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February 08, 2019, 08:12:52 PM

Nice.  Very goddamn nice.

HM are you still shorting??

Yes I have a small open short position but I don’t give a damn. It is only a third of last month’s trading profits.  It’s a 5x leverage and nothing would make me happier than being liquidated.  



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The relation between Mt.Gox and Kraken

In June 2011, Jesse Powell hops a last-minute flight to Tokyo to help what was then the largest Bitcoin exchange in the world, MtGox, recover from a hacking attack.......After seeing how poorly MtGox is run, and knowing that the exchange is the most critical part of the Bitcoin ecosystem, Jesse decides to build the first truly professional exchange
source :https://blog.kraken.com/post/891/kraken-is-born/

Jesse Powell knew Mt. Gox was not long for this world more than two years before the once-dominant bitcoin exchange went bankrupt in February.
source : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-17/mt-gox-insider-s-kraken-exchange-to-open-in-japan-next-month

In a 6 Jan 2015 interview, Kraken bitcoin exchange CEO Jesse Powell discussed being appointed by the bankruptcy trustee to assist in processing claims by the 127,000 creditors of Mt. Gox. .....An article in the New York Times pointed out that the process of returning funds could significantly benefit Kraken because creditors will probably have to create a Kraken account to get their money back and some of them might continue using the exchange.

The New York Attorney General's Office began a fact finding investigation in April 2018 on the measures taken by cryptocurrency exchanges to protect their customers and fight market manipulation  and money laundering. The New York State attorney general warned that the Kraken cryptocurrency exchange might be breaking the law.

The investigation was not welcomed by Jesse Powell, the CEO of Kraken, who declared that the investigation was hostile and bad for business. Powell refused to comply with the inquiry.

instead of helping Mt.Gox, he set up a devil plan to dominate the market for his own interests. That's why Kraken is like a bank system that not benefit the cryptocurrency. anyway he said it "investigation was hostile and bad for business"
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February 08, 2019, 08:18:42 PM

guys guys

DOLLAR HACKED!!!

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/violent-crime/bank-robbery/bank-robbery-news
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February 08, 2019, 08:19:29 PM

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The problem I see is that according to forum rules:

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He is currently breaking forum rules. It would be a good proof of good faith if he just stopped using YOUR avatar until he has his own customized one by xhomerx.

Just saying.....

I think that I understand what you are saying that there is a kind of misleading effect from avatar use... but I think that "impersonation" requires some level of "intent" to impersonate... direct evidence or inferred.  

I don't think that, so far, 33bitcoin's conduct rises to such level...... but since I am a pretty regular poster, there could be some deceptive impact (unintentional creating an impression)  that could happen to mislead from the use of my avatar.


idk just thought it looked cool, no1 made me one

Maybe if Xhomer makes 33bitcoin a hat avatar, then we can just get 33bticoin to wear it and resolve any further ambiguity without too much extra drama?
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February 08, 2019, 08:21:48 PM

TBH I thought a couple of posts by him were yours. 
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February 08, 2019, 08:27:42 PM

TBH I thought a couple of posts by him were yours. 

I did.

I thought it was a forum glitch or some shit like that.
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February 08, 2019, 08:28:33 PM

Yes yes the price went up slightly, much excitement.

In other news, Roger Stone got swatted in the middle of the night. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/429104-surveillance-footage-of-stone-arrest-aired-by-sinclair

Swatted is not the proper term in this situation because it was an official arrest. 

Swatted is a practice of making shit up about someone to attempt to cause their location to be mistakenly visited by swat, in order to attempt to harass them.
Quote the article for us. How many cops? How many cars? How many choppers? How many weapons pointed at him when he answered the door?

O.k.  So you are wanting to suggest that the term "swatting" is appropriate because of the excessive level of force and seeming showmanship that is going on with this already high profile case? 
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Yes yes the price went up slightly, much excitement.

In other news, Roger Stone got swatted in the middle of the night. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/429104-surveillance-footage-of-stone-arrest-aired-by-sinclair

Swatted is not the proper term in this situation because it was an official arrest. 

Swatted is a practice of making shit up about someone to attempt to cause their location to be mistakenly visited by swat, in order to attempt to harass them.
Quote the article for us. How many cops? How many cars? How many choppers? How many weapons pointed at him when he answered the door?

