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Question: Dec. 14 Closing Price:
<$6,000 - 10 (11%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 5 (5.5%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 10 (11%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 13 (14.3%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 18 (19.8%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 11 (12.1%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 4 (4.4%)
>$9,000 - 20 (22%)
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February 16, 2019, 02:52:59 AM

What central banks can't control is the whirlwind that will be the inevitable result from the stupid policies adopted back in the 1910-1913 timeframe. All they will be able to do is react to the debt-fueled collapse of the world economic system.

If you are waiting for the ‘inevitable’ result of something that happened over 100 years ago, you may be waiting a wee while longer.  Perhaps a few more hundred years.  

Technically you CAN kick the can down the road on the debt bubble infinitely by just debasing the debt/currency - hence Cheney saying things like "deficits don't matter" - but the newly printed money would actually have to reach the hands of the general public instead of just going to 0.01% of the population or it would do nothing.  

The general public mostly has no assets and only has debt nowadays, so even if you wanted to rig some type of asset they own upwards to create inflation, it's not even possible because they have no assets.  This leaves you only with options like canceling their debts and Ben Bernanke helicopter money.  This is what the Trump tax cuts were the start of that make zero economic sense from a budget perspective.

If the purpose of bitcoin is a govt scheme, bancor note to devalue the dollar against, it failed miserably because it centralized immediately after creation.  Barely anyone owns bitcoins due to it's mining centralization (ASICs that turned it into a pyramid scam), and then it's just whales like the Winklevozz and Pantera capital and such that own all those.  Anyway, once your economy is at the stage where the wealth is concentrated in so few hands, you're at peak debt saturation among the peasants with no way to service any of it,  and you're required to redistribute massive amounts of capital back to the hands of the general population for the system to continue at all, it's kind of the end.

If I was a Keynesian trying to fix it, there's really no need to do helicopter money right out in the open when you can do it in a backdoor manner.  I mean, they can lower taxes to zero if they want, raise social security benefits to the moon, cancel student debts, stop trying to rig metals downwards and let them explode 10x or more upwards, stop allowing in H1b's and Mexicans to depress wages, then you raise interest rates to the sky which corrects the price of the housing bubble downwards compared to wages and other assets, while simultaneously saving retirement funds.
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February 16, 2019, 02:55:13 AM

xrp is one of the coins primed to do another 90% down?

Hah, a casino host told me he was all in on that shit when he heard me talking BTC and I told him dump that shit and he still thinks he's gonna moon. Lol

Met a guy on a plane.  He was so into XRP.  It’s the money of the future.  All the banks are using it.  I didn’t have the heart to tell him (and he probably wouldn’t have listened anyway).  

Those xrp zombies are complete gloss eyed fools, they really believe the koolaid they drank. It's shocking there can be such idiots in reasonable positions. I think they are just too lazy to do ANY research.
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February 16, 2019, 02:56:21 AM

Good afternoon WO. I have missed a lot in the last few days however BTC price is unchanged.

sideways price and 10 WO pages, Ugg

Just you wait for the bull market in WO pages.

Yeah, I just added like a page of posts from the last 7 or 8 hours. Doh
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February 16, 2019, 02:57:15 AM

Hmmm what you recommend I try to get my wife to watch?   Something like Game of Thrones would be good.

Jessica Jones. Smiley
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February 16, 2019, 02:59:19 AM

We must accept our jewish master. We live to serve them.

Micgoossens has that tattoo.

I know, I know. I shouldn't quote him but I couldn't help it.

Tattoo?

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/avn78e/manwoman-is-taking-back-the-swastika
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I met this guy back in 1976 where he was silk-screening pornographic t-shirts in the back of a jewelry store on Cranbrooke BC.

Dude was wearing a gingham dress, frilly apron and work boots, had his hair in an up-do, and a full beard. He had his head down so I couldn't see his face.

When I asked if he was "Jeff" (who I'd been sent to for possible photo enlargements), he looked up at me with intense eyes, revealing a sideways third eye tattooed on his forehead and intoned, "I am ManWoman!"

