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Question: 1/24 Closing Price:
<$32,000 - 19 (22.1%)
$32,000-$33,000 - 9 (10.5%)
$33,000-$34,000 - 2 (2.3%)
$34,000-$35,000 - 8 (9.3%)
$35,000-$36,000 - 11 (12.8%)
$36,000-$37,000 - 7 (8.1%)
$37,000-$38,000 - 7 (8.1%)
$38,000-$39,000 - 1 (1.2%)
$39,000-$40,000 - 4 (4.7%)
$40,000-$41,000 - 2 (2.3%)
$41,000-$42,000 - 0 (0%)
>$42,000 - 16 (18.6%)
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https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2019/03/us-marshals-want-help-disposing-virtual-currencies/155381/
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Stored cryptocurrencies must be kept in a segregated digital wallet set aside specifically for the Marshals Service and must be safeguarded against “theft, human error, system failures and acts of God,” the documents state. The contractor must also be able to “brute force,” or be able to hack into, wallets that are “locked by error or technical difficulties,” enabling marshals to gain access no matter what happens.

On the disposal side, the winning vendor must be able to convert the digital currencies to physical money, either by exchanging directly to U.S. dollars, exchanging for more liquid virtual currencies and assets or through a sealed-bid auction. The contractor must also have a mechanism for returning seized assets to the original owners when required.
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Has anyone made projections on potential permanent loss of Bitcoins resulting from seizure due to criminal activity over time?
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In its request, the Army asked for help enabling the Advanced Targeting and Lethality Automated System (ATLAS) to “acquire, identify, and engage targets at least 3X faster than the current manual process.” But that language apparently scared some people who are worried about the rise of AI-powered killing machines.



meanwhile the price is really trying to go up

I never understood the whole human fetish. Sure, we might be in human shells, but how exactly is it bad to swap them out once possible? We've technically done so through evolution anyways, so nothing new is happening here other than the increased speed.

I'm also pretty sure that virtually nobody would say no if they could swap between flying around as a bird and their usual human shell. This isn't really any different other than a gross misunderstanding of what constitutes as life.
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March 09, 2019, 01:09:28 AM
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Exactly, it's about being an individual, a personality. The physical form is secondary (yet bound to some minimum requirements regarding sensing, interacting and mobility to be able to develop personality to a sufficient degree).

I see AI or "non-biological" form or some hybrid solution the next evolutionary leap. Yes it can be evolution if it's designed as many things will be designed and compete for survival.
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March 09, 2019, 01:14:54 AM

Funny how accurate the tweet is. Here's a comment from the video:

"Tom7
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Exciting times. So glad all the NPCs parroting "BSV is a scam" will not be a part of this future, Bitcoin is truly an IQ test. "

And his avatar is the Indian guy wearing clothes made of gold.



And while I'm not sure it means much, since I'm quite biased against SV, the guy in the video looks disingenuous as hell and like the type of person I would never drop my guard around.
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Nobody ever said 100 percent. Nothing is 100 percent, this is just obvious. You say its stupid to call an outcome 100 percent, well I agree with this, never claimed 100 percent accuracy, and will point out this is no revelation.  

Words have meaning.  So sometimes your words will add up to too high of a level of certainty, so even if the implied meaning is less than 100%, the words are still committing too much to describing the future with too high degrees of certainty.

You have your opinions on probabilities that we are in a Bear Market, I have my opinions on probabilities that we are in a Bull Market and the bottom is in.

No problem.  I never suggested that people have to agree here, but if you start saying ridiculous things, that can cause responses from peeps like me.

Neither one of us can prove it, only time will do that.  

There is no need to prove a prediction.  Anyone can make predictions; however, if you express predictions as anywhere near certainty, even if you are not using terms such as "100%" blah blah blah, if you are stating matters in way too certain ways, then you are likely to get disagreement responses.. or just people telling you to shut up with your seeming sorcery nonsense.

Parading your opinion that market conditions favor down as fact would be deceptive.

I am not sure whether what I am saying is as severe as you seem to be trying to make it out to be.  Currently, all I am saying on a personal and more specific level is that the odds for down are 52% and the odds for up are 48%.  There is nothing outrageous about that because what I am saying is only slightly in favor of down, so the difference between the odds for up and down are not even very different from one another.. only just slightly in favor of down.

This is an observation, not an accusation.

