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Question: Sept. 21 Closing Price:
$0 - 4 (3.7%)
<$8,000 - 5 (4.6%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 1 (0.9%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 2 (1.8%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 5 (4.6%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 7 (6.4%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 25 (22.9%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 20 (18.3%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 19 (17.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 6 (5.5%)
>$12,000 - 8 (7.3%)
>$20,000 - 7 (6.4%)
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June 03, 2019, 02:22:53 PM

I've registered in 02/Dec/2013

If I had put $100 on BTC weekly since that day, I would have had $382,017.68 in my BTC account now. (44btc) Feelssadman.
https://calculator.for-bitcoin.com/?amount=100.00&freq=week&month=December&day=02&year=2013

DCA really works.

Here's a better example.

https://calculator.for-bitcoin.com/?amount=100.00&freq=week&month=December&day=02&year=2017
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On a side note, I think Kenzawak and my path could cross sooner. The only drawback I can think of is I travel as a bag packer, and he's a slightly fancy traveler. Cheesy

I'm not that fancy trust me.
That's my ride :



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June 03, 2019, 02:27:16 PM


You didn't leave me any tip though !!!

Wasn’t the plan of driving there..... still it was a very beautiful place Smiley
Nah, you didn't get my (terrible) joke, I meant I was the waiter in Biarritz.  Tongue
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On a side note, I think Kenzawak and my path could cross sooner. The only drawback I can think of is I travel as a bag packer, and he's a slightly fancy traveler. Cheesy

I'm not that fancy trust me.
That's my ride :




 Lol   ...and your chauffeur is takin the picture?
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June 03, 2019, 02:31:18 PM

@Kenzawak  New money new rule Cheesy
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June 03, 2019, 02:31:49 PM


You didn't leave me any tip though !!!

Wasn’t the plan of driving there..... still it was a very beautiful place Smiley
Nah, you didn't get my (terrible) joke, I meant I was the waiter in Biarritz.  Tongue


Then insert meme “throwing bone to dog, missing the Joke” Roll Eyes

But I Will response, I been to 3 places, left tip at every single one Tongue
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June 03, 2019, 02:34:56 PM

I've registered in 02/Dec/2013

If I had put $100 on BTC weekly since that day, I would have had $382,017.68 in my BTC account now. (44btc) Feelssadman.
https://calculator.for-bitcoin.com/?amount=100.00&freq=week&month=December&day=02&year=2013

DCA really works.

Here's a better example.

https://calculator.for-bitcoin.com/?amount=100.00&freq=week&month=December&day=02&year=2017

Your example is pretty much my reality. (not completely) If it wasn't signature campaigns, airdrops and some altcoin trading, my portfolio would look exactly like that.

We all laugh at these numbers now but making %40 profits in a year and a half is not that bad. How much was yearly bank interest?

Packing my backpack, going to Amsterdam this night, gonna look for a party place for us.  Grin Is Greenhouse or Katsu? Joke I quit it.
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June 03, 2019, 02:39:20 PM


I'm not that fancy trust me.
That's my ride :





Upgrade to a penny farthing and no one will ever steal your front deck!

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June 03, 2019, 02:39:34 PM


 Lol   ...and your chauffeur is takin the picture?

I suspect he's the one who stole the bike's wheel, he got tired of driving my fat ass (is that the right expression here ? Hmmm...)
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June 03, 2019, 02:40:40 PM

Oh, look.
at last Elwar and Nadia hit the mainstream italian press:

https://www.corriere.it/economia/consumi/19_giugno_02/sfida-furbetta-seasteaders-prendere-residenza-mare-non-pagare-tasse-ca8024b4-850c-11e9-a4c5-122bac19b17d.shtml
(think you can google translate it)


Sadly, the ignorant italian journalist ignores herself we had in Italy one of the first Seadsters experiment in the 60's:


^^Rose Island 1968 circa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Rose_Island
https://www.visit-rimini.com/when-italy-went-to-war-with-the-esperanto-micro-nation-insulo-de-la-rozoj/


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Oh, look.
at last Elwar and Nadia hit the mainstream italian press:

https://www.corriere.it/economia/consumi/19_giugno_02/sfida-furbetta-seasteaders-prendere-residenza-mare-non-pagare-tasse-ca8024b4-850c-11e9-a4c5-122bac19b17d.shtml
(think you can google translate it)


Sadly, the ignorant italian journalist ignores herself we had in Italy one of the first Seadsters experiment in the 60's:


^^Rose Island 1968 circa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Rose_Island
https://www.visit-rimini.com/when-italy-went-to-war-with-the-esperanto-micro-nation-insulo-de-la-rozoj/




I googled. Still says the couple is on the run. Are they still on the run? Or have they been arrested yet? Hope they got out of Thailand and all is ok.
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June 03, 2019, 02:56:27 PM


Oh Hey. That's what I was looking to buy for my next major toy. Maybe after we buy a ranch.

Not sure what I think of the Porsche Mission E. I'm torn.

2023 if I play my cards right...

HODL.
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If this little soiree is going to cost 400 fucking grand ...



Each?

A few seem to have settled on 10 grand a piece and 40 people. No idea why and it Weren't me. No, sir.


There was no settling and really the idea of charging a entrance fee is ludicrous. This is just low brow flights of fancy.

