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February 08, 2019, 01:47:52 AM

^As you can see, this Last of the v8 guy doesn't give a flying shit about what's true or false.  Instead of defeating the Jew banks, his only goal is to attempt to pull a Judas and sell out humanity for whatever pocket change he can get.
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February 08, 2019, 02:25:21 AM

as a SOV

To be a "store of value" requires being a non-perishable physical commodity, not an imaginary token, fake commodity.  When a rainy day comes around and you need some monetary liquidity, there is zero guarantee anyone will want or accept an imaginary, fake commodity.  On a long enough timeline, it's guaranteed they won't.  The Aristotle argument on money is correct and Plato and John Nash are wrong.  

Plato was so horrifically wrong, he might even be one of the first well known Jew banker shills - a Hamiltonian.  Due to this obvious blowout in fundamentals, it's 100% guaranteed the invisible hand of the market causes physical metals to demolish imaginary digital shitcoins in the long run.

Hey Roach,

Have you noticed that since 2013 the advancement of bitcoin's liquidity has grown exponentially?  What does that say for the ability for a BTC HODLer/investor to cash out of bitcoin at any time that s/he wants?  

Of course, any of anyone could hypothesize that bitcoin's value could drop so quickly that a HODLer is not able to find anyone to whom s/he can sell.  But that hypothesis flies in the face of bitcoin's current liquidity status and actual facts on the ground.  

Surely, many folks get into bitcoin with a decently enough timescale, but merely getting into bitcoin does not stop HODLers from getting out or changing his/her BTC allocation at any time that s/he wants.. There is quite a bit of flexibility in that regard, so your attempt to suggest that any BTC HODLer / investor is locked into his/her position might be a criticism that is better applied to PMs.  In current times, it seems a lot easier to tweak a bitcoin position than to tweak a PM position, no?  

Finally, I understand that your various asserted criticisms of bitcoin assumes an Armageddon situation, but let's get real.  What are the odds of an Armageddon in the next 10 years or so?  Probably less than 1%, even though you want to presume such Armageddon odds to be much higher than that.  The way you talk, you are placing Armageddon in a kind of 50% ballpark.. or maybe you could correct me and give an actual prediction for Armageddon (that makes PMs valuable) within the next 10 years... Go on, give a number for it.  I anticipate silence from you, which is usually the case whenever you are not presenting your dumbass speculative and non-substantiated talking points.
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February 08, 2019, 02:53:39 AM

JayJuanGee, what in the fuck is this jibberish you're posting?  Your argument is basically that since bitcoin has some minor level of liquidity *right now* it's guaranteed to always be there.  No, it's not, just like hundreds of other fiat notes and altcoins whose liquidity used to be something and is now zero.  The only thing that can maintain liquidity on a long enough timeline is an actual use case. 

Gold has a lot of use cases, although much lower than silver and copper, so that typically prevents it's liquidity from imploding and the commodity going to zero.  Bitcoin's only real use case is regulatory arbitrage, which is an untenable, TEMPORARY feature.  Transaction validators are designed to centralized, traffic is not obfuscated, transactions are non-fungible, etc, so it's extremely easy for the govt to stop regulatory arbitrage in bitcoin and even control it entirely.

Then all you have left is some fake claim of scarcity which isn't even true since cryptocurrencies have no valid Schelling point.  In this thread you have people who only care about Ethereum, or only care about Monero, or only care about Bitcoin.  People just flee to whatever the blockchain pump and dump of the day is, whatever has the lowest transaction fees at the time, or whatever coin where the distribution favors themselves instead of the next guy.  Metals do not have any of these problems because you can't create a new noble metal in your basement.
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February 08, 2019, 02:58:05 AM

Short banks - long lightening network

https://twitter.com/WhiteRabbitBTC/status/1093596838811389953
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February 08, 2019, 03:25:16 AM


Unless they're also bringing back dwolla, I ain't interested.

Ummm.... Dwolla never left.
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February 08, 2019, 03:32:21 AM


Ummm.... Dwolla never left.

washed their hands of crypto though
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February 08, 2019, 04:05:35 AM
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JayJuanGee, what in the fuck is this jibberish you're posting?  Your argument is basically that since bitcoin has some minor level of liquidity *right now* it's guaranteed to always be there. 

That's not my argument.  Please work on your reading skills, roach.  You would be out of your element if you would actually respond rather than just spewing out talking points.

No, it's not, just like hundreds of other fiat notes and altcoins whose liquidity used to be something and is now zero.  The only thing that can maintain liquidity on a long enough timeline is an actual use case. 

stop comparing bitcoin to shit coins, such comparisons are attempting to suggest that the tail wags the dog rather than the other way around.  Bitcoin is leading this pack, not a product of its various imitations that you attempt to attribute bitcoin traits to.

