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February 14, 2014, 08:23:45 AM
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Well that's it, I'm all out of fiat now so I hope it's time to break out the CCMF t-shirts  Cheesy

Did any of you actually buy one of those?
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February 14, 2014, 08:27:06 AM
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Wot no $10, what's taking so long?

give it five or six hours  Wink
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February 14, 2014, 08:27:08 AM
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BTC will shoot up when clear signs appear that withdrawals will be enabled again.
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February 14, 2014, 08:31:32 AM
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BTC will shoot up when clear signs appear that withdrawals will be enabled again.

Yes and the cheap coins on Gox will get dumped on stamp!
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February 14, 2014, 08:32:27 AM
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I'm thinking of buying a nice bunch of coins but dont know if I dare to transfer FIAT to Gox? Or should I go with Stamp?

If Gox fixes their BTC withdrawals problem before they fix their fiat withdrawal problems, the price there will go vertical, but I doubt you would be able to get your money there to trade before this happens. Even if it does, your fiat profits would be trapped for however long it takes to get it out, possibly forever.

Try to get your money to whichever exchange will let you buy before this transaction malleability problem gets fixed. I'm guessing you don't have much time.
I would suggest longing gox w/ leverage  Wink
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February 14, 2014, 08:33:09 AM
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BTC will shoot up when clear signs appear that withdrawals will be enabled again.

Yes and the cheap coins on Gox will get dumped on stamp!


I know its a trifle naïve, but some people might actually buy them and hold onto them.
Unreasonable I know, but.........
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February 14, 2014, 08:33:28 AM
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Wot no $10, what's taking so long?

Just out of curiosity is it your intention to post that question every day until it happens?
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February 14, 2014, 08:33:58 AM
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BTC will shoot up when clear signs appear that withdrawals will be enabled again.

Yes and the cheap coins on Gox will get dumped on stamp!

A lot of coins will be moved out for sure, but i don't think they will be dumped instantly.
We will see.  Smiley
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February 14, 2014, 08:34:07 AM
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Markets hate uncertainty. Opportunity is inversely proportional to safety.

Gox's problem got worse and drug the other markets down. If Gox's problems get better, it will likely have the opposite effect. Mark will fix the (BTC) withdrawal problem. He knows he'll get jail time or murdered if he doesn't.
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February 14, 2014, 08:35:52 AM
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Looks like I made a good decision to go to bed full fiat, something I haven't done since I bought BTC first time. Never went to bed without full BTC actually. Bought back in at $549 (btc-e), hoping for a big bounce now.
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February 14, 2014, 08:38:13 AM
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You should get at least some US morning bounce.  Still 3 hours until San Francisco wakes up and starts buying.
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February 14, 2014, 08:39:37 AM
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When the US wakes up, there will be a great amount of panic buying  Cool

This is also around the time GOX announced something last time...

goxBTC to the moon!
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February 14, 2014, 08:40:36 AM
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I'm thinking of buying a nice bunch of coins but dont know if I dare to transfer FIAT to Gox? Or should I go with Stamp?

If Gox fixes their BTC withdrawals problem before they fix their fiat withdrawal problems, the price there will go vertical, but I doubt you would be able to get your money there to trade before this happens. Even if it does, your fiat profits would be trapped for however long it takes to get it out, possibly forever.

Try to get your money to whichever exchange will let you buy before this transaction malleability problem gets fixed. I'm guessing you don't have much time.
I would suggest longing gox w/ leverage  Wink
That's a bad idea. The order books are very thin and one big move by another trader or bot could have you liquidated. Long might be a good idea but not with leverage.
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February 14, 2014, 08:41:42 AM
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I'm thinking of buying a nice bunch of coins but dont know if I dare to transfer FIAT to Gox? Or should I go with Stamp?

If Gox fixes their BTC withdrawals problem before they fix their fiat withdrawal problems, the price there will go vertical, but I doubt you would be able to get your money there to trade before this happens. Even if it does, your fiat profits would be trapped for however long it takes to get it out, possibly forever.