Hey, until we broke below $6k, I was frequently attacking various posters for "prematurely" saying that we were in a bear market.. but once we broke below $6k, such description seemed to have become more accurate... or at least fair.

By the way, I would not get on your case as much if you were asserting that we are in a bull market since 2009, but instead you are trying to frame your stupid ass position from 83 days.. which is ridiculous, especially since the peak of the price was more than a year ago, and you are merely trying to select the last 83 days from that in order to make your claim.   So to give you a hint, I would likely not be so combative against your position if you were at least picking a point before December 2017 as your starting point, and you would have to go back to September 2017 or earlier for that and for your claim to a bull market makes reasonable sense in terms of both facts and logic.

As your claim stands now 83 or even 84 days makes no sense because it is a mere selective presentation.

Admitting its just what you think and anything is possible is fair and honest. Its just your best guess.

Are you trying to throw out all logic?  It's like when people are comparing politicians and varying levels of corruption. Sometimes at a certain point they just throw up their hands and assert that all politics are corrupt, even though there are degrees of corruption.

We are all guessing when it comes to predicting the future.

I don't think so.  You might be admitting to guessing.  I am not admitting to that.  I am attempting to assign probabilities to various outcomes.  Yes, I might end up being wrong, but I am not guessing.

I figured this was a given, but I dont mind pointing it out if its not.

Maybe that is part of the flaw in your presentation, if you try to assume too much about community expectations and what is presumed to be our logical or factual starting point(s)?

Nobody expects every post to have a boilerplate disclaimer paragraph at the bottom of each post explaining how its possible that their predictions might not be 100 percent correct.

I agree.  You don't have to do that.  Each of us have different ways of expressing our ideas, and also I understand in real world parlance there is a tendency to speak in absolutes.  However, if we are dealing with differing opinions shared on the interwebs, there might be ways that are more effective and less effective in terms of avoiding combative responses, if you are trying to avoid combative responses.  No matter what there is going to be some negative feedback, too.  That comes with the territory of active participation in a vast majority of public threads.

Anyway, thanks for the civil response.  Smiley

So far so good.  I only called you names a few times, and so far, you have only called me names a few times, so maybe we are mostly staying on-topic?


I still firmly believe we are 83 days into a Bull Market. This is my current view and only a break to new lows or some major fundamental change will change my opinion.  Grin

Now that you went through your whole litany of responses, what is your reason for your belief that we are in a bull market?  When did your belief trigger?  On December 16, as soon as the onslaught was over?  You have been making the assertion for a while, so at what point did it start?  How do you define reversal? What points triggered "reversal"?  Merely your belief and guess?

I missed the name calling on both sides. Glad we agree on the boilerplate part. As far as labeling our probabilities of future outcomes as guesses, I stand by that. The scientific method is based on hypotheses which are educated guesses based on prior knowledge and observation. Im not implying your guesses are random dart throws, but the implication is we make our best guesses, based on prior knowledge and observation. If you arent guessing, then you would be 100 percent certain. Basically you might not prefer my word choice(no worries), but it is accurate based on widely accepted definitions.

As for answering your last questions. These are good questions and while I do enjoy sharing my hypothesis that the bottom is in and the bull market is upon us, I at this time am not willing to share all of the inner workings and procedures that led to this decision, so I will have to respectfully decline those questions. Some of my knowledge and procedures I consider to be "proprietary" for lack of a better word. Im not selling anything to anyone, but it is the fruit of my labor from 16 years of investing and trading so I will keep the sauce recipe to myself. I will be serving that sauce though on Bear Meat to anyone who would like a sample Grin

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According to the 2014 / 15 crypto market schedule, the train is running on time.



This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.
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According to the 2014 / 15 crypto market schedule, the train is running on time.



This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.


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Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
Twitter—>copy—-> paste Roll Eyes

WoW of to the next place, this local El Nido AirPort is so small, check in, walk out into the plain (love those fast AirPorts)
Copy/paste has its place. There's no need to reinvent the wheel every single time.

To elaborate on my previous post. Copy/paste becomes a problem when it becomes the natural mindset for every situation with no attempts to generate unique thoughts. Also, people who fall into that category truly believe that whatever they happened to copy/paste is truth.
It also stops people from even considering other options, because school teaches you that one specific set of solutions is right, while others don't matter and/or are plain wrong. Reality could not be any further from that though.
Children are generally curious and open to everything, this changes once they hit school (or once their parents get tired of them asking questions).
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March 09, 2019, 01:30:50 AM

According to the 2014 / 15 crypto market schedule, the train is running on time.



