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January 17, 2019, 07:53:20 PM

LOL at Roger Ver

Users served for free bCash: 0.  Cheesy


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January 17, 2019, 07:55:01 PM

flashy trezors
https://gray-international.com/collections/corazon

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January 17, 2019, 08:00:31 PM

No sign of Roach or Gembitz and peeps are pumping some new shitcoin. Carry on Roll Eyes
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January 17, 2019, 08:01:29 PM
Last edit: January 22, 2019, 01:52:45 AM by Hueristic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LszOt51OjXU

Have you watched this? Its an interesting Bitcoin documentary Cheesy

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January 17, 2019, 08:01:42 PM

From current prices what crypto do you think will 10x first, Ethereum or Bitcoin?

Both ETH and BTC will not make 10X so forget 10X and get into seeing bitcoin being used as a means of payments worldwide, this should be our main objective

If Bitcoin is used for payments worldwide it will more than 10x.

I think it is a new asset in that as it is being established as a SoV at the same time as it's capabilities of a MoE are being bootstrapped.  I think most money has had to really become the first one before it could be the second, and I think Bitcoin is going to overlap more than that.

But then, I am a fairly strong proponent of scaling in layers.

Btc is worldwide, check on google with "Bitcoin site:countery-suffix", you will find at least 1 website selling btc on each countery. Some people use BTC to buy giftcard, popup VCC...etc. people do not need to exchange their local currency to dollar and open bank account to transfert money. BTC has made anything worldwide.
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January 17, 2019, 08:03:57 PM


 The fact that we already have ASIC's being deployed for this project leaves me extremely dubious. I understand that spinning up new ASIC's for crypto-du-jour is becoming a regular occurrence, now, but am not entirely sure what Grin brings to the table compared to BTC/Lightning.


 HODL.

Believe it or not I actually read a few pages of Grin's main thread. I see it is a self-pruning (am i right?) infinite supply coin which has some differences than btc which makes grin a bit more light weight and usable as a currency.

It says a grin will be created in every second. The first couple of years (maybe even more) the price will be going down, (theymos said it may go below $1) since the inflation rate will always be the same, after a time like 5-7 years, if the project surives by then, only then it will be going up.

I see it as an experimental project which is not going to threaten btc's #1 status, at least not in the next 10 years.

I may start buying 2 years later.

This is the first time I caught a big project on day 1, and fuck my luck this is the first time getting in early is not rewarding.
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January 17, 2019, 08:11:53 PM

https://www.businessinsider.com/young-blood-transfusions-open-accepting-paypal-payments-cities-ambrosia-2019-1

"A startup called Ambrosia that charges $8,000 to fill your veins with the blood of young people is now accepting PayPal payments for the procedure online."

"In 2017, Ambrosia enrolled people in a clinical trial designed to find out what happens when the veins of adults are filled with blood from younger people. While the results of that study have not been made public, Karmazin told Business Insider in September that they were "really positive."

Clowns. In the future the blood of young nocoiners and will be bought with Bitcoin by immortal coiners. Only way for the poor to buy in after 2024. Shocked Cool
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January 17, 2019, 08:24:02 PM
Last edit: January 17, 2019, 08:39:34 PM by Hueristic

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 Don't worry, I have a plan for our little friend.  No whitepaper yet but I think those are overkill and cause a lot of unnecessary infighting.



edit: VeeCash! VeeCash! VeeCash!


uhhhhhhh

that's a straight 8

 The dev team told me it was two V8s stuck together!  Damn... they got 10% of the pre-mine too.
wtf? dunno how you've infiltrated my dev team, they're all nda-ed up the wazoo, but glad to see they downplayed it a bit. 70% is quite enough for the common people, less the ongoing founder's fees and so forth, and golden toilets for devs of beautiful new coins are mandatory nowadays you know

I'm working on a sidechain.



It's weird. It seems many of the old school bitcoiners who didn't pile on Monero are now piling on Grin.

Ironic.
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January 17, 2019, 08:38:15 PM

Cylinder Maximalist
Don't worry, I have a plan for our little friend.  No whitepaper yet but I think those are overkill and cause a lot of unnecessary infighting.

edit: VeeCash! VeeCash! VeeCash!
uhhhhhhh
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The dev team told me it was two V8s stuck together!  Damn... they got 10% of the pre-mine too.
wtf? dunno how you've infiltrated my dev team, they're all nda-ed up the wazoo, but glad to see they downplayed it a bit. 70% is quite enough for the common people, less the ongoing founder's fees and so forth, and golden toilets for devs of beautiful new coins are mandatory nowadays you know
I'm working on a sidechain.

