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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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March 09, 2019, 02:05:02 AM

This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.

I am in "capitulation" mode, remember. I am prepared for the worst... for the best I don't need to.

I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

Joking apart, I don't know what to think myself. I also am inclined to think some real despair is needed before the strong hands can move on.

As time passes, however, I see trend lines reversing and don't know what to make of it. What I've seen, a few times already, is that when she moves, she moves suddenly and unexpectedly. So we may be in for a rough ride indeed.

There are a couple of critical moments when the likeliness of traumatic plunges will be higher. Someone here mentioned the first half of May, and I thought it was a smart point. Can't remember what it was, though. Besides, I'm sure other keen participants would be able to provide hypotheses that are just as smart, while predicting the opposite.

So what do we know? Hodl.
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March 09, 2019, 02:28:18 AM

I might be alone with this but this modern day political correctness shit is annoying. I’m not interested in International Women’s Day.

Sounds like a load of bull shit to me.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-08/fake-moneys-face-value-deceit

"So it was, with dishonest intentions, that he burgled a rare coin collection with no clue what it was that he’d taken.  To his soft and greedy mind all he saw was a hoard of coins with a face value of One Dollar.  Thus, he redeemed them for cash.  Zero Hedge offers the details:

“After stealing a rare coin collection from an elderly and disabled retiree, Shane Anthony Mele, dumped what their owner said was at least $33,000 worth of collectible coins down a Coin Star machine at a Florida supermarket and collected their face value, receiving about $30 – enough for a couple of 12 packs.”"

I hope he at least got 30 dollars worth of Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes
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Bcash boys dumps are getting smaller and smaller. Soon we smash through 4k.

Its a Bull Market ya know Cheesy
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March 09, 2019, 02:48:45 AM

Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
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The members of the mcpeep team should form a union, and attempt to negotiate for better working conditions.   

Hardly are some of the members going to get much sympathy, when such team efforts involve El Nido travels.

On the other hand, there could be moar resentment and friction among team members who didn't get to join the El Nido, etc, trip?  Perhaps?
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March 09, 2019, 02:48:54 AM

This really is a fractal



So much that it is scary. I mean, if at any time it breaks the pattern......
Scary? Imagine if she keeps it, or breaks up.

I am in "capitulation" mode, remember. I am prepared for the worst... for the best I don't need to.

I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

Joking apart, I don't know what to think myself. I also am inclined to think some real despair is needed before the strong hands can move on.

As time passes, however, I see trend lines reversing and don't know what to make of it. What I've seen, a few times already, is that when she moves, she moves suddenly and unexpectedly. So we may be in for a rough ride indeed.

There are a couple of critical moments when the likeliness of traumatic plunges will be higher. Someone here mentioned the first half of May, and I thought it was a smart point. Can't remember what it was, though. Besides, I'm sure other keen participants would be able to provide hypotheses that are just as smart, while predicting the opposite.

So what do we know? Hodl.

Agreed. HODL.
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March 09, 2019, 02:51:48 AM

I might be alone with this but this modern day political correctness shit is annoying. I’m not interested in International Women’s Day.

Sounds like a load of bull shit to me.


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March 09, 2019, 03:06:03 AM
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Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
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The members of the mcpeep team should form a union, and attempt to negotiate for better working conditions.   

Hardly are some of the members going to get much sympathy, when such team efforts involve El Nido travels.

On the other hand, there could be moar resentment and friction among team members who didn't get to join the El Nido, etc, trip?  Perhaps?

El Nido lays in the past almost @ bantayan island..... for team building.....

You should do Some travelling as well, give those writing fingers a break, Will do you good  Tongue

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I don't like everyone is expecting to keep the pattern or even breaking up from it. We need more blood, depression and despair before a solid ath-worthy bull run.

1.  I don't expect to break up.
2.  Everyone is still looking for the final volume spike to flag the bottom, which is a good reason why it may never happen.  Instead everyone is already accumulating.
3.  If you believe in Wall Street's preferred measure (CME Bitcoin Futures), we have already had the volume spike to seal the bottom.

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I missed the name calling on both sides. Glad we agree on the boilerplate part. As far as labeling our probabilities of future outcomes as guesses, I stand by that.

Maybe now, we are meandering into the extent to which guesses are involved in this whole matter, or how to categorize what is a guess?

In the past few hours, I have been attempting to reflect a bit on what point you have been attempting to make with your seeming ongoing desire and persistence to label what is going on as a "bull market" or a "baby bull market," and your earlier "baby bull market" kind of gives away what you are attempting to achieve.

Largely you are trying to argue that you are pretty convinced that for whatever reason you believe that the bottom is in, and this price downtrend is reversed.  You are trying to emphasize your point by labelling the matter as a baby bull market.  Some of the rest of the matters that you are throwing in are not as central to those kinds of main points that you are trying to make with your labelling our current status as a "bull market" or "baby bull market."  And, you are largely both attempting to be predictive with your implication that the "bottom is in", and you may end up being right, but you also seem to be attempting to provide a kind of spin doctor reality to the matter by suggesting that if we all begin to believe that the bottom is in then we will act in such a way that causes the description to fulfill the prescription.