O.k.  So you are wanting to suggest that the term "swatting" is appropriate because of the excessive level of force and seeming showmanship that is going on with this already high profile case? 
It was a literal swat team. It says so right there in the article. What is your major malfunction you faggoty dancing idiot?
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/do-cats-control-my-mind/282045/

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Toxo has been all over the news in recent years, since it became known that the parasite manipulates people’s behavior. Maybe most interestingly and notoriously, it seems to make men more introverted, suspicious, unattractive to women, and oblivious to the way others see them. Infected women, inversely, have been shown to be more outgoing, trusting, sexually adventurous, attractive to men, and image-conscious. Infected men tend to break more rules than their uninfected peers, and infected women tend to pay them more heed. Infected men and women are 2.5 times more likely to have traffic accidents, more likely to develop schizophrenia, and more likely to engage in self-directed violence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii

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We have trained, by means of this gentle biological warfare, your women to let us into your homes, and your men to stay home and scratch us in our difficult places.


It is all starting to make sense...

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see if I can slip this by..  Next resistance level is at $49.75   Nice volumes.

1h

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February 08, 2019, 08:30:55 PM

A sincere apologize... I was scammed. In short the pivx team launched recently another chain (at least that I know), while pretending to care about pivx and taking the devs funds of course. For some it's another proof on how centralized and scammy those alts are. 0 independant devs, and who knows what shenigans they are running in reality.

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Sorry.

I don't think anybody here gives a damn about some losers and their worthless shitcoin(s).  Grin 

But many of us do give a damn about people who are taken in by these scams and appreciate hearing them called out.
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I am the real Jay Juan Gee!


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^ Just so you can finally shut up repeating the same old argument over and over. Yes, we are going to a cashless society. That is probably already irreversible, it's just a matter of time.
No, I don't think states are supporting Bitcoin for that nor they really need to but if that were the case it would go to the moon first.

Now just fucking stop FFS.

What do you mean we are going to a cashless society?

The only time I have used cash in the past 12 months was when I was defeated by a parking machine in a UK seaside town which would not let me out without a pound coin.  I had to go to an ATM and then to a pub to buy a beer so I could get a coin.  Fucking savages in the UK.

Well that's exactly what I mean. I still profusely use cash because of reasons. Most people don't because of convenience. But we are going onto a path where soon will come the day that we won't be able to use cash (for the most part) even if WE WANTED TO.

Most euro countries you can not even buy a high end TV set using cash. It's forbidden by law. They will keep decreasing the max limits over time.

Why?

Because cash is way harder to control than banking fiat or even Bitcoin.

cash is the ultimate privacy token. which is why powers that be hate it (even though they control the supply) ;-)

don't write it off. it has uses. Going cashless will mean less freedom


 Speaking of the powers that be, does anyone know how many variations of Dragon Balls there are?  I spent a few hours watching old Dragon Balls videos on YouTube just to figure out what character was in afbitcoins avatar... turns out it isn't Vegeta!  Who knew?

 

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February 08, 2019, 08:38:09 PM
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The next bitcoin halvening is in ~472 days.

Currently 1800 new coins mined everyday.

That will be cut in half to 900 with an 1.8% inflation rate.

Why does this matter?

It marks the date when bitcoin becomes less inflationary than central banks annual rate target of below 2%.

https://twitter.com/AlecZiupsnys/status/1093568234647887876

The launch if the Bitcoin Network in 2009 was a global earthquake.

Now is time for the tsunami.

If the previous halvenings led to 100x increase of price without institutional investors, imagine what will happen if they come. One of the biggest ETF companies in USA stated recently that they expect at least 10bil investment in Bitcoin ETF per year. And this is only one company. At current prices that would be 2.8 mil bitcoins! When (not if!) bakkt is approved it will surely lead to an ETF approval may be this year. After all, bakkt is initiated by NYSE and the ETF is initiated by CBOE. It is not a coincidence that after the refiling of the CBOE ETF proposal, SEC created a new crypto division to study the ledger technology and to see that there are no gaps in it. According to some lawers this most probably means that they intend to give an approval based on a positive report about the distributed ledger technology. So, while the small fish dump their precious bitcoins in the daily trade, they will miss the shocking explosion in the price in the coming 2 years.  We shall wait and see.  Wink

Edit. There is a new tweet by Hester Peirce confirming the leaked interview by the Democrat SEC commisioner P. Jackson about a coming ETF approval.
https://twitter.com/HesterPeirce/status/1093604854709264384
Also lets recall a recent interview of J. Clayton:
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/jay-clayton-optimistic-about-blockchain-and-cryptocurrencies-emerging-investment-landscape/
...Jay Clayton seems very optimistic about the future of the cryptocurrency space. During a testimony that he gave to the United States Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Development, Mr. Clayton, the chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, said that blockchain and virtual currencies will facilitate capital formation.
During the hearing, he emphasized his optimism about the development of distributed ledger technology (DLT). According to what he said, blockchain will be providing new investment opportunities for traditional investors, including institutions.