Great that the BimbleWomble sidechain is coming together, but if it could add more than 3 bhp to the whole shebang, well that it would be a start
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January 17, 2019, 08:44:50 PM

What's the general consensus on Grin? Are we buying it or Is theymos trolling us again with another shitcoin? (remember howey) No address, no coins, sounds weird af. I don't know what to think about it.

Not a shitcoin but it is not an investment vehicle.
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January 17, 2019, 08:49:14 PM

Great that the BimbleWomble sidechain is coming together, but if it could add more than 3 bhp to the whole shebang, well that it would be a start

I'm going to call it Tari, or is that already taken? Cheesy
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January 17, 2019, 08:55:05 PM

From nothing to everything... #10yearschallenge

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I think it is a new asset in that as it is being established as a SoV at the same time as it's capabilities of a MoE are being bootstrapped.  I think most money has had to really become the first one before it could be the second, and I think Bitcoin is going to overlap more than that.



I see it slightly differently: that it's true calling, as it were, is as a personal, portable, permanent SoV. A kind of undying meta-wallet that we can trivially take across borders and generations. We can choose to grow our stash all our lives, give it to the state in taxes, pass it on, spend it, whatever - it is completely within our - the keyholder's - control. Not the border guards. Unbeholden to or trusting any third party, bank or societal construct. It becomes purely that part of us needed to exchange, from time to time, strategic value with others. In that sense, no other currency is needed.

But the means of exchange on an everyday basis, the buying a coffee, is a red herring. It has some importance, yes, but only to demonstrate atht the transfer of value can indeed be performed, trivially, securely and irreversibly. It's a kind of proof of concept to the doubters.

Undeniably, for banal shopping a credit card works better. Sometimes you don't trust the person you're buying from. In that case you're buying a judge for that credit card 3% who will usually side with you. I don't have a problem with that. In fact it seems perverse that fighting that service is the ditch Roger and Craig are happy to die in. Let 'em.
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January 17, 2019, 09:00:32 PM

Cylinder Maximalist

 Don't worry, I have a plan for our little friend.  No whitepaper yet but I think those are overkill and cause a lot of unnecessary infighting.



edit: VeeCash! VeeCash! VeeCash!


uhhhhhhh

that's a straight 8

 The dev team told me it was two V8s stuck together!  Damn... they got 10% of the pre-mine too.
wtf? dunno how you've infiltrated my dev team, they're all nda-ed up the wazoo, but glad to see they downplayed it a bit. 70% is quite enough for the common people, less the ongoing founder's fees and so forth, and golden toilets for devs of beautiful new coins are mandatory nowadays you know

I'm working on a sidechain.




 You'll no doubt require at least 4 of those units.
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January 17, 2019, 09:03:49 PM

Now we support Grin. Grin
theymos:
Therefore, I'm happy to announce that the forum is now accepting grin payments automatically, probably the first site other than exchanges to do so. You'll find a link at the bottom of the evil-fee and copper-membership pages.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098450.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

 I don't want to sound disrespectful to Theymos. This is his house, and we are all guests here. I'm grateful for his efforts in maintaining this community through myriad challenges.

 Having said that, I'm not sure what i think about this.

 The fact that we already have ASIC's being deployed for this project leaves me extremely dubious. I understand that spinning up new ASIC's for crypto-du-jour is becoming a regular occurrence, now, but am not entirely sure what Grin brings to the table compared to BTC/Lightning.

 I'm being much more neutral-bearish-jaded, looking forward, than I was in 2018.

 Fuck 2018.

 No lube.

 HODL.

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I agree that the tech behind MW and grin/beam appear interesting theoretically, but the infinite emission structure gives me pause. I guess I am just habituated to bitcoin. #dyor

We now return to our regularly scheduled program at grincointalk.org


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What do you think  about this graffity?
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January 17, 2019, 09:17:54 PM

setting things straight as we speak
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I'm told memes are like porn. If you see the same one too often, it gets less fun.
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