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April 06, 2019, 05:38:15 AM
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Ok I have had a bit of a look and I can’t come up with any models which support $12k+ before November 2019 at the very earliest even with front running so I am not going to worry about that as a possibility.

Logically and TA-based, yes, but how about the fuh-damentals?
Was there a model in Jan 2013 indicating that in April 2013 the price would be 1800% higher?
Absolutely not, yet it happened.

Where is your "leap of faith", HM?
Toxic2400 also drew something that might happen, plus or minus.

Personally, I am a bit bored with all models that draw neat bowl like movements projecting into 2023.
Where is the fury of the exponent of the adoption stick?
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Ok I have had a bit of a look and I can’t come up with any models which support $12k+ before November 2019 at the very earliest even with front running so I am not going to worry about that as a possibility.

Logically and TA-based, yes, but how about the fuh-damentals?
Was there a model in Jan 2013 indicating that in April 2013 the price would be 1800% higher?
Absolutely not, yet it happened.

Where is your "leap of faith", HM?
Toxic2400 also drew something that might happen, plus or minus.

Personally, I am a bit bored about all models that draw neat bowl like movements projecting into 2023.
Where is the fury of the exponent of the adoption stick?

Your post is hilarious, and maybe even suggests that some of the current BTC price prediction models do not sufficiently account for the s-curve adoption and the underlying nature of bitcoin as an asset class (a kind of currency/commodity) that has never before been seen, which has decent chances of causing exponential growth cycles that have never been seen... so BTC as a "new" paradigm shifting asset class does not fit existing price prediction models.

I think that we can still be prepared for possible outrageous exponential bitcoin price behavior without exactly putting such situation into a model.... something like that happened in late 2017 when bitcoin outperformed by 3-5x the vast majority of bullish scenarios and nearly 2x of many of the pie in the sky scenarios...

Of course, there were even more fringe and even higher bullish scenarios before the 2017 run, such as the 2015/2016 AdamstgBit repetition BTC price prediction of $32k that did not quite play out in our last UP cycle to $19,666.
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Good morning WO,s

It seems that follows the pattern 2015, until 2019.
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April 06, 2019, 06:38:19 AM

Ok I have had a bit of a look and I can’t come up with any models which support $12k+ before November 2019 at the very earliest even with front running so I am not going to worry about that as a possibility.

I don’t think we’ll see above $10,000 in 2019. The real fireworks will probably start a few months after the halving next year. I’m patient & am in no rush though.

Good morning gentlemen by the way!
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April 06, 2019, 06:40:49 AM

Can I say Come Onnnnn!!!!!!!! LFC 1-2 @the moment

pity that I couldn't see it live Roll Eyes

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Why is the green dude wearing a shoe on his hand?

Even if he would.... Then it still would make more sense than owning Bcash (and surely with continiously repeating that Bcash is the real Bitcoin) Roll Eyes
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April 06, 2019, 06:42:18 AM

Ok I have had a bit of a look and I can’t come up with any models which support $12k+ before November 2019 at the very earliest even with front running so I am not going to worry about that as a possibility.

I don’t think we’ll see above $10,000 in 2019. The real fireworks will probably start a few months after the halving next year. I’m patient & am in no rush though.

Good morning gentlemen by the way!

Its an early morning for me, but indeed good morning WO’s...
Also never underestimate BTC Smiley
Its all possible, its no must BUT I think its very possible.
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Good morning WO,s

It seems that follows the pattern 2015, until 2019.

I learn something new or something interesting almost every time I read a post of yours. I didn't know what puell multiple is till I see your post.

Keep doing this you'll end up on the list of most merited guys in a few months.

Great stuff.
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April 06, 2019, 07:01:31 AM
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Can I say Come Onnnnn!!!!!!!! LFC 1-2 @the moment

pity that I couldn't see it live Roll Eyes

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Why is the green dude wearing a shoe on his hand?

Even if he would.... Then it still would make more sense than owning Bcash (and surely with continiously repeating that Bcash is the real Bitcoin) Roll Eyes

Heyyy-O! Mic with the lacerating bcash burn!!



Besides, its not a shoe. They're insulated mittens because its cold out.
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April 06, 2019, 07:05:22 AM

I think he’s very likely to be a paid shill.

