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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Good afternoon WO. After a day break I am back. I see bitcoin still floating on $3,700 to $3,900. What have I missed?

[Arriemoller]

If this isn't a bull trap on the minute scale MAs we're probably going back to 4xxx for a bit at least. The next 21 hours are critical etc.


Edit: Happy birthday Arrie.

Thank you.

[El duderino_]

Good afternoon WO. After a day break I am back. I see bitcoin still floating on $3,700 to $3,900. What have I missed?

Arrie’s bday .....
Mic’s breakfast
Over all not to much exciting

[Cryptotourist]

Hell, that is one hell of a stupid move. Why would they send private keys unencrypted anywhere?

So that they can say 'honest mistake' whilst in reality it was all intended & carefully thought out.
I can't believe they can be that reckless. Now they will have lawsuits up their ass.
Who knows how many people are/will be affected.

RIP Coinomi.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

There’s a thread in Bitcoin Discussion about this. Guy from this forum lost $70,000 worth of bitcoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114708.0

That's a messed up situation for the OP. I hope he gets his coins back. He did a great job sharing the story. I am safe anyway, I use Electrum 2/2 multiSig for my savings.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Good afternoon WO. After a day break I am back. I see bitcoin still floating on $3,700 to $3,900. What have I missed?

Arrie’s bday .....
Mic’s breakfast
Over all not to much exciting

Happy late bday Arrie
Enjoy the breakfast mic.
I am trying to catch up with the back logs.

I enjoy hanging around WO and gambling boards LOL

[vroom]

https://twitter.com/udiwertheimer/status/1100695288128385024?s=21

Hell, that is one hell of a stupid move. Why would they send private keys unencrypted anywhere?

there are already some people complaining about lost funds. I don't question that this google spell check is a stupid move, but I don't understand how this should leak the private key? the google spell check is (hopefully) a https requests, which is encrypted. and google will not leak the keys for sure. so what did leak the keys?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Arriemoller my man!

[Cryptotourist]

That's a messed up situation for the OP. I hope he gets his coins back. He did a great job sharing the story. I am safe anyway, I use Electrum 2/2 multiSig for my savings.

Actually it's a shitstorm.
Many electrum/update hacks though. Also a red flag for me.

Cold storage wallet/paper only - no hot wallets for my savings.

[vapourminer]

Everyone listen up, I got victimize of electrum phishing today.
I loss my BTC, just want to share so you will know guys, you can read my story here - 2018 Crypto theft overview

I decided not to reinstall an OS and just run an anti virus to scan my computers, it's still safe for me?

even thought that fake electrum is supposedly limited in what it does there is no way i would trust that OS again. especially as you mention in the other thread about having keys in plain .txt and excel files stored on it.

i would immediately move all the crypto that has the private keys stored in plain text or excel to new addresses (do it in a clean computer, perhaps from a live ubuntu cd, open office can read excel files i believe) reformat and reinstall everything.

one thing you may want to do is a complete clone of the drive that this happened on before wiping and reinstalling, just for archive purposes in case you want to reference anything on it later. macrium reflect free can do this and you can mount the image as a virtual drive. but i would treat that image very carefully. and of course you need a separate drive big enough to hold the compressed image.

EDIT: i would stronly suggest a hardware wallet. i have ledger nano s, trezor one and trezor t. i like the trezors more. the trezor one has a very long history and i trust it the most.

[vapourminer]

* who is far more  stupider? *

ooooh pick me! pick me!

oh, wait..

[Gyrsur]

https://i.ibb.co/4YwfvFS/24-C54278-B7-F6-454-F-9370-ACEEC4-DF9083.jpg

https://twitter.com/udiwertheimer/status/1100695288128385024?s=21

Hell, that is one hell of a stupid move. Why would they send private keys unencrypted anywhere?

there are already some people complaining about lost funds. I don't question that this google spell check is a stupid move, but I don't understand how this should leak the private key? the google spell check is (hopefully) a https requests, which is encrypted. and google will not leak the keys for sure. so what did leak the keys?

he claims that someone at Google extracted and used the passphrase after HTTPS decryption and not in between as I understand it.

Recap
To recap the events for further investigation:

• My first passphrase attempt was sent to googleapis.com through Coinomi wallet was on 14th February 2019
• Google’s employee or whoever has control over the data that are sent to googleapis.com processed the data that had my passphrase and that was between 14th and 19th February 2019
• My crypto assets were stolen on 19th February 2019 starting around 3:30 am UTC and the transactions continued for 15 minutes. At the end 90% of the assets were gone and remaining assets were only left because these assets were supported by Exodus wallet but NOT Coinomi wallet (what a coincidence you say!)

Please note that I took all the security precaution to keep my passphrase and wallet safe. I have a separate isolated virtual machine for it with Anti-Virus/Anti-Malware and firewall installed. I also had other wallets on the same virtual machine for years. Nothing was stolen except for the wallet which I recently used my passphrase in, which is Coinomi wallet!