Regarding use cases, stop ignoring obvious points.  Bitcoin has various use cases including sovereignty over value and ability to censorship resistantly move such value.  Good luck doing that with gold, especially if you want to move a few million.  And, those just getting started use cases exist in bitcoin right now, it is not theoretical.


Gold has a lot of use cases, although much lower than silver and copper, so that typically prevents it's liquidity from imploding and the commodity going to zero. 

Great... Good for you and your various PMs.  I will take your word for it, and the possibility that some PMs might have some use cases does not rule out that bitcoin has use cases.  So get the fuck out of here with your attempt to narrowly define use cases in some kind of physical tangible category, when those are not the only possible kinds of use cases.   


Bitcoin's only real use case is regulatory arbitrage, which is an untenable, TEMPORARY feature. 

Again.. a narrow attempt at ambiguity, and your failure/refusal to accept the real world and to recognize on the ground facts.

Transaction validators are designed to centralized, traffic is not obfuscated, transactions are non-fungible, etc, so it's extremely easy for the govt to stop regulatory arbitrage in bitcoin and even control it entirely.

Again, you are trying to make out a problem out of something that could happen and to suggest that such a thing is actually happening rather than to recognize and accept actual transactional empowering scenarios in bitcoin that are actually taking place in the real world.


Then all you have left is some fake claim of scarcity which isn't even true since cryptocurrencies have no valid Schelling point. 


You are hypothesizing about the future.  Can you at least attempt to stick with bitcoin rather than attempting to confuse matters by bringing in all kinds of other cryptos and trying to make the bitcoin use case (and various already existing schelling points) more unnecessarily complicated (and devolving into irrelevance) than needed?


In this thread you have people who only care about Ethereum, or only care about Monero, or only care about Bitcoin. 


This is a bitcoin thread, so why you trying to suggest something else?  Of course there are trolls, shills and people who care about other coins, including ethereum and monero, but the existence of folks who also believe in some other projects does not take away from bitcoin's ongoing development and progress.


People just flee to whatever the blockchain pump and dump of the day is, whatever has the lowest transaction fees at the time, or whatever coin where the distribution favors themselves instead of the next guy. 

So what?  Who gives a shit?  It could take 20 to 50 years for the various coins to play out and the copy cats and the attack vectors and the distractions, but that still does not take away from ongoing BTC development and progress that should be obvious to anyone who is actually attempting to study and understand what is taking place rather than just ignoring facts and spewing out nonsensical distracting talking points, which seems to be your ongoing practice.

Metals do not have any of these problems because you can't create a new noble metal in your basement.

Metals do not have that problem because no one gives a shit about metals, and they are likely going to continue to decline in value with the passage of time and while people move more and more to bitcoin.  Good luck with your attempts to hold your ground and stop bleeding in the coming 5 years, 10 years and 20 years.
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February 08, 2019, 05:20:14 AM

It matches DeathAndTaxes description of solidcoin.

Hard to believe nearly 4 years have passed since his last visit here.
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Support levels remain strong as bitcoin trades in a narrow channel looking for a path towards a breakout. New resistance levels at $3.4k are likely to be tested as we head towards the weekend.
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The board is coming into sharper focus as the final pieces of the bottom and the end of the bear market click into place.
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still in progress ? ssmc,bitebits,biodom,majormax,lauda,somac. etc........ pfffffffff   MANY HAT's created THX 

HAT UPDATE TIME ........ again THX XhomerX for this nice work
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Support levels remain strong as bitcoin trades in a narrow channel looking for a path towards a breakout. New resistance levels at $3.4k are likely to be tested as we head towards the weekend.
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The board is coming into sharper focus as the final pieces of the bottom and the end of the bear market click into place.
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February 08, 2019, 07:15:31 AM

Just tried new Resident Evil 2 game.  Graphics are cool and everything.  Gameplay is non-existent.  I'm not sure how it got an overwhelmingly positive rating.  It controls like a 747 too.  An example of a good FPS-RPG is Metro 2033 Redux.  Resident Evil 2 plays like an endless find the hidden lever adventure game combined with worst combat system ever.
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February 08, 2019, 07:21:08 AM

!!!!! speechless...
Never had you for a gamer r0ach. Even there you are full of joy God damn it.
Do you also watch a lot of porn?

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February 08, 2019, 07:29:07 AM

Now tell me that you mine any kind of shitcoin with that GPU of yours, and I will go fuck myself ASAP.
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February 08, 2019, 07:59:19 AM

Litecoin just took the 5th spot from bcash on coinmarketcap.

As much as I don't like altcoins at all, I'd prefer to see ltc behind bitcoin. Not the absolute craps like ripple and bcash. So that's good news of today. I also hodl double figures in ltc maybe I am being emotional.Wink
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