Hhmmm yes I'm a prophet! Roll Eyes Grin Grin
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February 08, 2019, 08:39:28 PM

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It was a literal swat team. It says so right there in the article. What is your major malfunction you faggoty dancing idiot?

That escalated quickly. 

I doubt that I am being unfair in my statement about the use of the term "swatting" that you brought into the matter in order to attempt to dramatize the non-bitcoin related news more than necessary.. because perhaps you would rather be in a politics thread or to divert this conversation into sympathies for your right wing anti-governmental ideologies.

Anyhow, your level of hostility seems to show that probably you are watching too much fox news and similar kinds of right winged anti-government misinformation news sources to become sympathetic with right winged criminals when it suits your political emotions?   Cry Cry

Again, do these latest, "swatting" if you will, developments have anything to do with bitcoin, except that the whole Trump administration is filled with various self-dealing cover-up and corrupt criminals who are getting arrested with likely more drama than necessary?
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February 08, 2019, 08:44:24 PM

A sincere apologize... I was scammed. In short the pivx team launched recently another chain (at least that I know), while pretending to care about pivx and taking the devs funds of course. For some it's another proof on how centralized and scammy those alts are. 0 independant devs, and who knows what shenigans they are running in reality.

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Sorry.

I don't think anybody here gives a damn about some losers and their worthless shitcoin(s).  Grin 

But many of us do give a damn about people who are taken in by these scams and appreciate hearing them called out.

C'mon these guys don't even need to be called out. It's like a low-level Nigerian 419 scam you have to be retarded to buy it. If your IQ is greater than 60 you simply can't get victimized.
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Whoaza!!!!!  It is funny how so much bullshit misinformation gets out there and then gets amplified.  Part of the effectiveness of the misinformation is that it would have been a pretty dramatic shift in Tom Lee's position, if it had been true, and it also would have been consistent with some other Bear calls.

On another note, related to misinformation, the misinformation about "the longest bear market ever" is another misinformation matter that has been getting on my nerves, lately, because I have seen even a lot of smart people (including prominent podcasters) repeating such "the longest bear market ever"  misinformation. 

I will concede that if BTC prices were to go below $3,120 at any time in the future, then BTC prices would, in those circumstances, reach the "longest bar market ever" but until then, it has not happened, and BTC is still NOT in the longest bear market ever.  Accordingly, since December 15.. BTC prices have largely been in a kind of flat range (at least, so far, not able to get back above $4,200 or so).

His exact quote, as he confirmed recently on twitter:
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February 08, 2019, 08:49:46 PM

https://roarmag.org/essays/the-gentrification-of-payments/
doesn't mention btc, because it's a democratic rag, but interesting article
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Yes yes the price went up slightly, much excitement.

In other news, Roger Stone got swatted in the middle of the night. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/429104-surveillance-footage-of-stone-arrest-aired-by-sinclair

Swatted is not the proper term in this situation because it was an official arrest.  

Swatted is a practice of making shit up about someone to attempt to cause their location to be mistakenly visited by swat, in order to attempt to harass them.
Quote the article for us. How many cops? How many cars? How many choppers? How many weapons pointed at him when he answered the door?

It happened two weeks ago. Anyway, they know there's basically a 0% chance that he's any sort of threat or flight risk.

Despite that, they send a small army of jack-booted thugs with machine guns to kick his door in, in the middle of the night.

From another article:
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“At the crack of dawn, 29 FBI agents arrived at my home with 17 vehicles, with lights flashing, when they could have contacted my lawyer,” Stone explained after a court appearance Friday.

Once again, the deep state tries to intimidate anyone aligned against them with a show of force. Modus operandi of the left.
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February 08, 2019, 08:57:38 PM

https://roarmag.org/essays/the-gentrification-of-payments/
doesn't mention btc, because it's a democratic rag, but interesting article

What about all those starving kids in Ethiopia that are supposed to use Bitcoin?
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