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[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Satoshi clearly knew and understood that because Bitcoin is open source and anyone can clone or fork Bitcoin, and anyone can create unlimited number of new coins at will, then the dominance of one form of digital open source money/Gold 2.0 would be decided in the court of public opinion. Not through censorship of Bitcoin's competitors.

So it all comes down to belief/popularity contest of what form of open source digital money should be dominant, with participants basing reason to purchase and use based on sum total of philosophy/moral/ethical/guiding principles, intent of dev team, attributes (security, decentralization, etc., etc.), and growth through usage (via popularity with exchanges, brokers, users, merchants, investors, etc).

And yes BSV is a scam and Craig Wright is a fraud. But that is for the public to decide.

I like your reasoned position.  Probably because I agree with it entirely.

Aire and Wright are taking a shot at being the new Rothschilds.  Aire is a gambler and Wright is a pathological liar.  For a while I almost began to wonder if one of them is the Antichrist.  They will not be the last to try.  This is a chance to run the world.  Thing is, the popularity contest, as I see it has an entrant that is not/can not be controlled by anyone and is going to win after it eviscerates everyone like CSW who comes after it.

One dark question I feel we face now is:  How much of a whale are either or both of these guys.  BTC whale that is.  Have they already done as much damage to BTC in their bid to pump BSV or will they do more?  The absolute NIGHTMARE scenario is CSW somehow got control over early keys.  But then... why no real proof?

If Hal was Satoshi and if CSW was sufficiently involved with him early on there could be a chance that the claim about some "trust fund" for the genesis key is true. And in that case CSW could potentially gain access to it. But even if that was the case then either the majority would assume that Hal was Satoshi and CSW somehow got access due to "being there at the right time" or nobody would care.

Even if God himself descended and told me that CSW was Satoshi (and not in some non-duality kind of way) I wouldn't give a shit at this point. I refuse to play with someone like CSW unless it's my last option to function in this world. And I doubt I'm the only one given the stunts he's pulled.

I'm agnostic enough to give Roger a pass if the majority decided to go BABC since he denounced CSW, but CSW is just hard pass. I wouldn't be surprised if he started sending people to the Gulag if he could and I absolutely refuse to contribute even on a Planck scale to the reincarnation of humanity's biggest evils - which with the potential of BTC is a very real possibility.

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[gentlemand]

https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/1117828361269571586

Guess I'd better get my skates on and buy more TVs and stuff.

[jbreher]

I'm just going to leave this here :

Seasteader in legal troubles, platform to be removed......

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1661300/seastead-couple-in-crosshairs

Edit: He's possibly in very big trouble here if they proceed with the charges as mentioned.

Highly unfortunate development. I thought Elwar had tacit approval or acquiescence for the seastead. I wonder where the disconnect is.

i think he was counting on "flying under the radar" on this one.  might be wrong though. definitely sucks but without some sort of formal agreement in place it was bound to happen sooner or later.

easy enough to tow to top unit somewhere else but the spar would be harder. might be easier to just sink it. coral will grow on it (already has some i believe) and its just another part of the seabed ecology at that point, so it not pollution. i believe they would have to notify some authority or other that they sunk it with the details of what it is, where etc.

anyway hes proved the point that can be done. not many can say that abount a whole new tech. pioneers always expect setbacks. im sure elwar will take it in stride and move on.

that penalty. man. doesnt leave much room for negotiation does it. gotta look up that law, im sure its so draconian for a reason, at least back then when it was passed.

stay safe elwar! looking forward to updates.

I don't think they can kill or imprison him without fear of America stepping in. He was wanting to have a peaceful retirement but those corrupt countries wouldn't allow that.

Yeah, I dunno. I could see the state dept sitting this one out on 'challenge to any state authority' grounds. It's not going to be high profile stateside, so they can probably take a flyer without any public notice.

