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March 15, 2019, 03:50:08 AM

If I offered you $1,000,000,000 would you:

- Permanently destroy your mental health?
- Give up one of your senses?
- Agree to never see your loved ones again?
- Give up laughter?
- Give up your memories?

Money is important but know its place,

You're already worth billions.

https://twitter.com/koroushak/status/1105982376847568898?s=21
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March 15, 2019, 03:53:08 AM

So that fat fuck is free (?) to roam around spying on people with Roger Ver for the USG hangout London Trust Media, owners of Private Internet Media and Freenode. https://www.cnet.com/news/mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange-former-ceo-karpeles-lands-new-job/
Crime pays...

First thing, he's not fat any more.  The fish and rice diet in jail has served him well.

I'm actually glad he's out.  I have been very critical of Mark in the past, had a couple pretty hostile interactions with him on here back in the day, but I now believe that he was not malicious but simply in over his head.  I may be naive in that respect but it is my current belief.  

I also appreciate that he let the little fish swim out after the writing was on the wall.

Yeah, maybe you are being naive here.

Anyway.... What I want is *my* money back. I am way more pragmatic than I used to be in the past...

You ain't gettin into that Karpeles, hardened Gentoo install, son.
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March 15, 2019, 03:56:48 AM

I would also ask that some of the bystanders to casual racism here take a stand against it.

I agree with HairyMaclairy.  Since Talmudic Judaism is objectively 100% identical to Nazism, arguably far worse, the only logical thing to do is expel the evil cult of Judaism from every nation on the planet.  You know, the same reason this evil cult has been expelled from nations over 300 times in the past already.
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March 15, 2019, 03:58:41 AM

If I offered you $1,000,000,000 would you:

- Permanently destroy your mental health?
- Give up one of your senses?
- Agree to never see your loved ones again?
- Give up laughter?
- Give up your memories?

Money is important but know its place,

You're already worth billions.

https://twitter.com/koroushak/status/1105982376847568898?s=21

I think I could live without smell or maybe even taste. Would need to deeply think about it... but since the offer isn't real I won't.

P.S.: Spoiler -> Roger Ver chose 1. Now we know.
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March 15, 2019, 04:06:18 AM

I would also ask that some of the bystanders to casual racism here take a stand against it.

I agree with HairyMaclairy.  Since Talmudic Judaism is objectively 100% identical to Nazism, arguably far worse, the only logical thing to do is expel the evil cult of Judaism from every nation on the planet.  You know, the same reason this evil cult has been expelled from nations over 300 times in the past already.

I'm glad to see you two are getting along now.

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March 15, 2019, 04:11:14 AM

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So far from home

I have no power over my POLL-snip gif

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March 15, 2019, 04:14:36 AM

Yeah, maybe you are being naive here.

I don't discount the possibility that the fact that this particular fish got away losing only a couple of fins might influence my feelings on the matter.

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Anyway.... What I want is *my* money back. I am way more pragmatic than I used to be in the past...

Yeah, sadly we are going to get, what?, 7% of losses or something like that?

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P.S.: What does being malicious mean? Intent? Do you think the scumbags that crashed the planes into the twin towers were malicious? They probably were convinced that they were fighting the "devil" and going to paradise for their "great" action.

Extreme comparison, I know...

Without getting off into the weeds about the goatfuckers, whoever ended up with the heavy bags of our BTC had malice, yes, intent.  We find those fuckers I'm all for torture.
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March 15, 2019, 04:17:16 AM

Without getting off into the weeds about the goatfuckers, whoever ended up with the heavy bags of our BTC had malice, yes, intent.  We find those fuckers I'm all for torture.

Karpeles is a Jew and it's anti-semitic to not allow Jews to steal from you.
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March 15, 2019, 04:41:46 AM

My crack about Calvin Ayre being CEO of BSV was a crack at Ricky Falconwings calling himself CEO of Bcash.  

Inability to detect sarcasm -- even when in clear use of driving home a point -- duly noted.

Certainly BSV is sinking faster than a 737 Max.

*sigh* 'tis true. only up four bucks 'merkin since the start of February.

Wait... what!?
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March 15, 2019, 04:44:59 AM

Yeah, maybe you are being naive here.

I don't discount the possibility that the fact that this particular fish got away losing only a couple of fins might influence my feelings on the matter.

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Anyway.... What I want is *my* money back. I am way more pragmatic than I used to be in the past...

Yeah, sadly we are going to get, what?, 7% of losses or something like that?

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P.S.: What does being malicious mean? Intent? Do you think the scumbags that crashed the planes into the twin towers were malicious? They probably were convinced that they were fighting the "devil" and going to paradise for their "great" action.

Extreme comparison, I know...