I replied, "I am Jimbo!" He jumped back, broke into laughter, shook my hand and asked if he could help me in any way. He couldn't. His equipment wasn't large enough for the images I required.

I ran into him several times later in other towns and he always seemed to have an entourage of stunningly good-looking women half his age. The guy was definitely not LGBT. He was very much an alpha and a true artist.

They don't make 'em like that any more. RIP ManWoman.
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February 16, 2019, 03:03:11 AM
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We must accept our jewish master. We live to serve them.

Micgoossens has that tattoo.

I know, I know. I shouldn't quote him but I couldn't help it.

Tattoo?

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/avn78e/manwoman-is-taking-back-the-swastika
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I met this guy back in 1976 where he was silk-screening pornographic t-shirts in the back of a jewelry store on Cranbrooke BC.

Dude was wearing a gingham dress, frilly apron and work boots, had his hair in an up-do, and a full beard. He had his head down so I couldn't see his face.

When I asked if he was "Jeff" (who I'd been sent to for possible photo enlargements), he looked up at me with intense eyes, revealing a sideways third eye tattooed on his forehead and intoned, "I am ManWoman!"

I replied, "I am Jimbo!" He jumped back, broke into laughter, shook my hand and asked if he could help me in any way. He couldn't. His equipment wasn't large enough for the images I required.

I ran into him several times later in other towns and he always seemed to have an entourage of stunningly good-looking women half his age. The guy was definitely not LGBT. He was very much an alpha and a true artist.

They don't make 'em like that any more. RIP ManWoman.



Damn.
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February 16, 2019, 03:04:30 AM

My browser blocked Vice since it's owned by the evil cult of Judaism media company Disney.
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February 16, 2019, 03:10:01 AM

Unbarted debarts
and the living is easy
but she still feels fake.

Sounds like George Gershwin. In Haiku
The reference was intentional indeed  Wink
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Hahaha.  A patent on exercising a cat by pointing a laser pointer at the floor.  

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Method of exercising a cat

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A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor or wall or other opaque surface in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser so as to cause the bright pattern of light to move in an irregular way fascinating to cats, and to any other animal with a chase instinct.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5443036



A 2016 patent on using an algorithm to personalise marketing material for digital delivery

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8738435

A 2016 patent on using a computer to organise crew shifts

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6633900

A 2016 patent for storing video content on the cloud

https://www.google.com/patents/US8856221


I guarantee CSW's patents are equally ridiculous.  But I seriously can't be arsed looking them up.  






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February 16, 2019, 04:09:47 AM

Great! New poll is up. Grin

Still rooting for over $6,000, and still hoping that despite not getting right all of my previous prediction, we will make it right this time.
Bullish here, always...
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February 16, 2019, 04:23:15 AM

99% debasement of the currency's purchasing power after 100 years? Not really dude, we're already living that reality. The world economy is currently on life support. Won't take another 100 years, more like 20.

Very good. I have popped 15 February 2039 into my diary.  I’m pretty free on that day.

What happened? You aren't coming to the 1 million party?
I suggest we have the 1 million party in a hotel on the fucking moon.
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1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.

1.   Again laughable. We all know you are just talking your book.  It’s just a shame you consistently pick the losing side.

2. Australian Tax Office.  Last I heard they liquidated his Cloudcroft supercomputer company in mid 2017 (which I believe was after he started Nchain).   Read into Cloudcroft.  It’s a doozy.  There is nothing this guy does that isn’t mired in controversy and fraud.  Why haven’t they caught him and extradited him?  Dunno.  Underfunding by the conservative government ? Incompetence ?  They don’t think there is any money in it?

3.  I am not claiming specific patents are invalid.  I am claiming that there is a very high probability that they are all troll bullshit.  You are the one defending this crook.  
1. You make way too many assumptions about people's intentions.

3. He never said they weren't as far as I can tell. Why can't you just base your responses around what has been written without your own interpolations that always go off who knows where? Also, he doesn't seem to be defending anyone here.
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Hahaha.  A patent on exercising a cat by pointing a laser pointer at the floor.  