[mdayonliner]

All those days I thought BSV and BCHSV are two separate shitcoins before today I figured out that Kucoin calls it BCHSV. It's confusing.

Anyway, I used to have this shit bought sometimes in the last year January (that time BCH) and sold them all today with over 60% loss I guess.

[mdayonliner]

I bet Craig's having a bit of a panic, I wonder if he's dumping some too.

Let's wait and see where Mr. Craig version's of BitShitcoin stops LOL

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[mdayonliner]

All those days I thought BSV and BCHSV are two separate shitcoins before today I figured out that Kucoin calls it BCHSV. It's confusing.

Anyway, I used to have this shit bought sometimes in the last year January (that time BCH) and sold them all today with over 60% loss I guess.

Official, it was 62.187% loss LOL

[bitcoinPsycho]

All those days I thought BSV and BCHSV are two separate shitcoins before today I figured out that Kucoin calls it BCHSV. It's confusing.

Anyway, I used to have this shit bought sometimes in the last year January (that time BCH) and sold them all today with over 60% loss I guess.

Official, it was 62.187% loss LOL

At least you got away with 37.813%
IT Could have been worse

[VB1001]

CMC

[El duderino_]

CMC

Should be way worse.... this still is a succes for that sh*tcoin

[jojo69]

looks like a lot of the SV selloff is flowing into BCH



 

[jbreher]

What he has been doing has been obvious to me (I think) and this supports it.  He has been trying to make "bitcoin" something that the state and the CBs could embrace.

Question: Would you prefer to prohibit any state actor from participating in Bitcoin?

Followup: If answer to above is 'yes', how do you square this with the mutually-exclusive attribute of 'permissionless'?

[Paashaas]

CMC

Should be way worse.... this still is a succes for that sh*tcoin

https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/1117828361269571586

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

What he has been doing has been obvious to me (I think) and this supports it.  He has been trying to make "bitcoin" something that the state and the CBs could embrace.

Question: Would you prefer to prohibit any state actor from participating in Bitcoin?

Followup: If answer to above is 'yes', how do you square this with the mutually-exclusive attribute of 'permissionless'?

I differentiate between participation and taking over control, which is what was suggested during a Coingeek conference in which the blights of society were supposed to get sufficient tools to keep doing what they have been in a more efficient manner.
This could also be the issue on which CSW and Roger parted and to some extent why I don't have any hard feelings against him. CSW clearly cares about nothing worth caring about, unlike Roger (anti-establishment).

If Roger hadn't teamed up with CSW and Bitmain (phony hash war) I might've very well been persuaded to at least keep sensible portions of both chains in cold storage.

[El duderino_]

looks like a lot of the SV selloff is flowing into BCH



 

Trading one turd for another, gotta love it.

Let them remain in the sjalot part of the pool, that where all the turds float

[El duderino_]

CMC

Should be way worse.... this still is a succes for that sh*tcoin

https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/1117828361269571586

#voted in that 76%

[jojo69]

sjalot

I rather like that

[silverfuture]

Ready Player One, Satoshi edition.  Who wants to win a millio in BTC?

https://satoshistreasure.xyz/1

[bitcoinPsycho]

Ready Player One, Satoshi edition.  Who wants to win a millio in BTC?

https://satoshistreasure.xyz/1

Me

[d_eddie]

Yeah, I dunno. I could see the state dept sitting this one out on 'challenge to any state authority' grounds. It's not going to be high profile stateside, so they can probably take a flyer without any public notice.

If he's blacklisted - as I assume he is - he can't fly from Thailand, but must cross some land border. At least he's a USA citizen, so I don't think the Thai government wants to get into a fight over him. I see a bigger problem for his gf (unfortunately not protected by wife status), who is Thai and could get to be used as an eloquent example.

[silverfuture]

Ready Player One, Satoshi edition.  Who wants to win a millio in BTC?

https://satoshistreasure.xyz/1

Me

Everyone playing is hoping they find the 400th key at the time of the dip!