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[Ibian]

I wonder if authoritarian vs libertarian is on a pendulum as well. Smarter people with smarter choices leading to more libertarians. And then things swinging back because people somehow return to creating too many problems and thus forcing a necessity for authority. Then authority overreaching, people slowly learning, and rinse repeat. Hopefully we're smart enough as a species not to go there again.

Do you have a moment to talk about our good lord and saviour the horseshoe theory?

Near as I can tell both the extreme left (Stalin) and the extreme right (Sparta, no modern analogues exist) are authoritarian. Personal liberty can only exist between those extremes, in times of peace.

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[realr0ach]

^I edited my post to add more information.  "Anarchists" were clearly used as useful idiots in Russia in order to destabilize the existing order and bring in Jewish communism.  Libertardians will serve the exact same role as they did anywhere you go.  You do not seem to comprehend the human organizational structure is:

Individual > family > tribe > village > city state based on the same ethnicity

The 'nation' is an entirely ethnic construct.  Without a homogeneous population or ethnocentric majority, a nation does NOT exist.

I agree with your hierarchy here.

But I don't see why the issues you mention are relevant on an individual basis. Individuals come first, and the environment is too hostile they can find ways to have their way within it or move to a new environment that allows them to live their life and pursue their goals freely. With an authoritarian government one has to worry about government overreach. With Soros one can just play their life out as it were. There will always be people with different objectives obstructing their path, but Soros is a much lesser evil than any authoritarian government could potentially be. At least on an individual basis.

George Soros IS an authoritarian government.  It's called international Talmudic Jewry.  Do you actually believe he sets up fake NGOs in nations all across the globe in order to try and destabilize them by importing infinite 3rd world Nigerians by himself??  Italy, Russia, UK, etc; you really believe he single handedly navigates around Italian and Russian mafias circumventing all their power structures as a single outsider?  The routes are media, banks, UN, IMF, World Bank, CFR, etc.  Just because they don't wave an easily identifiable flag around when they destroy your nation doesn't mean they don't exist.  

The worst is the complete idiots like Beto O'Rourke and Justin Trudeau who pretend they're on some type of 'exclusive', 'elite' team when they're just being played as useful idiot, empty suit frontmen to destroy their own countries.

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[Ibian]

^I edited my post to add more information.  "Anarchists" were clearly used as useful idiots in Russia in order to destabilize the existing order and bring in Jewish communism.  Libertardians will serve the exact same role as they did anywhere you go.  You do not seem to comprehend the human organizational structure is:

Individual > family > tribe > village > city state based on the same ethnicity

The 'nation' is an entirely ethnic construct.  Without a homogeneous population or ethnocentric majority, a nation does NOT exist.  All nations without them collapse, which is the only reason places like China and Japan still exist after hundreds, thousands of years.

Worth noting that china consists of many different ethnicities, and that what we today call japanese are immigrants from other asian countries that supplanted the original japanese population.

But as a general rule, yes. Ethnicity matters.

[Last of the V8s]

thought we'd done the https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
it's not perfect, but quite thought-provoking
i always come out more wishy-washy than i'd like to imagine myself (The Khan was a pussy blahblah)
will do it later and might publish here
off to a coffee-morning for the homeless smh

No surprises here

Surprise for me. I'd have imagined I'd be more "libertarian", as I lean heavily into laissez faire, including the bad consequences of poor choices.

Useless quiz is far too statist to get proper picture

[fillippone]

thought we'd done the https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
it's not perfect, but quite thought-provoking
i always come out more wishy-washy than i'd like to imagine myself (The Khan was a pussy blahblah)
will do it later and might publish here
off to a coffee-morning for the homeless smh

No surprises here

Surprise for me. I'd have imagined I'd be more "libertarian", as I lean heavily into laissez faire, including the bad consequences of poor choices.

Useless quiz is far too statist to get proper picture

Since I'm here...

Economic Left/Right: 5.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.26




Close enough to Friedrich von Hayek. I'm satisfied.

