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Question: When will we see a new ATH? (Credit to: Biodom)
2019 - 14 (9.4%)
Early 2020 - 33 (22.1%)
Late 2020 - 44 (29.5%)
Early 2021 - 11 (7.4%)
Late 2021 - 24 (16.1%)
2022 - 4 (2.7%)
2023 - 0 (0%)
2024 - 4 (2.7%)
After 2024 - 3 (2%)
Never - 12 (8.1%)
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June 24, 2019, 12:43:37 PM

Gold and Bitcoin dont especially conflict, they are different asset types.     They both rise inverse to Dollar and possibly could be linked to the Iran situation, I'm not sure on that but they are both alternatives to dollar maybe thats the main selling point.
    It was predictable that if Bitcoin is around five years later it would have grown far more then gold, which is an old market with substantial stock available.   Gold also has the easy advantage that you can be 100% certain it'll be around in ten years and a higher price then now, for some they have no further requirement past that.   The high growth rate for BTC comes from its risk and aversion by the billions previously that it is doubted, so with risk comes a greater reward.   I got zero doubts if BTC is around in ten years it'll have outperformed gold again but I'll still hold some gold as thats your fallback asset against every other risk and its reasonable to have for that reason.   Boring but thats how it works, the two have different objectives imo as one is for transaction and the other for storage of a generational value.

The majority of what Schiff says is not really gold, its about bad fiscal policy and a warning on the failure of dollar value.    Taking that into consideration could include things like future pensions paid in dollar or a debt on a house owed in dollars, a fixed interest on that debt should mean it is below real inflation.     Exclude the gold part and the rest is probably relevant to owning alot of asset types away from expecting political debt to continue to thrive.
    Debt has been a bull market since Reagan beat Carter, thats so long some people think its forever and it'll continue forever when I'm certain it'll experience a vast change from now.   They can fix the prices nominally maybe forever but value will be placed elsewhere as debt fails to perform.    I was wrong not to be more bullish on BTC when I first heard of it as its part of that change but I dont think many see a link directly.    I think a peak debt scenario is certain whichever alternative people prefer.




The BTC price opening on sunday night lets the conventional traders back in is how I see it which can be a tide change.   The only effect here is a brief sell down to the multi month channel trend line.    Its hit that and recovered.
The blue line is a 2 day average, closing below this and the rising trend could sell us down to low 9000's but that has not taken so far
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June 24, 2019, 12:54:01 PM
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Hey guys, just to let you know that krogothmanhattan is giving away AN AMERICAN EAGLE SILVER 1OZ COIN in his raffle today.
100 spots available (well 99 now).
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Hey guys, just to let you know that krogothmanhattan is giving away AN AMERICAN EAGLE SILVER 1OZ COIN in his raffle today.
100 spots available (well 99 now).

Wow, thanks for the heads up. First time I've ever participated in a raffle. He's been in a good mood over 300 times now, probably more than I have in my entire life.
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Hey guys, just to let you know that krogothmanhattan is giving away AN AMERICAN EAGLE SILVER 1OZ COIN in his raffle today.
100 spots available (well 99 now).

Wow, thanks for the heads up. First time I've ever participated in a raffle. He's been in a good mood over 300 times now, probably more than I have in my entire life.

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June 24, 2019, 01:10:40 PM

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Not unless you control the government.

Have you ever heard of In-Q-Tel and its relationship to Fedbook.

How much kompromat do you think Fuckbook (or moreover the Five Eyes) has on every politician?

Connect the dots folks.
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Hey guys, just to let you know that krogothmanhattan is giving away AN AMERICAN EAGLE SILVER 1OZ COIN in his raffle today.
100 spots available (well 99 now).

Wow, thanks for the heads up. First time I've ever participated in a raffle. He's been in a good mood over 300 times now, probably more than I have in my entire life.

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June 24, 2019, 01:19:54 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

The battle for $11k continues... currently $10901USD/$14375CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Last week it was the battle for $9k, the week before that, the battle for $8k. This is proceeding quite nicely.

Go Bitcoin go.

You're our hero, Jimbo!

Hey, watch out. You're gonna make this go to my head.

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Last edit: June 24, 2019, 01:33:03 PM by Last of the V8s

https://twitter.com/TheCryptoBubble/status/1143016997707321344 / https://youtu.be/7wBg1lBKtyg
wheeeeen mooooon
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June 24, 2019, 01:22:33 PM

Don’t ever underestimate the power of greed. Those who bought and are holding at ranges 13-20k had the mindset of selling to recoup or even break even once price reaches those price points again. i have a feeling many of these peoples mindset will revert back to their pre purchase mentality. Hop on board and hodl as the eco system has changed and more belief in btc has come into fruition.

Those who bought in the ranges of 13k and above must have sold their bitcoins in loss. There might be very few people who have such a holding power and a mental strength to hold the coins for over a year and still not panic seeing bitcoin moving down to 3000$.

I have a workmate so stupid he bought at 13k, has been holding all this time and tell everybody he will sell as soon as price is back to what he payed. Everyday he curses me aloud for suggesting him to buy BTC back in 2017, and gets triggered when I ask him why selling for the same price after an year if the odds now are that he can make at least some profit. He became a BTC hater.

