does not help CSW's case or claim to be satoshi... and I don't give a shit whether the logic is being used badly to claim that he is not... the burden is still on CSW to support his claim.. and he has not, and his lying and falsifying does not help his case.

I say it is merely evidence supporting such a conclusion. I can think of at least one strong reason why satoshi would like to sow doubt about his existence.

So, no. Neither postulate has been proven.

It does not work like that jbreher... You are attempting to make false equivalencies by continuing to suggest that someone other than CSW bears some kind of burden, and they do not.

The burden is 100% (or at least fucking close to 100%) upon CSW to prove that he is satoshi, if that is what he intends to claim (or continue to claim). 

I do not disagree with you here.

So, the case should be closed, then.  NO more need to argue or debate about this particular topic, right?

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Furthermore, decent and reasonable means of attempting proof through signing of a known satoshi block have been outlined many times, and CSW fails and/or refuses to even attempt the most reasonable acceptable means to accomplish such identification verification.

Do you think he would not have known without such an outline?

Seems to be a distraction to be attempting to give CSW credit for "knowing stuff" that only satoshi or someone close to satoshi would hav known.


CSW seems to have a puzzling grasp of things about Bitcoin that he knows, and other things that he thinks he knows but seem to be false anyhow.

To me, seems like a BIG so what?

However, I'm pretty certain he was always aware of the possibility of signing something with one of satoshi's strongly conjecturable keys to be pretty damned solid evidence for the claim.

Yes.  He likely is smart enough to know what would be the most convincing way to incontrovertibly put the matter to rest.  His failure to do that does not necessarily substantiate that he is purposefully holding back evidence in order to keep matters suspenseful.  He just got caught with his pants down on some of these matters, and bit off more than he can chew... and the most logical presentation is that CSW still wants to attempt to claim that he is satoshi, but he is just NOT able to do it... because he is NOT satoshi..   We should not be wasting our brainpower in continuing to attempt exploration of such a topic because it is resolved... CSW ≠ satoshi.
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January 11, 2019, 03:22:49 AM

The key part of seasteading is a higher degree of sovereignty. More than just a house boat. International waters is ideal. Any home in international waters needs to be able to handle the waves.

Our spar design allows us to live above the waves.

I am currently in a boat towing the platform out to international waters where it will be placed on top of a 20 meter long spar. This will allow the platform to be 5 meters above the water. The location we will be has 5 meter waves maybe once in 100 years.

Congrats on the launch. Keep us updated.
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January 11, 2019, 03:33:05 AM
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Exactly 10 years ago today something special was tweeted out to the World. Thanks Hal..you are missed but not forgotten.




https://twitter.com/halfin/status/1110302988?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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January 11, 2019, 04:02:30 AM

The key part of seasteading is a higher degree of sovereignty. More than just a house boat. International waters is ideal. Any home in international waters needs to be able to handle the waves.

Our spar design allows us to live above the waves.

I am currently in a boat towing the platform out to international waters where it will be placed on top of a 20 meter long spar. This will allow the platform to be 5 meters above the water. The location we will be has 5 meter waves maybe once in 100 years.

Sweet, and rock on. Next thing to deal with will of course be pirates.
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January 11, 2019, 04:24:47 AM

Sweet, and rock on. Next thing to deal with will of course be pirates.

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January 11, 2019, 04:30:30 AM

Just dipped under 3600 - that escalated quickly.

Need some new hopium please  Sad
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Just dipped under 3600 - that escalated quickly.

Need some new hopium please  Sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0bOH8ABpco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yop62wQH498
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UTXO analysis indicates we may be very close to or just past the bottom.

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Data from the notorious 2014 into 2015 bear market shows that once 1 year+ UXTO jumped back above 50%, Bitcoin’s price bottom followed soon after. According to current bear market data, 1 year+ UXTO climbed back up over 50% recently, just before Bitcoin’s free fall toward its 2018 low of $3,250.
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January 11, 2019, 05:07:44 AM
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BTW

That DT thread in meta is counting pages AF.....
For trust I just Said, that i only trust a member that have a HAT fixed by XhomerX, cause he wouldn’t give 1 to a scammer Roll Eyes
It seems it was the wrong place to write that (btw Some good trustworthy in here whiteout HATs as wel .... LFC, raja etc)
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That trust thing is just very complicated can’t make shit of it Roll Eyes

 Thanks for the vote of confidence MicG.  I would never knowingly make a hat for a scammer but as I have seen in my time here, people who seem trustworthy occasionally screw off with your investment monies.  I'm still puzzled by the friedcat  disappearance though ..
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January 11, 2019, 05:59:29 AM

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy

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January 11, 2019, 06:18:02 AM

How to go broke manufacturing money printing machines...lol.
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