Try to get your money to whichever exchange will let you buy before this transaction malleability problem gets fixed. I'm guessing you don't have much time.
I would suggest longing gox w/ leverage  Wink
That's a bad idea. The order books are very thin and one big move by another trader or bot could have you liquidated. Long might be a good idea but not with leverage.
I know. I did it  Grin
Then someone sold like 200 BTC  Angry
and the price went to 350
but now it is going up

But to be liquidated 5000 BTC would have to be sold  Undecided
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February 14, 2014, 08:43:31 AM
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BTC will shoot up when clear signs appear that withdrawals will be enabled again.

Yes and the cheap coins on Gox will get dumped on stamp!


I know its a trifle naïve, but some people might actually buy them and hold onto them.
Unreasonable I know, but.........

Gox coins will be cheap for about 17 seconds before they get really expensive. The market can handle a few hundred dumped coins. The positive news effect will compensate. In the mean time, put some limit orders in to handle the churn.
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February 14, 2014, 08:57:34 AM
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I've asked for a refund of Neptune last week, and got the money back today. Quick and professional customer service.
My main concern was that according to this calculator http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php, the miner would need to come on line end of March at the latest to break even. I'll be watching KnC's foray into cloudhashing with interest, and maybe buy shares from them if they would appear to be at least a little profitable.

In the meantime, the fiat money that I got refunded got redirected strait back to Bitstamp, and if the price on Monday/Tuesday stays about the same as today, I will have made BTC6 of pure profit. Cheesy

...and pity that I won't have fresh fiat on the exchange for the week-end, as I expect we'll be re-testing the lows.
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February 14, 2014, 08:59:22 AM
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With regard to Gox implementing withdrawals it seems there are developments and counter arguments in progress (if you're too lazy to leave this thread):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464835.0

http://theblogchain.com/2014/02/14/breaking-mark-karpeles-posts-to-say-mtgox-is-implementing-a-solution/

I won't pretend to be a technical genius but the gist I'm getting from this is Gox are implementing a 'fix' which gmaxwell (I imagine speaking for the BTCdev team?) seems to think won't work.

Interesting Mark mentions LTC...perhaps he's hoping for a new revenue stream Cheesy Cheesy
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February 14, 2014, 09:00:45 AM
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With regard to Gox implementing withdrawals it seems there are developments and counter arguments in progress (if you're too lazy to leave this thread):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464835.0

http://theblogchain.com/2014/02/14/breaking-mark-karpeles-posts-to-say-mtgox-is-implementing-a-solution/

I won't pretend to be a technical genius but the gist I'm getting from this is Gox are implementing a 'fix' which gmaxwell (I imagine speaking for the BTCdev team?) seems to think won't work.

Interesting Mark mentions LTC...perhaps he's hoping for a new revenue stream Cheesy Cheesy
Ignore this FUD!
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February 14, 2014, 09:04:57 AM
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I've asked for a refund of Neptune last week, and got the money back today. Quick and professional customer service.
My main concern was that according to this calculator http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php, the miner would need to come on line end of March at the latest to break even. I'll be watching KnC's foray into cloudhashing with interest, and maybe buy shares from them if they would appear to be at least a little profitable.

In the meantime, the fiat money that I got refunded got redirected strait back to Bitstamp, and if the price on Monday/Tuesday stays about the same as today, I will have made BTC6 of pure profit. Cheesy

...and pity that I won't have fresh fiat on the exchange for the week-end, as I expect we'll be re-testing the lows.

I call bullshit. If you really thought that, sell your coins there and buy back in cheaper.  

Here comes the FUD brigade, wanting cheap coins before the Big Fix. Sorry you missed the bottom, Guys, but it's in the rear view mirror.
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February 14, 2014, 09:05:52 AM
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With regard to Gox implementing withdrawals it seems there are developments and counter arguments in progress (if you're too lazy to leave this thread):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464835.0

http://theblogchain.com/2014/02/14/breaking-mark-karpeles-posts-to-say-mtgox-is-implementing-a-solution/

I won't pretend to be a technical genius but the gist I'm getting from this is Gox are implementing a 'fix' which gmaxwell (I imagine speaking for the BTCdev team?) seems to think won't work.

Interesting Mark mentions LTC...perhaps he's hoping for a new revenue stream Cheesy Cheesy

What a scumbag move to suddenly mention ltc.
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