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Method of exercising a cat

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A method for inducing cats to exercise consists of directing a beam of invisible light produced by a hand-held laser apparatus onto the floor or wall or other opaque surface in the vicinity of the cat, then moving the laser so as to cause the bright pattern of light to move in an irregular way fascinating to cats, and to any other animal with a chase instinct.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5443036



A 2016 patent on using an algorithm to personalise marketing material for digital delivery

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8738435

A 2016 patent on using a computer to organise crew shifts

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6633900

A 2016 patent for storing video content on the cloud

https://www.google.com/patents/US8856221


I guarantee CSW's patents are equally ridiculous.  But I seriously can't be arsed looking them up.  







Don't patents cost at least a few thousands to register? With random general tech bullshit it makes sense if you want to be a twat and sue people. But fucking cat exercise method? Rich troll?
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1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.

1.   Again laughable. We all know you are just talking your book.  It’s just a shame you consistently pick the losing side.

2. Australian Tax Office.  Last I heard they liquidated his Cloudcroft supercomputer company in mid 2017 (which I believe was after he started Nchain).   Read into Cloudcroft.  It’s a doozy.  There is nothing this guy does that isn’t mired in controversy and fraud.  Why haven’t they caught him and extradited him?  Dunno.  Underfunding by the conservative government ? Incompetence ?  They don’t think there is any money in it?

3.  I am not claiming specific patents are invalid.  I am claiming that there is a very high probability that they are all troll bullshit.  You are the one defending this crook.  
1. You make way too many assumptions about people's intentions.

3. He never said they weren't as far as I can tell. Why can't you just base your responses around what has been written without your own interpolations that always go off who knows where? Also, he doesn't seem to be defending anyone here.

I don't understand why you are defending either jbreher or craig wright, merely because you dislike hairy?

Who gives a ratt's ass about about whether hairy's points are logically valid or well supported by evidence, there is no need to defend either jbreher nor craig wright and the various fraudulent scam claims that craig wright has made including his ongoing non-contributions to the bitcoin space. and whether craig wright has valid patents or not does not matter because craig wright is a phoney balony distractor to other ongoing important and positive activities and developments in the bitcoin space.
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February 16, 2019, 05:06:04 AM

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1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.

1.   Again laughable. We all know you are just talking your book.  It’s just a shame you consistently pick the losing side.

2. Australian Tax Office.  Last I heard they liquidated his Cloudcroft supercomputer company in mid 2017 (which I believe was after he started Nchain).   Read into Cloudcroft.  It’s a doozy.  There is nothing this guy does that isn’t mired in controversy and fraud.  Why haven’t they caught him and extradited him?  Dunno.  Underfunding by the conservative government ? Incompetence ?  They don’t think there is any money in it?

3.  I am not claiming specific patents are invalid.  I am claiming that there is a very high probability that they are all troll bullshit.  You are the one defending this crook.  
1. You make way too many assumptions about people's intentions.

3. He never said they weren't as far as I can tell. Why can't you just base your responses around what has been written without your own interpolations that always go off who knows where? Also, he doesn't seem to be defending anyone here.

I don't understand why you are defending either jbreher or craig wright, merely because you dislike hairy?
That is not what is happening. Refer to point 1.
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February 16, 2019, 05:56:25 AM
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A map of 2015 followed by a map of 2019.  

Green = 30 MA
Yellow = 50 MA
Orange = 100 MA
Red = 200WMA.  It only starts late in 2015 on Bitstamp.


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February 16, 2019, 06:55:55 AM

A map of 2015 followed by a map of 2019.  

Green = 30 MA
Yellow = 50 MA
Orange = 100 MA
Red = 200WMA.  It only starts late in 2015 on Bitstamp.



So expect a hell of a long sideways ? That's what I am taking from this.
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February 16, 2019, 07:13:16 AM
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Woke UP

Just another day where bitcoin isn’t dead

And just become stronger with being another day more among us

Buy and hodl (thank me later silent readers)
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micg in da HOUSE
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