[vroom]

https://i.ibb.co/4YwfvFS/24-C54278-B7-F6-454-F-9370-ACEEC4-DF9083.jpg

https://twitter.com/udiwertheimer/status/1100695288128385024?s=21

Hell, that is one hell of a stupid move. Why would they send private keys unencrypted anywhere?

there are already some people complaining about lost funds. I don't question that this google spell check is a stupid move, but I don't understand how this should leak the private key? the google spell check is (hopefully) a https requests, which is encrypted. and google will not leak the keys for sure. so what did leak the keys?

he claims that someone at Google extract and used the passphrase after HTTPS decryption and not in between as I understand it.

Recap
To recap the events for further investigation:

• My first passphrase attempt was sent to googleapis.com through Coinomi wallet was on 14th February 2019
• Google’s employee or whoever has control over the data that are sent to googleapis.com processed the data that had my passphrase and that was between 14th and 19th February 2019
• My crypto assets were stolen on 19th February 2019 starting around 3:30 am UTC and the transactions continued for 15 minutes. At the end 90% of the assets were gone and remaining assets were only left because these assets were supported by Exodus wallet but NOT Coinomi wallet (what a coincidence you say!)

Please note that I took all the security precaution to keep my passphrase and wallet safe. I have a separate isolated virtual machine for it with Anti-Virus/Anti-Malware and firewall installed. I also had other wallets on the same virtual machine for years. Nothing was stolen except for the wallet which I recently used my passphrase in, which is Coinomi wallet!

That would be a very bad publicity for google if this is true. It's also possible that the anti-virus/anti-malware software is the cause of this leak. they "open" encrypted https requests and look inside to search for possible threats.

[El duderino_]

Good afternoon WO. After a day break I am back. I see bitcoin still floating on $3,700 to $3,900. What have I missed?

Arrie’s bday .....
Mic’s breakfast
Over all not to much exciting

Happy late bday Arrie
Enjoy the breakfast mic.
I am trying to catch up with the back logs.

I enjoy hanging around WO and gambling boards LOL

Who doesn’t like the WO thread

[El duderino_]

BNP-paribas to cut 1000 of jobs

Banks and banksters

[Gyrsur]

This would be a very bad publicity for google if this is true. It's also possible that the anti-virus/anti-malware software is the cause of this leak. they "open" encrypted https requests and look inside to search for threats.

this is absolutely right! Bitdefender is such a piece of s**t! also be aware of that in some companies the employees are observed with HTTPS proxies. you have in your Browser a intermediate certificate installed and your employer is aware of all your HTTPS traffic. EVERYTHING which you think of it's hidden.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Who doesn’t like the WO thread

r0ach?

Actually it's a shitstorm.
Many electrum/update hacks though. Also a red flag for me.

Cold storage wallet/paper only - no hot wallets for my savings.

I feel safe with 2/2 multiSig wallet. I use two device for each key. One device I use for daily works and another one which has the 2nd key is only for that wallet. I do not go online from that unless I need to broadcast a transaction.

[xhomerx10]

Free willy?

Hungover today, bleargh

I have some medicine for you buddy

 Last call used to be 12:30am where I lived... I am familiar with this concept.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

"Research: Following Crypto Whales, Bitcoin Retail Investors Began To Accumulate"

HODLers have also continued to keep their cryptocurrency tight, indicating that such investors see long-term success in Bitcoin’s future. They likely see a light at the end of the tunnel, if you will. A purported 97% of addresses holding either five or ten BTC, which hold 2% of all Bitcoin in circulation, have purportedly yet to issue outgoing transactions.

https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/02/27/following-crypto-whales-bitcoin-retail-investors-accumulate/

[vapourminer]

he claims that someone at Google extract and used the passphrase after HTTPS decryption and not in between as I understand it.

Recap
To recap the events for further investigation:

• My first passphrase attempt was sent to googleapis.com through Coinomi wallet was on 14th February 2019
• Google’s employee or whoever has control over the data that are sent to googleapis.com processed the data that had my passphrase and that was between 14th and 19th February 2019
• My crypto assets were stolen on 19th February 2019 starting around 3:30 am UTC and the transactions continued for 15 minutes. At the end 90% of the assets were gone and remaining assets were only left because these assets were supported by Exodus wallet but NOT Coinomi wallet (what a coincidence you say!)

Please note that I took all the security precaution to keep my passphrase and wallet safe. I have a separate isolated virtual machine for it with Anti-Virus/Anti-Malware and firewall installed. I also had other wallets on the same virtual machine for years. Nothing was stolen except for the wallet which I recently used my passphrase in, which is Coinomi wallet!

[...] It's also possible that the anti-virus/anti-malware software is the cause of this leak. they "open" encrypted https requests and look inside to search for possible threats.

1st thing i do with any antivirus/antimalware i install is uncheck all things like "submit samples" and such. there are usually several places and types of things AV can and wants send by default. that way it minimizes the chance a private key or anything else sensitive will be sent to the AV servers.