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[JayJuanGee]

Im nowhere on the centralised trustles default pseudo trustlist (2nd layer)

my name is mud

I don't know how it exactly works, but I have you in my white trustbox if that is worth anything

yeah, the whole "trust" thing seems very opaque to me

I did add FlensGold to my white box as he is the one member that ever had the opportunity to steal from me and didn't.

when someone has a clear chance of stealing, and does not steal.... yeah that earns trust
 

Credit where it is due but... except people behaviour may change depending on the circumstances. Never forget that.

Never trust anyone that have nothing to lose and much to gain by cheating you.

Don't trust, verify.

P.S.: Also, the fact that someone is trustable doesn't mean his criteria about other people trust may be correct. In fact it is usually the contrary.

Sometimes there can be a longcon going on, too (which might be your reference, bitserve?), and in that regard, there would be several small opportunities to steal that are not realized, but result in a BIG stealing event that comes later on down the line.  It seems that there have been quite a few longcon examples that have taken place in bitcoin, bitcointalk and crypto... which boils down to guys (and perhaps gal?) building up confidence over time, and then later running off with the funds in an exit scam.

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[El duderino_]

https://twitter.com/stormXBT/status/1085228950861893633

latest RUSSIA NEWS straight from the head itself

[realr0ach]

Unless you secretly think the shitcoins du jour have any purpose for existing or real world value, in which, I'd be glad to debate that with you.

Every single craptocurrency is the same Torque.  Stop pretending there's a difference between any of them.  They're ALL designed to centralize garbage.  The only thing Bitcoin should be evaluated on is:  DOES PoW do anything useful at all?  The answer is NO.  It fails miserably.  And every PoW alternative is even worse.  If the consensus mechanism is a complete failure and centralized immediately after release, what's left over?  Nothing.  Just a linked list.

[El duderino_]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-15/bnp-trader-suffers-80-million-loss-after-putting-wrong-trade-then-leaving-vacation

BNP workers

[gembitz]

 

weeeee

[Last of the V8s]

ETH fork delayed due to a security flaw found by an external team

eth dev chatroom

https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1085270367600558080?s=19

https://twitter.com/TheBlock__/status/1085268712297558022

[gembitz]

ETH fork delayed due to a security flaw found by an external team - links abound

ETH carnage from 'topia ...coins moving gogogoooo

[cAPSLOCK]

Im nowhere on the centralised trustles default pseudo trustlist (2nd layer)

my name is mud

Yeah... It's funny.  Not possible for me to care less about it.  I doubt I have any rating at all?  But I have not even looked.

[El duderino_]

got the poll very wrong




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[El duderino_]

red is getting MOAR red@ the moment

[yefi]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

[Wekkel]

got the poll very wrong

I was too optimistic as well. But not too optimistic. Basically, it's a sideways affair now. Probably for a longer time than we wish  

[JayJuanGee]

Last year I was a millionaire (in dollars).

means that you had (or perhaps have?) more than 53 (in bitcoins)

hahaha, I like how you always like to make people recognise how many BTC they do have. As a penalty I will say my educated guess is that you have, with a high degree of certainty, an amount between 40 and 150 BTC. And, if I had to guess the exact amount, I would say around 60 right now... including alt/shitcoins and trading fiat.

Of course this is all just my own speculation with absolutely no factual resemblance to reality.

P.S.: I have less than that... and that is a FACT.

Hey... These are not baaaaad discussion points, right?  

Take with a grain of salt, any representations regarding amount of bitcoin that you believe wo participants have, including yours truly, and surely if a member makes some kind of assertion such as: " I used to be a millionaire, but now I am not" then there is a certain amount of personal disclosure that has already taken place with that post.  So, in that regard, the person has either wittingly or not opened him/her/itself up for further scrutiny (or elaboration on such topic).

I used to be a bit more revealing in some of my personal bitcoin/altcoin and fiat holding/accumulation details, but I think that I have become a bit better at more obscurity - even though from time to time, I do conclude that some personal disclosure(s) is(are) necessary in order to make certain points in an "at stake" way, rather than pure pie in the sky speculation.  