I have called you a troll, and other similar names a few times, because I had been kind of questioning some of your exaggeration intentions; however, I may be developing a little more sympathy for your whole framing of the matter if I am correct about your intention to merely cause more bullish thinking that might assist to make what you want to be reality come true.

I don't have any problem with having bullish intentions, because as you likely pointed out several times, I am a bitcoin bull myself, and my investment practices and behaviors in bitcoin attempt to reflect my bitcoin bullish sentiments and beliefs.  Nonetheless, I question how much utility comes from what seems to me to be exaggerations that are likely NOT going to change the market anyhow, and could actually result in a lot of blowback when your seeming exaggerations end up NOT even coming close to coming true.

So, for me, it may be more of a personal tone matter in which I believe in having low expectations in order that it is way more likely that my expectations are going to be reached and exceeded - because I have found that if I create or follow higher expectations or exaggeration, then there is a real high likelihood that its going to end in a lot of disappointment when those exaggerations and high expectations are not reached.  

The scientific method is based on hypotheses which are educated guesses based on prior knowledge and observation.

You are getting into a different field here, and I doubt that we need to go down the "scientific method" road in order to understand what people do.  We are not scientists, but we still are easily capable of assigning various probabilities to future events and outcomes.  Some events and outcomes are highly probable and some are not, and each person is going to assign varying probabilities to various outcomes and the compounding of calculations which might involve pure guessing in some cases is likely going cause a whole hell of a lot of different views about the future, even if there is agreement on some aspects.  For example, both of us might assign a real high probability that the sun is going to come up tomorrow even if we have differing views about the dynamics that cause that.  Predicting human behavior and markets (that involve a lot of human behavior) are way more complicated, and we do not necessarily need scientific methods to attempt to employ various kinds of probability theory, even though sometimes people with scientific minds and thinking are going to have more specialized approaches, but there are a whole hell of a lot of really smart people and scientists who don't know what they fuck they are talking about in regards to bitcoin matters (even if they might have opinions about it).. hahahahahaha

Im not implying your guesses are random dart throws,

hahahahaha  good.... however, just the fact that you bring that up seems to show that you are assigning way more randomness to opinions than they likely deserve, including the opinions of yours truly.   Tongue Tongue

but the implication is we make our best guesses, based on prior knowledge and observation.

Fair enough about this point.

If you arent guessing, then you would be 100 percent certain.

There is no need to lump all aspects of knowledge into one category.  Like I attempted to describe above, there are certain categories of information that are more certain than others and even more undisputed.  Like we are going to agree about what is going to happen, so for example, if we talk about bitcoin's halvening, we can agree to a lot of aspects about it, and if we talk about how many BTCs are produced per 10 minutes and about how miners might increase or decrease their hashing power based on BTC price.  However, the more factors that we attempt to account, the harder it comes to both assign probabilities to the behavior or what kind of an impact those factors are going to have on the BTC price and even the extent to which one factor or another matters or how other people might view the event, including how much weight to give to BTC price momentum versus news versus fundamentals versus public perceptions or regulations.  

What I am trying to say is that we are going to weigh various factors differently, and even come to differing weighing of their impact on bitcoin and there will also be some guessing involved too.  Some people have access to more information, and do not have to guess as much as others about certain aspects, but still it is quite likely that no one really knows while at the same time no one is completely guessing about everything either.  By the way, some people seem to make some of their guesses/predictions based on a combination of numerology and conspiracy theories about bitcoin manipulation, and sometimes they might end up being correct, too.

Basically you might not prefer my word choice(no worries), but it is accurate based on widely accepted definitions.

There are word choices and there can also be questions about what factors are being considered and how much weight is given to factors and how much pure guessing might be going on.


As for answering your last questions. These are good questions and while I do enjoy sharing my hypothesis that the bottom is in and the bull market is upon us, I at this time am not willing to share all of the inner workings and procedures that led to this decision, so I will have to respectfully decline those questions.

That above is a real bullshit and seemingly disingenuous troll answer.  I had made questions that are so easy peasy that almost any genuine poster should have been able to at least make some kind of stab at disclosing which BTC price points or what factors caused them to arrive at their conclusion about when the bull market or "baby bull market" in this case and your terms was triggered and/or entered into.  

The fact that you don't even make any kind of reasonable attempt shows that you are either acting disingenuously (as a kind of troll), that you are a dumbass (I don't think that is the case, by the way) or that you are purely making shit up (guessing) just for the mere sake of it.

In other words, based on your already demonstration of writing and analyzing abilities (including your demonstration of your detailed trolling efforts aimed largely at roach and gembitz), it should be quite easy for you to write out something like this:

>>>>>>>>Between December 7 and December 15, I saw that the bears had put in a lot of effort to attempt to bring the BTC price down, and the best that they got on December 15 was $3,122.  Subsequently, by December 21 and December 25, the BTC price rebounded to $4,100 and $4,200 respectively.  At no later point have the bears been able to bring the BTC price down below $3,300.....blah blah blah<<<<<<

You should have easily been able to come up with some kind of plausible and seemingly genuine bullshit ideas to show that you are at least attempting to make an effort in the right direction, but instead you play the "trade secrets" phoney baloney card... Your handler told you to say something like that?  hahahahahaha


Some of my knowledge and procedures I consider to be "proprietary" for lack of a better word. Im not selling anything to anyone, but it is the fruit of my labor from 16 years of investing and trading so I will keep the sauce recipe to myself.