You can consider it likely if you want. But I am not paid for my advocacy of Bitcoins in any flavor, be it SV, BCH, or BTC. Meantime, half of y'all are whoring out your reputations to shill some crap product in y'all's sigs. Imagine the irony.
I would never expect you to be a shill, I think they have you and most of the BCH community wrong. I just think you are all very ideological and wanting Bitcoin to be a digital cash and see no use of anything not directly on the blockchain. No second layer no whatnot,

I don't have any issue with second layer innovation, per se. What galls me is that Blockstream and the rest of Core deliberately crippled Layer 1 in order to accomplish their layer 2 'innovation'. Which, for all intents and purposes, still sucks two years down the line.



This is said again and again, and still I do not see how bitcoin is crippled.

Sorry guys down tools. Its all over here.

Off we all go to BSV

Someone get the light
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April 06, 2019, 07:27:31 AM

I learn something new or something interesting almost every time I read a post of yours. I didn't know what puell multiple is till I see your post.

Keep doing this you'll end up on the list of most merited guys in a few months.

Great stuff.

It is reciprocal, I also learn a lot from all of you.

Thanks.

(I am trying to improve my English, I would like to discuss some of the publications that I read or publish, but this will have to wait.)
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April 06, 2019, 08:45:54 AM

Late, long thoughts - on the 'are we going faster?' subject:
 
Here is late late 2014 to Jan 2015 chart:


Note the MAs 'death cross' and the immediate freefall to the absolute low.  About 9 of the 3day candles after the cross.

Then here is the same period now:



VERY NICE POST .... but here is what I saw



it was all Globb0's foul  Roll Eyes

CROSS of Globb0, thats how its noted in my books !
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April 06, 2019, 08:59:23 AM

Sorry  Smiley

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@infofront

I have included WO in the thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126554.msg50395431#msg50395431
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April 06, 2019, 09:26:41 AM

Wall Street trades a significant portion of the market’s bitcoin futures

Data shows that the Chicago Mercantile Exchange’s (CME) Bitcoin futures traded $563 million in volume on Apr. 4th while the top 10 crypto exchanges traded $685 million, suggesting Wall Street is now trading a significant portion of the BTC futures market.

CME Sees Massive Increase in Bitcoin Futures Trading Volume

Following the Chicago Board Options Exchange’s (CBOE) decision to delist Bitcoin futures the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME) stepped in and seized much of the market.

Any major stock exchange’s involvement in the digital asset-derivatives market will benefit the crypto industry, both in terms of liquidity and in and legitimizing the sphere.

Recent data from Messari Crypto, a cryptocurrency research company, shows that CME has meaningful amounts of volume. According to CME, its BTC futures traded about $563 million on Apr. 4th alone.

While the exact amount wasn’t confirmed by CME, the company lists the number of contracts traded as well as the amount of Bitcoin in every contract. With 5 BTC per contract and yesterday’s $5,000 Bitcoin price, the 22,542 contracts traded over $500 million.



https://cryptoslate.com/wall-street-trades-a-significant-portion-of-the-markets-bitcoin-futures/
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April 06, 2019, 09:29:00 AM

BTCBTC trting now stable amd others all altcoin market token and coin now recovery slowly i thing maximum recovery next some day bearish market is end soon.
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April 06, 2019, 09:47:52 AM

Ok I have had a bit of a look and I can’t come up with any models which support $12k+ before November 2019 at the very earliest even with front running so I am not going to worry about that as a possibility.

Logically and TA-based, yes, but how about the fuh-damentals?
Was there a model in Jan 2013 indicating that in April 2013 the price would be 1800% higher?
Absolutely not, yet it happened.

Where is your "leap of faith", HM?
Toxic2400 also drew something that might happen, plus or minus.

Personally, I am a bit bored about all models that draw neat bowl like movements projecting into 2023.
Where is the fury of the exponent of the adoption stick?

In 2013 there was very little historic precedent to draw on. The market was naive and raw. Adoption and interest has increased exponentially since then, and the market has become much more deep and liquid. The intense volatility seen in the infancy of the market will slowly smooth out. That is another reason for the wave cycles ( bear/bull markets) getting longer.

Behaviour now conforms more closely to TA standards. In fact, I would argue that crypto is now entering a stage of early maturity which can be compared to stock markets in the early 20th century, before the modern era of  manipulation/overly complex reflexivity.  Therefore TA would be expected to work best in the crypto era we are entering.
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When BSV advocates examine BTC's value proposition

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