[mindrust]

thought we'd done the https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
it's not perfect, but quite thought-provoking
i always come out more wishy-washy than i'd like to imagine myself (The Khan was a pussy blahblah)
will do it later and might publish here
off to a coffee-morning for the homeless smh

Wow. I am Nelson Mandela reincarnated.

[realr0ach]

^I edited my post to add more information.  "Anarchists" were clearly used as useful idiots in Russia in order to destabilize the existing order and bring in Jewish communism.  Libertardians will serve the exact same role as they did anywhere you go.  You do not seem to comprehend the human organizational structure is:

Individual > family > tribe > village > city state based on the same ethnicity

The 'nation' is an entirely ethnic construct.  Without a homogeneous population or ethnocentric majority, a nation does NOT exist.  All nations without them collapse, which is the only reason places like China and Japan still exist after hundreds, thousands of years.

Worth noting that china consists of many different ethnicities, and that what we today call japanese are immigrants from other asian countries that supplanted the original japanese population.

But as a general rule, yes. Ethnicity matters.

This is why the Marxists refer to you as r0ach-lite.  Ever notice there can't be too many black people in Africa or too many 'Han Chinese' in China?  There can only be too many white people somewhere and this is a major problem that needs to be 'fixed' with more diversity?  Everytime kike shill HairyMaclairy brings up his stupid shit about "diversity", you can tell his ass to fuck off straight to Africa where he can lecture them there's far too many noggers there.

[El duderino_]

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[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

thought we'd done the https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
it's not perfect, but quite thought-provoking
i always come out more wishy-washy than i'd like to imagine myself (The Khan was a pussy blahblah)
will do it later and might publish here
off to a coffee-morning for the homeless smh

No surprises here

Surprise for me. I'd have imagined I'd be more "libertarian", as I lean heavily into laissez faire, including the bad consequences of poor choices.

Useless quiz is far too statist to get proper picture

Yeah, the questions also aren't sufficiently well-defined for my taste.

Some years back I went to the doctor to get my insomnia checked out. Ended up at some ADHD specialist.

The questionnaire was so ambiguous that I could've crossed anything without distorting the truth depending on how I'd choose to interpret the questions. Needless to say, I could choose the outcome so I went ahead and got a Ritalin prescription just to be sure.

Surprisingly, it knocked me out. First time in my life I went to bed and just fell asleep.

Not taking it anymore because I don't like having to watch my diet to negate the side-effects, and while it makes me more productive and focused it makes me think more linearly and thus tampers with creativity.

Tl;dr questionnaires are shitty ways to collect data. But unfortunately the best we have for now. Probably going to change in a decade or so though.

[realr0ach]

Tl;dr questionnaires are shitty ways to collect data.

The questionnaire seemed to have been valid because if I take a ritalin or adderal as a non-ADHD person it's going to make me wide awake for like 8 hours.  So in order for it to make you fall asleep, you really do have some sort of ADHD.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

^I edited my post to add more information.  "Anarchists" were clearly used as useful idiots in Russia in order to destabilize the existing order and bring in Jewish communism.  Libertardians will serve the exact same role as they did anywhere you go.  You do not seem to comprehend the human organizational structure is:

Individual > family > tribe > village > city state based on the same ethnicity

The 'nation' is an entirely ethnic construct.  Without a homogeneous population or ethnocentric majority, a nation does NOT exist.

I agree with your hierarchy here.

But I don't see why the issues you mention are relevant on an individual basis. Individuals come first, and the environment is too hostile they can find ways to have their way within it or move to a new environment that allows them to live their life and pursue their goals freely. With an authoritarian government one has to worry about government overreach. With Soros one can just play their life out as it were. There will always be people with different objectives obstructing their path, but Soros is a much lesser evil than any authoritarian government could potentially be. At least on an individual basis.

George Soros IS an authoritarian government.  It's called international Talmudic Jewry.  Do you actually believe he sets up fake NGOs in nations all across the globe in order to try and destabilize them by importing infinite 3rd world Nigerians by himself??  Italy, Russia, UK, etc; you really believe he single handedly navigates around Italian and Russian mafias circumventing all their power structures as a single outsider?  The routes are media, banks, UN, IMF, World Bank, CFR, etc.  Just because they don't wave an easily identifiable flag around when they destroy your nation doesn't mean they don't exist.  