This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.

I am in "capitulation" mode, remember. I am prepared for the worst... for the best I don't need to.

I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

That being said, today's bounce was nice even if with a shitty volume.
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This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.

I am in "capitulation" mode, remember. I am prepared for the worst... for the best I don't need to.

I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

Joking apart, I don't know what to think myself. I also am inclined to think some real despair is needed before the strong hands can move on.

As time passes, however, I see trend lines reversing and don't know what to make of it. What I've seen, a few times already, is that when she moves, she moves suddenly and unexpectedly. So we may be in for a rough ride indeed.

There are a couple of critical moments when the likeliness of traumatic plunges will be higher. Someone here mentioned the first half of May, and I thought it was a smart point. Can't remember what it was, though. Besides, I'm sure other keen participants would be able to provide hypotheses that are just as smart, while predicting the opposite.

So what do we know? Hodl.
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March 09, 2019, 02:28:18 AM

I might be alone with this but this modern day political correctness shit is annoying. I’m not interested in International Women’s Day.

Sounds like a load of bull shit to me.

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March 09, 2019, 02:36:24 AM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-08/fake-moneys-face-value-deceit

"So it was, with dishonest intentions, that he burgled a rare coin collection with no clue what it was that he’d taken.  To his soft and greedy mind all he saw was a hoard of coins with a face value of One Dollar.  Thus, he redeemed them for cash.  Zero Hedge offers the details:

“After stealing a rare coin collection from an elderly and disabled retiree, Shane Anthony Mele, dumped what their owner said was at least $33,000 worth of collectible coins down a Coin Star machine at a Florida supermarket and collected their face value, receiving about $30 – enough for a couple of 12 packs.”"

I hope he at least got 30 dollars worth of Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes
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Bcash boys dumps are getting smaller and smaller. Soon we smash through 4k.

Its a Bull Market ya know Cheesy
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Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
Twitter—>copy—-> paste Roll Eyes 

The members of the mcpeep team should form a union, and attempt to negotiate for better working conditions.   

Hardly are some of the members going to get much sympathy, when such team efforts involve El Nido travels.

On the other hand, there could be moar resentment and friction among team members who didn't get to join the El Nido, etc, trip?  Perhaps?
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March 09, 2019, 02:48:54 AM

This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.

I am in "capitulation" mode, remember. I am prepared for the worst... for the best I don't need to.

I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

Joking apart, I don't know what to think myself. I also am inclined to think some real despair is needed before the strong hands can move on.

As time passes, however, I see trend lines reversing and don't know what to make of it. What I've seen, a few times already, is that when she moves, she moves suddenly and unexpectedly. So we may be in for a rough ride indeed.

There are a couple of critical moments when the likeliness of traumatic plunges will be higher. Someone here mentioned the first half of May, and I thought it was a smart point. Can't remember what it was, though. Besides, I'm sure other keen participants would be able to provide hypotheses that are just as smart, while predicting the opposite.

So what do we know? Hodl.

Agreed. HODL.
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March 09, 2019, 02:51:48 AM

I might be alone with this but this modern day political correctness shit is annoying. I’m not interested in International Women’s Day.

Sounds like a load of bull shit to me.


It is. You are not alone. But those are the times. Adapt.
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March 09, 2019, 03:06:03 AM
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Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
Twitter—>copy—-> paste Roll Eyes 

The members of the mcpeep team should form a union, and attempt to negotiate for better working conditions.   

Hardly are some of the members going to get much sympathy, when such team efforts involve El Nido travels.

On the other hand, there could be moar resentment and friction among team members who didn't get to join the El Nido, etc, trip?  Perhaps?

El Nido lays in the past almost @ bantayan island..... for team building.....

You should do Some travelling as well, give those writing fingers a break, Will do you good  Tongue

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I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

1.  I don't expect to break up.
2.  Everyone is still looking for the final volume spike to flag the bottom, which is a good reason why it may never happen.  Instead everyone is already accumulating.
3.  If you believe in Wall Street's preferred measure (CME Bitcoin Futures), we have already had the volume spike to seal the bottom.

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