I think what we should really do is look into a pay per view type extravaganza with obstacle courses and medical teams on standby. I am sure the whole cost could be defrayed and the rest sent to a good charity.

Or more germane, we'll all talk some about investing in Bitcoin. Which will make the trip tax-deductible.

Lotta savvy biz knowledge to be shared amongst the tycoons of industry known as the WO regulars.

You raise a good point. Presumably, by the time we reach $100K or thereabouts, many more people here will be financially independent. A WO meetup would be a great place to talk with like minded people about potential startups, etc.
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If this little soiree is going to cost 400 fucking grand ...



Each?

A few seem to have settled on 10 grand a piece and 40 people. No idea why and it Weren't me. No, sir.


There was no settling and really the idea of charging a entrance fee is ludicrous. This is just low brow flights of fancy.

I think what we should really do is look into a pay per view type extravaganza with obstacle courses and medical teams on standby. I am sure the whole cost could be defrayed and the rest sent to a good charity.

Or more germane, we'll all talk some about investing in Bitcoin. Which will make the trip tax-deductible.

Lotta savvy biz knowledge to be shared amongst the tycoons of industry known as the WO regulars.

You raise a good point. Presumably, by the time we reach $100K or thereabouts, many more people here will be financially independent. A WO meetup would be a great place to talk with like minded people about potential startups, etc.
Alternatively, shutdowns. Segwit, lightning, and all the politics around it, it's a bad thing. Anything shifts to the left over time, and bitcoin is not going to be the first exception. At some point it will be time to hedge the other way.
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June 03, 2019, 03:05:37 PM

Oh, look.
at last Elwar and Nadia hit the mainstream italian press:

https://www.corriere.it/economia/consumi/19_giugno_02/sfida-furbetta-seasteaders-prendere-residenza-mare-non-pagare-tasse-ca8024b4-850c-11e9-a4c5-122bac19b17d.shtml
(think you can google translate it)


Sadly, the ignorant italian journalist ignores herself we had in Italy one of the first Seadsters experiment in the 60's:


^^Rose Island 1968 circa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Rose_Island
https://www.visit-rimini.com/when-italy-went-to-war-with-the-esperanto-micro-nation-insulo-de-la-rozoj/




I googled. Still says the couple is on the run. Are they still on the run? Or have they been arrested yet? Hope they got out of Thailand and all is ok.

As far as I know they are still on the run.
What pisses me off is instead is the cheap reporting on the story: they focused only on the fact they wanted to avoid taxation, notingh else, no context, no reasoning.
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Last edit: June 03, 2019, 03:26:06 PM by infofront

Afaik transaction malleability breaks LN.  So Segwit is necessary for LN as it fixes transaction malleability.  Also BIP 114 for MAST requires Segwit.

I think that the malleability bug is separate from the segwit. I think segwit required the fix in order to work. So segwit in on itself is not required for LN.
This is an important difference if true. Can anyone confirm/deny?

Segwit was one of multiple potential transaction malleability fixes, but it was often billed as the fix. Take a look at Bcash. They fixed transaction malleability without segwit.

It's basically the same thing with LN. Segwit made bitcoin capable of handling LN, but there were other ways to implement lightning without segwit.


you don't want those coffee purchases clogging up the main chain.
Yes I do. I specifically want coffee purchases clogging up the main chain, in fact. And anything else people care to use it on.

That is the entire point of bitcoin. Anyone can send any amount to anywhere at any time without needing the permission of middlemen such as yourself.

Bitcoin was not meant to be a transactional currency. It was meant to be a store of value. Read: https://twitter.com/danheld/status/1084848063947071488

Any other use case, such as buying coffee, is outside the scope of Bitcoin's core use case. That's basically why we'll need 2nd layer solutions (or altcoins) for buying coffee.
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Afaik transaction malleability breaks LN.  So Segwit is necessary for LN as it fixes transaction malleability.  Also BIP 114 for MAST requires Segwit.
I think that the malleability bug is separate from the segwit. I think segwit required the fix in order to work. So segwit in on itself is not required for LN.
This is an important difference if true. Can anyone confirm/deny?

Segwit is ABSOLUTELY needed for LN to work.

When you are managing your balances over LN, LND is only communicating with other Segregated Witnesses, exclusively, unless you are opening/closing channels, at which point, it needs to checkpoint against L1/BTC Blockchain and incur an on-chain fee.

Unless I dun goofed my understanding of it somewhere along the line.
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June 03, 2019, 03:23:24 PM

You took your sweet time because it took nearly a year to hit 0.066

I was underwater for a bit, 'tis true. Irrelevant. I'm in for the long haul.

Though truth be told, nobody much tried to use the price to hurt my feelings in several weeks. Not like it would accomplish anything anyhow.

Cheers!
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June 03, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
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"If China is telling the truth when it says 'China does not want a trade war, but it is not afraid of one and it will fight one if necessary,' we are in for a long, painful time of uncertainty.

This is incredibly bullish for bitcoin."

https://twitter.com/srussolillo/status/1135527551474884608?s=21

Eh, just till we get the moron out of office. I'm actually quite impressed though: He has not pissed on the Queen's shoes which means the UK trip is exceeding my expectations....
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Edit:  no need to take my word for it.  This is what Andreas says:



You seem to be confusing SegWit with the other cruft bundled into The SegWit Omnibus Changeset.
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