The worst is the complete idiots like Beto O'Rourke and Justin Trudeau who pretend they're on some type of 'exclusive', 'elite' team when they're just being played as useful idiot, empty suit frontmen to destroy their own countries.

I don't know enough about the details, but would be surprised if our problems weren't mostly deliberate in ways at least similar to what you describe.

However. George Soros can't show up at my door and tell me what I can and can't do. An authoritarian government on the other hand can dictate most aspects of my life and forbid me from leaving the country.

As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here, where none of the Western problems exist. Sure, they have that whole birth rate and aging population issue. But that's clearly being solved by them (and not anywhere as bad as in South Korea in the first place). They also have work ethics that are unhealthy to say the least. But I'm wealthy enough not to care about that at this point. The biggest problem over there would be the illegality of recreational substance use, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't a safe travel destination in the west to play that game from time to time. Not that it would matter if things got so bad that I'd actually have to move. Some things take priority over exploring the space of human consciousness and experience.

I'm not saying that people like Soros aren't a blight on the world. But I still don't see how they're comparable to obvious authoritarian governments. Unless his end-goal was to destroy all countries. Which he is too old to accomplish anyways.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Tl;dr questionnaires are shitty ways to collect data.

The questionnaire seemed to have been valid because if I take a ritalin or adderal as a non-ADHD person it's going to make me wide awake for like 8 hours.  So in order for it to make you fall asleep, you really do have some sort of ADHD.

That's what I've eventually learned as well. But my point was that I chose the answers required to get the diagnosis and prescription. And I didn't have to technically lie about things, because depending on the interpretation of the questions I could explain either answer with my true beliefs. It just happened to be accurate, which I originally didn't believe.

Edit: If I take stupid amounts of Ritalin I get wired as well though.

[realr0ach]

As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here

Lol.  If you're a random white guy you need to be really naive to think traveling to a highly homogeneous, ethnocentric Asian country is going to somehow be a cure for your problems should the world go south.  In the current day of 2019, you would be far more likely to have both your assets or your life seized as a white guy in China or Japan in a SHTF scenario than an Asian person in America.  You might get by if you speak fluent Japanese and are some type of established community figure, but even then it's a gamble.  

And the Japanese economy might even be far worse in such a scenario because they seem to have less natural resources, farmland, space, etc to fall back on.  If/when it happens in the US, the population is going to immediately segregate just like prisons do.  Most blacks will be running around like wild animals in South Africa with machetes murdering each other and everyone they see.  But they aren't going to overrun the whites or anything, so it's not something most people will actually have to deal with.  Places like Singapore might even be more likely to have actual cannibalism since they have no resources at all and seem to import all their food.

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[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here

Lol.  If you're a random white guy you need to be really naive to think traveling to a highly homogeneous, ethnocentric Asian country is going to somehow be a cure for your problems should the world go south.  In the current day of 2019, you would be far more likely to have both your assets or your life seized as a white guy in China or Japan in a SHTF scenario than an Asian person in America.

I lived in Japan for some years already some time ago. Had no issue connecting with younger Japanese people, mostly gamers. Saw some of them pretty much every day at the arcade, had lunch and dinner with them, traveled with them, etc. Perfectly normal relationships I'd have with people here as well, except that they're into alcohol, while I prefer the herb which is a big no-no in Japan.

China is not Japan though. I'd never set foot in there for anything other than travel.

If you have any better options I'd be willing to hear by the way. I'm not sure what the best destination for a doomsday scenario would be, but so far this seems like the most sensible choice given my individual situation.

[realr0ach]

As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here

Lol.  If you're a random white guy you need to be really naive to think traveling to a highly homogeneous, ethnocentric Asian country is going to somehow be a cure for your problems should the world go south.  In the current day of 2019, you would be far more likely to have both your assets or your life seized as a white guy in China or Japan in a SHTF scenario than an Asian person in America.

