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[Ibian]

Guys life is so much simpler when you don't give a shit about 99% of what anyone says. Guy defaming you on some forum? Guy pretending to be Satoshi? Guy pretending he will manipulate the market like SO unless you do Y? Fuggit all. Get drunk and hodl.

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[jonoiv]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

I think just below $2500 will be the bottom personally.  and it will happen arround oct / nov 2019

This looks like an elliotwave phase B bear rally, I fully expect people to call me out as usual.  But I will, and have put my money where my mouth is

I really don't care what JJG has to say on the matter or any other person.  im happy to be quoted in November.  

[d_eddie]

What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Intellectual honesty while reading them.

EDIT 2k posts!

[HairyMaclairy]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

Hahahahahaha

[g-uid]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

I think just below $2500 will be the bottom personally.  and it will happen arround oct / nov 2019

This looks like an elliotwave phase B bear rally, I fully expect people to call me out as usual.  But I will, and have put my money where my mouth is

I really don't care what JJG has to say on the matter or any other person.  im happy to be quoted in November.  

100% agree. $2500 feels right, I know there's no place in this space for touchy feely jibber jabber but it has served me pretty well over the last 9 years.

Will add some more fuel into the fire, r0ach is going to love this: I bought gold.

[d_eddie]

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's. 

[FractalUniverse]

Will add some more fuel into the fire, r0ach is going to love this: I bought gold.

yeah, we know. in 2011 or 12, near the top  

[g-uid]

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's. 

I know ;( It's all par for the course though so have it gents!

[jbreher]

Well....

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?
OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

But if he crashes the market, BSV will also go down with it.

I have frequently heard this narrative. I have yet to see any convincing evidence that there is any truth to it. How about you sell me on the idea?

My guess is that he wants people to have some doubt and hedge in BSV just in case he crashes the market. But their fork war with BCH brought every coin down, including BSV.

It did for some time, aye. But has of late been rebounding nicely (which admittedly may be at least in part due to very publicized irrelevancies - I make no claim of proportion here). He may be playing a longer game. Aren't we hodlers supposed to be all about the deferred gratification?

[Ibian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU

Anti-eu six years ago. This is 90% of the reason bitcoin is even known to more than a hundred or so people. Never forget.

[jbreher]

Seems in your hurry to dismiss what I wrote, you forgot to actually read it. Play by play to follow:

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?

You forgot to mention fraud & plagiarism.

My use of the term 'lie' covers that adequately.

Incidentally, I note you have not answered the explicit question.

OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

Advantage my ass, it's just FUD.

"Advantage"? WTF are you typing about?

Incidentally, I note you have not answered the explicit question.

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Fuck his writings, check out his videos & ..... admire the clown.

Fuck Satoshi's writing's? Interesting swerve. "check out his videos & ..... admire the clown"? I was not aware Satoshi ever communicated via videos. That must be what I'm missing. Care to point me to them?

[jonoiv]

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's. 

Im not sure there will be too many... 

And if there are, they propbably won't quote the prediction, because that's the way it works on the WO thread.

[d_eddie]

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's. 

Im not sure there will be too many... 

All it takes is ONE guy 

[El duderino_]

F*** when page parity!.

[jbreher]

I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Intellectual honesty while reading them.

No. You don't get to broadside and run off. I asked for evidence of a particular assertion. One which I do not believe exists within any of Satoshi's collected writings. If you think such evidence exists, either put up, or admit that you are too lazy (or too ... intellectually dishonest) to provide a link to such writings.

Really disappointed to see you -- of all people -- to stoop this low.

Rhetorical scenario for you to ponder while preparing to react to the above: If Core had foisted something like XRP onto BTC, and Satoshi was aligned with a fork similar to BSV, do you think there is evidence in Satoshi's writings that support the notion that he would decidedly refrain from using his war chest to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals?

[Ibian]

We will never know who Satoshi is and his coins will never move. People must be REALLY bored lately.

[cAPSLOCK]

Well....

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?
OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

But if he crashes the market, BSV will also go down with it.

My guess is that he wants people to have some doubt and hedge in BSV just in case he crashes the market. But their fork war with BCH brought every coin down, including BSV.

[Lambie Slayer]

do we have WO residents participating in whalepool telegram chat?

we can make a telegram group too.. you know.. to make the arrangements for the 100k party. My vote goes to make it in Cayman Islands.  

I stand by my vote of Vegas (in summer). The place was basically built from scratch to host the $100K summit/party.

I’m up for that. Been three times a loved it every single time.

Never been but I think I need to start a W/O Twitte, get the BAT acceptance on it, have everyone donate their free BAT from brave convert it to BTC and put it in a publicly known address and use it as a beer/liquor fund for the party or we could divy it out back to the W/O members. (It wouldn't be much though fair warning.)

I think Vegas was the first place ever mentioned when the 100k party was first brought up but that was years ago and I cant be sure. If so then its a no-brainer. If someone can find the first 100k party location reference in a WO post and it mentions Vegas then I think that would be a fair way to settle it.

Vegas to me is the best choice for a lot of reasons. First since English is the chosen language for WO except for tards like Genitalbitz and Virgin Bug boy(tard has its own language) then it makes sense to stick to an English speaking location. That leaves a lot of choices, but no city on Earth imo is more dedicated and caters to partying than Vegas and so why not choose it to have an epic party. They have world class dining, hotels, and arguably the best assortment of nightclubs and resident djs on Earth. For those of us wanting to partake in hookers, blow, strippers, etc it is also the place for that. More escorts than anywhere in the US and some of if not the best (imo) strip clubs in America in Rhino, Sapphire and Treasures. Weed is also legal now for those that like that with lots of shops all over town and recently lounges you can legally smoke in. Traffic in vegas is light, the airports are convenient and the weather is great except maybe a bit too hot in July.

Also the legal brothels are a quick drive out of Clark County which is a plus for those of us into such naughty things.  

note:if we hit 100k this July Vegas may be too hot for some bc the avg temp during the day is really high so perhaps the pampers can avoid that month for the climax.

[jbreher]

Well....

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?
OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

But if he crashes the market, BSV will also go down with it.

My guess is that he wants people to have some doubt and hedge in BSV just in case he crashes the market. But their fork war with BCH brought every coin down, including BSV.

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I'm sensing a pattern here.

You provide to me a challenge.

I respond considerately, and with careful aim to cover each of your inquiries. I provide some follow up inquiries to you, in order to clarify our respective viewpoints.

You ignore my inquiries completely.

Is this how are interactions are to go? Too afraid of engaging in honest debate?

[Cryptotourist]

1. The "explicit" question does not really need an answer.
The real Satoshi did not have to fake anything. He was into coding, not fraud.

2. Advance=advantage. Sorry.

3. Not the real Satoshi's videos. They don't exist. The clown's video's claiming to be of course.

I think we can go like this all day.
Craig is not Satoshi jbreher, so please stop referring to him as if there is the slightest chance that he is.