I have a pal so stupid I introduced him to Bitcoin. He then went “DYOR” and sold all his Bitcoin for Ripple and blew up.  Now he is scared of crypto.
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June 24, 2019, 01:34:58 PM

Dude it is mindrust,

not MindTrust 

Dude, I've also been reading it wrong this entire time. It just reads as "mindtrust" in my head, up until today. Just wanted to cross post this here instead of cluttering the raffle thread.
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Don’t ever underestimate the power of greed. Those who bought and are holding at ranges 13-20k had the mindset of selling to recoup or even break even once price reaches those price points again. i have a feeling many of these peoples mindset will revert back to their pre purchase mentality. Hop on board and hodl as the eco system has changed and more belief in btc has come into fruition.

Those who bought in the ranges of 13k and above must have sold their bitcoins in loss. There might be very few people who have such a holding power and a mental strength to hold the coins for over a year and still not panic seeing bitcoin moving down to 3000$.

I have a workmate so stupid he bought at 13k, has been holding all this time and tell everybody he will sell as soon as price is back to what he payed. Everyday he curses me aloud for suggesting him to buy BTC back in 2017, and gets triggered when I ask him why selling for the same price after an year if the odds now are that he can make at least some profit. He became a BTC hater.

Another r0ach is born
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June 24, 2019, 01:42:08 PM

Hey guys, just to let you know that krogothmanhattan is giving away AN AMERICAN EAGLE SILVER 1OZ COIN in his raffle today.
100 spots available (well 99 now).
Thanks for the heads up. 1% is pretty good odds for free metal.
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Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...
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Source Twitter : @cryptowelson

Where have I seen that before ?? Oh wait that’s my chart !

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June 24, 2019, 02:25:48 PM
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https://twitter.com/TraceMayer/status/1143059448786636800

Key Bitcoin Price Indicator Suggests $21,000 ‘Fair Value’ By End Of 2019

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The bitcoin (BTC) price is unlikely to break $40,000 in 2019, Bitcoin Knowledge podcast host Trace Mayer declared as part of new analysis on June 24.

Uploading fresh readings from his price forecasting tool, the ‘Mayer Multiple,’ the serial commentator and bitcoin proponent said that current trajectory should favor an end-of-year bitcoin price of $21,000.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/key-bitcoin-price-indicator-suggests-21-000-fair-value-by-end-of-2019
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June 24, 2019, 02:35:47 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

The battle for $11k continues... currently $10901USD/$14375CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Last week it was the battle for $9k, the week before that, the battle for $8k. This is proceeding quite nicely.

Go Bitcoin go.

You're our hero, Jimbo!

Hey, watch out. You're gonna make this go to my head.



Puny assets like WOsMerits probably mean little to a True Legend, but what's due is due.

+1 WOsMerit for being the badassest of the bunch.
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June 24, 2019, 02:45:04 PM

Dude it is mindrust,

not MindTrust 

Dude, I've also been reading it wrong this entire time. It just reads as "mindtrust" in my head, up until today. Just wanted to cross post this here instead of cluttering the raffle thread.

You are not alone.  Grin

Saw many doing the same mistake lately.
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https://twitter.com/TraceMayer/status/1143059448786636800

Key Bitcoin Price Indicator Suggests $21,000 ‘Fair Value’ By End Of 2019

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The bitcoin (BTC) price is unlikely to break $40,000 in 2019, Bitcoin Knowledge podcast host Trace Mayer declared as part of new analysis on June 24.

Uploading fresh readings from his price forecasting tool, the ‘Mayer Multiple,’ the serial commentator and bitcoin proponent said that current trajectory should favor an end-of-year bitcoin price of $21,000.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/key-bitcoin-price-indicator-suggests-21-000-fair-value-by-end-of-2019

it's possible that he sold some calls...I distinctly remember him selling some puts before (not sure if it worked out or not).
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June 24, 2019, 03:05:21 PM

Where have I seen that before ?? Oh wait that’s my chart !

New overlay idea:

2017 vs 2019

starting with $800 and $3200.
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June 24, 2019, 03:09:15 PM

Don’t ever underestimate the power of greed. Those who bought and are holding at ranges 13-20k had the mindset of selling to recoup or even break even once price reaches those price points again. i have a feeling many of these peoples mindset will revert back to their pre purchase mentality. Hop on board and hodl as the eco system has changed and more belief in btc has come into fruition.

Those who bought in the ranges of 13k and above must have sold their bitcoins in loss. There might be very few people who have such a holding power and a mental strength to hold the coins for over a year and still not panic seeing bitcoin moving down to 3000$.

I have a workmate so stupid he bought at 13k, has been holding all this time and tell everybody he will sell as soon as price is back to what he payed. Everyday he curses me aloud for suggesting him to buy BTC back in 2017, and gets triggered when I ask him why selling for the same price after an year if the odds now are that he can make at least some profit. He became a BTC hater.

Hahahaha

sounds like a dipshit to me, and a bit of a unicorn, at least in the sense that: 1) fails/refuses to take responsibility for his own decision and 2) failed to have (or later create) a plan, other than exiting, for anything other than immediate UP.
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