I lived in Japan for some years already some time ago. Had no issue connecting with younger Japanese people, mostly gamers. Saw some of them pretty much every day at the arcade, had lunch and dinner with them, traveled with them, etc. Perfectly normal relationships I'd have with people here as well, except that they're into alcohol, while I prefer the herb which is a big no-no in Japan.

China is not Japan though. I'd never set foot in there for anything other than travel.

If you have any better options I'd be willing to hear by the way. I'm not sure what the best destination for a doomsday scenario would be, but so far this seems like the most sensible choice given my individual situation.

All you really need to know is that in the old days, civilizations cropped up exclusively by the sea or other major waterways.  A lot of that is because if the land crops fail or somehow become unavailable, civilization can continue without everyone dying.  Ideally you would want to be as far from major cities as possible and near the water, possibly on an island.  

When the Jews pull their 9/11 demolition of this economic system you're not going to be able to travel anywhere, so you better get there before it happens.  All the ATMs and other crap will probably be frozen, you probably won't be able to even buy gas, and bitcoin will be 100% useless.  It will be strictly physical cash, coins, and physical metals (if the paper cash still has any value).  It's not really possible for the value of many of the coins like nickels and pennies to decrease, though.  It costs like 8 cents to create a nickel and 1.8 cents to create a penny, I think, so all that stuff will still be around.

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Good riddance!

[realr0ach]

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CBOE has stopped offering futures because of low volume.

Good news.

Good riddance!

Nah, if you refuse to participate in their rigged casino, they will simply do an under the table hostile takeover of places like BitFinex and Binance to control the price there.  Hell, they might already be running BitFinex.  We already know the price is controlled by a single entity there.  It's either the Bitfinex owners themselves, Bitmain, or one of the too big to jail banks/ESF.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

As is, I can just fly over to Japan when shit hits the fan here

Lol.  If you're a random white guy you need to be really naive to think traveling to a highly homogeneous, ethnocentric Asian country is going to somehow be a cure for your problems should the world go south.  In the current day of 2019, you would be far more likely to have both your assets or your life seized as a white guy in China or Japan in a SHTF scenario than an Asian person in America.

I lived in Japan for some years already some time ago. Had no issue connecting with younger Japanese people, mostly gamers. Saw some of them pretty much every day at the arcade, had lunch and dinner with them, traveled with them, etc. Perfectly normal relationships I'd have with people here as well, except that they're into alcohol, while I prefer the herb which is a big no-no in Japan.

China is not Japan though. I'd never set foot in there for anything other than travel.

If you have any better options I'd be willing to hear by the way. I'm not sure what the best destination for a doomsday scenario would be, but so far this seems like the most sensible choice given my individual situation.

All you really need to know is that in the old days, civilizations cropped up exclusively by the sea or other major waterways.  A lot of that is because if the land crops fail or somehow become unavailable, civilization can continue without everyone dying.  Ideally you would want to be as far from major cities as possible and near the water, possibly on an island.  

When the Jews pull their 9/11 demolition of this economic system you're not going to be able to travel anywhere, so you better get there before it happens.  All the ATMs and other crap will probably be frozen, you probably won't be able to even buy gas, and bitcoin will be 100% useless.  It will be strictly physical cash, coins, and physical metals (if the paper cash still has any value).  It's not really possible for the value of many of the coins like nickels and pennies to decrease, though.  It costs like 8 cents to create a nickel and 1.8 cents to create a penny, I think, so all that stuff will still be around.

They would have to destroy the Bitcoin satellites to break that means of exchange. Which is much more difficult to do than disabling bank accounts. I also don't think that any human force in the world, which wouldn't outright wipe out humanity, would be capable of disabling all means of travel, trade etc. There is too much to lose on an individual basis to allow any significant global scale catastrophe. As such, I see any doomsday scenarios as heavily localized with individual countries remaining unfazed.

As far as localizing near water, Japan seems pretty much perfect for that. And since they don't allow Muslims, or any foreigners, to mass-immigrate most of the Western problems don't hold there. One could argue that a mass exodus from the West to Asia could become a problem. But unless they start nuking the country those problems can be solved with money. Or with a hermit lifestyle somewhere in the middle of the nowhere of Japan.