To the extent that it matters to points raised in this line of thought, I will neither confirm nor deny whether you are in the ballpark regarding my "exact amount,"  but I still don't mind such discussion.  Remember towards the end of 2017 and through a decent portion of 2018, there were a lot of posters speculating on how they were going to spend their free-time in the upcoming years and whether a Lambo was going to be part of their future.  Surely, some of those discussions have become less prevalent, but I still believe that the price performance of bitcoin in late 2017 allowed me to have some more freedom in making certain financial decisions and even expedited some of my push towards closing down my business - which took place at the end of 2018 - even though I have some ongoing wrapping up that I am still doing  - progress is being made - which includes more location independence for me, as scary (and seemingly slow progress) as that can be sometimes.

Last year I was a millionaire (in dollars).

means that you had (or perhaps have?) more than 53 (in bitcoins)

hahaha, I like how you always like to make people recognise how many BTC they do have. As a penalty I will say my educated guess is that you have, with a high degree of certainty, an amount between 40 and 150 BTC. And, if I had to guess the exact amount, I would say around 60 right now... including alt/shitcoins and trading fiat.

Of course this is all just my own speculation with absolutely no factual resemblance to reality.

P.S.: I have less than that... and that is a FACT.

thats a guess on who of those 2?

On JJG of course, because he is always trying to make other people say it


Again... I might be perfectly wrong. If I *really* knew it, I would say NOTHING.

I would take issue with the characterization:  "he is always trying to make other people say it."   If I fish through my memories, it seems that I am merely following through with a topic that has already been opened by the poster, and frequently, personal holdings, strategies
 and balancing of various competing interests remains an interesting topic for me.  Therefore, if some WO poster mentions a topic of interest, then I don't mind exploring such topic further; especially, if I believe such poster is making genuine representations.  On the other hand, sometimes posters might be making shit up, and a few probing questions will reveal that they are not really dealing with actual personal considerations, and instead trolling us. 

[El duderino_]

got the poll very wrong

I was too optimistic as well. But not too optimistic. Basically, it's a sideways affair now. Probably for a longer time than we wish  

I wasn't the +5000... but 4600 was also way to bullish

F*** sideways, thats truly the most boring time in crypto

[bitserve]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

Perfectly spherical bullets are way different to regular bullets that end up tumbling as soon as they lose the rotational speed with a way higher air drag.

Much of the penetration of a regular gunshot is thanks to its rotational speed. That's why pipeguns are not that effective, even at very short distance, unless properly directed against unprotected vital points (neck, eyes, temple, etc).

To the mooooooon!!! weeeeeeeeee

[Toxic2040]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

+1 WOsMerit

[El duderino_]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

Perfectly spherical bullets are way different to regular bullets that end up tumbling as soon as they lose the rotational speed with a way higher air drag.

Much of the penetration of a regular gunshot is thanks to its rotational speed. That's why pipeguns are not that effective, even at very short distance, unless properly directed against unprotected vital points (neck, eyes, temple, etc).

To the mooooooon!!! weeeeeeeeee

^NOW!!

[El duderino_]

Did you account for air drag, or did you only consider gravitational acceleration?

I took an average pebble out my garden. It weighs 10 grams and has a mean diameter of about 20 mm. If we assume it were perfectly spherical with a drag coefficient of 0.47, travelling through air with standard density of 1.225 kg/m^3, and plug the figures into the formula for terminal velocity we get: sqrt((2*0.01*9.81)/(1.225*(3.14*0.01^2)*0.47)) = 33 m/s or 119 km/h. If we pipe that into E = 1/2*m*v^2 for energy, we get ~5.5 J or ~4 ft-lb.

Or in other words, I need Bitcoin to do something exciting.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096275.0
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I suggest fill UP and win some

[Arriemoller]

Yuh I'm dead impressed gentlemand didn't run off to Southend with Arriemoller's £1.60 +p&p. He could have settled with a gypsy woman and rubbed crystal balls while she cackled. But no, he did a trustworthy thing that one time.

He actually asked me to pay when the paper arrived, so I could have taken the paper and run.
Although he's got my address so he might have come for me.
And the post knows how to fleece you, total cost was over £7

[El duderino_]

Yuh I'm dead impressed gentlemand didn't run off to Southend with Arriemoller's £1.60 +p&p. He could have settled with a gypsy woman and rubbed crystal balls while she cackled. But no, he did a trustworthy thing that one time.

He actually asked me to pay when the paper arrived, so I could have taken the paper and run.
Although he's got my address so he might have come for me.
And the post knows how to fleece you, total cost was over £7

don't know way but I think your OK from gentlemand.....

yeah right I do remember he told me once he could only walk for 15 straight minutes so not to much danger