Without getting off into the weeds about the goatfuckers, whoever ended up with the heavy bags of our BTC had malice, yes, intent.  We find those fuckers I'm all for torture.

He’s not really having a nice time

https://news.bitcoin.com/btc-e-operator-alexander-vinnik-terminates-his-hunger-strike/
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March 15, 2019, 05:09:56 AM

Relevance to my observation that dishonest and dishonorable opponents are once again using falsehoods to try to taint a coin by association? None.

Your relentless defensiveness and apologism for creepy people and aspects of things you have no influence over is really bleedin' weird.

It is not a defense of people. It is in defense of my preferred blockchain. Are you so dull as to not see that? (I rather doubt it). Are you going to tell me that the intent of the post to which I replied was not to besmirch SV? Ayre is not SV, and SV is not Ayre. Ayre is neither the CEO of BSV. Such is a lie. Why do you defend a lie? Defense of lies is reprehensible. Defense of the truth is not. Casting aspersions upon those defending the truth is 'creepy'. Not to mention reprehensible.

Unintentionally appear to have hit a sore spot

Whether we are referring to the Calvin Ayer picture, or just suggesting that Ayer is attempting to proclaim to be the CEO of BSV, jbreher is frequently on a tear and more than willing to run to the defense and support almost any and all of the behaviors of any scammer that supports BIGBLOCKER ideations. 

WTF are you on about? The claim that Ayre is the CEO of BSV is an out-and-out lie. Once again, I try to inject some actual truth into the discussion, and once again, you call me out as if adhering to the truth is somehow shameful. Go fuck yourself.
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March 15, 2019, 05:10:05 AM

Okay, let's do a preliminary analysis of the probable federal agent 'shooter' manifesto for the random braindead, goyim cattle in the thread like Micgoossens:

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It’s the birthrates.
 
It’s the birthrates.
 
It’s the birthrates.

If there is one thing I want you to remember from these writings, its that the birthrates must change. Even if we were to deport all Non-Europeans from our lands tomorrow, the European people would still be spiraling into decay and eventual death. Every day we become fewer in number, we grow older,we grow weaker. In the end we must return to replacement fertility levels, or it will kill us.   To maintain a population the people must achieve a birthrate that reaches replacement fertility levels. In the Western world this is roughly 2.06  births per woman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies _by_total_fertility_rate

There is not a single Western country, not a single white nation, that reaches these levels.  Not in Europe, not in the Americas, not in Australia or New Zealand. White people are failing to reproduce, failing to create families, failing to have children. But despite this sub-replacement fertility rate, the population in the West is increasing, and rapidly. How is this possible?

Regardless if the shooter is a false flag fed or not, the above quote is relevant.  Once they lack both space and resources, K-selection species (whites and north east Asians) are NOT going to reproduce.  They will naturally correct their numbers first.  The semi-related German term for his phenomenon is "lebensraum".  Only R-selection evolutionary dead end groups will keep reproducing out of control without proper space or resources (blacks, mexicans, various middle eastern people, etc).

This shows how stupid the Jewish Kalergi plan of attempting to flood every white nation with infinite brown zombies to try and destroy them is.  Jews want to practice white genocide.  Whites are already regulating their own numbers downwards because they subconsciously know the carrying capacity of their environment can't sustain them.  The Jewish Kalergi plan is counter-intuitive to any form of natural order.  White population goes down regardless of what the Jews do, so the only thing the Talmudic Jew's actions do is create a blight on the planet from having enormous mobs of brown zombies that otherwise wouldn't exist.
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March 15, 2019, 05:13:15 AM

Another bitcoin bull market is coming in 2019, says Fundstrat's Tom Lee

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/14/another-bitcoin-bull-market-is-coming-in-2019-fundstrats-tom-lee.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/david-stockman-rally-is-just-day-traders-chart-monkeys-crash-coming.html

Stock market capital flight into Bitcoin might get another shot soon.
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March 15, 2019, 05:15:59 AM

Chickens 'gang up' to kill intruder fox on French farm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4oufdIOMc
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March 15, 2019, 05:19:12 AM

Relevance to my observation that dishonest and dishonorable opponents are once again using falsehoods to try to taint a coin by association? None.

Your relentless defensiveness and apologism for creepy people and aspects of things you have no influence over is really bleedin' weird.

It is not a defense of people. It is in defense of my preferred blockchain. Are you so dull as to not see that? (I rather doubt it). Are you going to tell me that the intent of the post to which I replied was not to besmirch SV? Ayre is not SV, and SV is not Ayre. Ayre is neither the CEO of BSV. Such is a lie. Why do you defend a lie? Defense of lies is reprehensible. Defense of the truth is not. Casting aspersions upon those defending the truth is 'creepy'. Not to mention reprehensible.