Oh my!!!!! I have heard this kind of nonsense before when I troll attempts to avoid answering by playing both the expertise card and the trade secrets card.  

Not believe-able.  You gotta try harder.. or actually try less hard.  Being genuine does not take a lot of effort, but when you are not genuine, your bullshit will tend to seep through, which likely shows that my time is being wasted attempting to explain some of these basic concepts to a disingenuous poster..

I will be serving that sauce though on Bear Meat to anyone who would like a sample Grin

Not convincing... after reading your previous few sentences.
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March 09, 2019, 04:19:58 AM

racist shit

I agree, these Japanese are out of control depicting Italians as dago plumbers for the last three decades.
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Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
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The members of the mcpeep team should form a union, and attempt to negotiate for better working conditions.  

Hardly are some of the members going to get much sympathy, when such team efforts involve El Nido travels.

On the other hand, there could be moar resentment and friction among team members who didn't get to join the El Nido, etc, trip?  Perhaps?

El Nido lays in the past almost @ bantayan island..... for team building.....

You should do Some travelling as well, give those writing fingers a break, Will do you good
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There are some people in this world who are not able to travel for a variety of reasons, so it is NOT necessarily a matter of want.  You should feel privileged that you are able to travel, presuming that you really are traveling.

On a quasi-personal note, I have tentative plans to travel starting mid-to-late this year, and such travel regularity may become nearly a full-time activity for me.  But, for now, I am continuing to wrap up some details on the geographically tied down end of things that sometimes develop the longer you live the more geographically tied down things seem to happen, and hoping that nothing really falls through this time.  

In my abilities to really geographically free myself, there continue to be a few possible sticking points that I am hoping will work out in my favor.
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Spending all your time chasing women is a wasted life.  It's even worse after you catch them, then they never want to leave.
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precious independent woman

Spending all your time chasing women is a wasted life.  It's even worse after you catch them, then they never want to leave.

Good, i don’t want her to leave Wink
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March 09, 2019, 05:06:16 AM

An article about Tim Draper and Bitcoin :

Starbucks Will Laugh if You Still Use Cash in 3 Years: Bitcoin Bull Draper


Great, just what I need, more condescension from the local hipster barista...



Heres one who has no more fucks to give. https://www.facebook.com/ItsGoneViralOfficial/videos/551056805386522/
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Buy Bitcoin if you don’t trust your financial system.

Buy Bitcoin if you believe in freedom.

Bitcoin is a vote for you.

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Dammit i become one of those copy/paste robot drones Roll Eyes
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The members of the mcpeep team should form a union, and attempt to negotiate for better working conditions.  

Hardly are some of the members going to get much sympathy, when such team efforts involve El Nido travels.

On the other hand, there could be moar resentment and friction among team members who didn't get to join the El Nido, etc, trip?  Perhaps?

El Nido lays in the past almost @ bantayan island..... for team building.....

You should do Some travelling as well, give those writing fingers a break, Will do you good
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One thing at a time, micpeople, and don't be trying to impose your purported values on others by judging what is good or not good for alleged keyboard warriors.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There are some people in this world who are not able to travel for a variety of reasons, so it is NOT necessarily a matter of want.  You should feel privileged that you are able to travel, presuming that you really are traveling.

On a quasi-personal note, I have tentative plans to travel starting mid-to-late this year, and such travel regularity may become nearly a full-time activity for me.  But, for now, I am continuing to wrap up some details on the geographically tied down end of things that sometimes develop the longer you live the more geographically tied down things seem to happen, and hoping that nothing really falls through this time.  

In my abilities to really geographically free myself, there continue to be a few possible sticking points that I am hoping will work out in my favor.

Good you go on a holiday..... you may be a keyboard warrior, but i sense holiday Will be needed as probably a NEW keyboard Roll Eyes
And it true, if one can travell he must feel very priveleged cause its one of the most beautyfull and pleasant things to do
So i feel very lucky every time when i travell (on behalve of pleasure) Smiley
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84 days into the new Baby Bull Market and all is well.  Cheesy Each day he gets a little stronger.

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Buy Bitcoin if you don’t trust your financial system.

Buy Bitcoin if you believe in freedom.

Bitcoin is a vote for you.

https://twitter.com/danheld/status/1104031575644258305?s=21

Got it sir!

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Buy Bitcoin if you are dissatisfied with your current government.

Buy Bitcoin if you don’t trust your financial system.

Buy Bitcoin if you believe in freedom.

Bitcoin is a vote for you.

https://twitter.com/danheld/status/1104031575644258305?s=21

Got it sir!



Good Then start buying ASAP  Tongue  (btw i did found Some nemo’s last days in the water Roll Eyes )
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