Unintentionally appear to have hit a sore spot

Whether we are referring to the Calvin Ayer picture, or just suggesting that Ayer is attempting to proclaim to be the CEO of BSV, jbreher is frequently on a tear and more than willing to run to the defense and support almost any and all of the behaviors of any scammer that supports BIGBLOCKER ideations.  

WTF are you on about? The claim that Ayre is the CEO of BSV is an out-and-out lie. Once again, I try to inject some actual truth into the discussion, and once again, you call me out as if adhering to the truth is somehow shameful. Go fuck yourself.

Yes we need to stop this nonsense immediately.  Calvin is the major proponent and funder of BSV but in no way shape or form is he the CEO of the project decentralized around him and such scurrilous rumours must be laid to rest.  

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He requested the creation and funds the Bitcoin SV project. The development, testing, mining operations, everything. If successful, the project will increase his net worth by billions, at the same time giving him power over the network.
 Does that sound like CEO behavior to you? Of course not !

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/9y4wdd/let_us_talk_about_calvin_ayre_the_man_behind/


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The Bitcoin SV project was created at the request of and sponsored by Antiguan-based CoinGeek Mining, with development work initiated by nChain.

Bitcoin SV is intended to provide a clear BCH implementation choice for miners.
From BSV.io

Now Cavin Ayre founded Coingeek but that is totally a coincidence.  He is NOT THE CEO OF BSV
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March 15, 2019, 05:27:36 AM

Stock market capital flight into Bitcoin might get another shot soon.

How does that train of thought work?  "Oh god, my speculative assets are crashing.  Time to exit them to go into an even riskier, speculative asset?".  That's not how this game works.  If capital flight occurs away from risk assets it goes to the base of Exter's Pyramid, which is physical metals, not imaginary shitcoins that don't even have the traits to qualify as money in the first place.  Bitcoin is a currency, not money, and a flight away from risk assets is also a flight away from all valueless currencies whether they're paper, digital, or whatever form of scam they take shape.

Another reason digital shitcoins are pure garbage is that they do not qualify as collateral for anything.  For something to qualify as collateral, it has to actually exist in the physical world, otherwise it's just a toxic asset like mortgage backed securities.  If you want to take out a loan, co-sign for some type of liability, or whatever else, you will always be able to put up your house, car, physical metals, or whatever as collateral.  These are all real commodities. Bitcoin is a fake commodity.  You cannot use an imaginary, valueless digital token as collateral for anything.  It's technically even worse than an MBS.

If the price of digital shitcoins went upwards in the event of some type of economic implosion, it would be entirely from the govt themselves rigging them upwards because the invisible hand of the market would NEVER allow it.  In a real flight to safety, real physical commodity money (metals) would annihilate paper and digital currency scams.

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March 15, 2019, 05:29:17 AM

Of course Ayre isn't "CEO of BSV".

However, he is a massive pile of shit, and it would not be unjustified to think the same of people who defend him.
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March 15, 2019, 05:32:35 AM

Probably never, as I at least feel like I'm doubting many aspects of my reasoning every day. This has been a habit since my early childhood, since it appears glaringly obvious that there are no simple answers. If you see certainty in my posts there's a chance that I either am certain with good reason or that you're interpreting too much.

Either way, in the post you've quoted the intended implication was that jojo is highly predictable, like an NPC. He did exactly what I hoped he would.


Now to oppose the common narrative in this thread.

HM stated earlier that nothing would convince him of the objective fact that "2+2 = 4". I posted evidence for the contrary, which he ignored.

If he was willing to self-doubt and open-minded he would've been interested in learning more about this without any goal of letting himself be convinced of anything, but unless he has been looking into it on his own off-thread it would imply a lack of self-doubt and open-mindedness on his side.

Similar behaviour can be observed in the climate discussions. If you can point out where people who repeatedly attack me provide evidence or establish points to look out for, as opposed to claiming facts they've read sometime somewhere, and where I fail to respond to that in an open-minded manner I'll be happy to elaborate on my reasoning or otherwise concede.

No hard feelings by the way (@HM, as you've clearly stopped getting personal lately), just trying to bring a point across. I'm not here to fight. But I'll play along if I'm being attacked for no rational reason and state the obvious for as long as nobody with reason can negate my stance (which I would actually welcome).



Also, just curious. But since when do you attack people with most likely more experience instead of trying to understand where they're coming from? Would you consider yourself superior to an athlete? No? Then why would you assume that someone who spent a life-time learning how to think objectively (Mathematics/Science/Philosophy) would be incapable of self-doubt? Or does ego get in the way when it comes to "thinking"? The ability to think is just like every other ability, it takes time to develop and nurture. And that can not be achieved with personal attacks and complete lack of willingness to engage in conversation.
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Here comes the CNBC Indicator. Short now?  Grin Grin

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