Bitcoin Forum
October 23, 2019, 11:51:54 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.18.1 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Poll
Question: Oct. 31 Closing Price:
$0 - 3 (5%)
<$7,000 - 6 (10%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 2 (3.3%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 6 (10%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 12 (20%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 9 (15%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 5 (8.3%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 4 (6.7%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 4 (6.7%)
>$10,500 - 4 (6.7%)
>$20,000 - 5 (8.3%)
Total Voters: 60

Pages: « 1 ... 24259 24260 24261 24262 24263 24264 24265 24266 24267 24268 24269 24270 24271 24272 24273 24274 24275 24276 24277 24278 24279 24280 24281 24282 24283 24284 24285 24286 24287 24288 24289 24290 24291 24292 24293 24294 24295 24296 24297 24298 24299 24300 24301 24302 24303 24304 24305 24306 24307 24308 [24309] 24310 24311 24312 24313 24314 24315 24316 24317 24318 24319 24320 24321 24322 24323 24324 24325 24326 24327 24328 24329 24330 24331 24332 24333 24334 24335 24336 24337 24338 24339 24340 24341 24342 24343 24344 24345 24346 24347 24348 24349 24350 24351 24352 24353 24354 24355 24356 24357 24358 24359 ... 25283 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 21409273 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (109 posts by 22 users deleted.)
infofront
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1820
Merit: 1850


Shitcoin Minimalist


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 06:32:56 PM
Merited by vapourminer (1), ssmc2 (1)

Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...

The Rogue Wave and coming nosebleed ATH and collapse of Core BitcOn (perhaps to ~$775 at the halving).



So we all need to move our coins to legacy addresses?

The downside to keeping hodl stash/cold storage coins in legacy addresses is that you'll probably have higher transaction fees when you finally move them.
The upside is that you'd avoid any potential segwit based attacks on bitcoin, like if miners decide to take all the segwit coins.

So, I guess you have to balance the estimated future fees for non-segwit transactions with the estimated potential for miner theft.
1571831514
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1571831514

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1571831514
Reply with quote  #2

1571831514
Report to moderator
1571831514
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1571831514

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1571831514
Reply with quote  #2

1571831514
Report to moderator
1571831514
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1571831514

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1571831514
Reply with quote  #2

1571831514
Report to moderator
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1571831514
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1571831514

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1571831514
Reply with quote  #2

1571831514
Report to moderator
1571831514
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1571831514

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1571831514
Reply with quote  #2

1571831514
Report to moderator
rdbase
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1218
Merit: 261


bustadice.com


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 06:38:12 PM

Bitcoin -Gotta Cash 'em All! By Jason Paige-The Original Pokemon Theme Singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br-6BKGEPZE



This outta get the price to pump up past $12,000 in no time! Cheesy
actmyname
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1540
Merit: 1794


Exchange Bitcoin quicky--https://blockchain.com.do


View Profile WWW
June 24, 2019, 06:41:08 PM

The BIG blockers have gotten on this kind of Shelby/annuymint  dumb ass talking point for at least a year and a half now, in some kind of desperate attempt to stifle segwit adoption by propagating baloney pie in the scenarios that are largely just nonsubstantiated FUD spreading campaigns.
I love empty 2 GB blocks. Smiley
JayJuanGee
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2044
Merit: 2070


How much alt coin diversification is needed? 0%?


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 06:43:03 PM

Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...

The Rogue Wave and coming nosebleed ATH and collapse of Core BitcOn (perhaps to ~$775 at the halving).



So we all need to move our coins to legacy addresses?

The downside to keeping hodl stash/cold storage coins in legacy addresses is that you'll probably have higher transaction fees when you finally move them.
The upside is that you'd avoid any potential segwit based attacks on bitcoin, like if miners decide to take all the segwit coins.

So, I guess you have to balance the estimated future fees for non-segwit transactions with the estimated potential for miner theft.

Another set of downsides is that you are not supporting segwit, increasing the likelihood of a segwit attack through your nonsupport and supporting the FUD spreaders predictions by doing what they want you to do..  You can do what you want, but don't you find it a bit problematic to try to get others to do the same, especially when it remains a kind of attack on bitcoin's current direction involving segwit and based on incomplete information of BIGblocker FUD spreaders?
JayJuanGee
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2044
Merit: 2070


How much alt coin diversification is needed? 0%?


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 06:48:07 PM

The BIG blockers have gotten on this kind of Shelby/annuymint  dumb ass talking point for at least a year and a half now, in some kind of desperate attempt to stifle segwit adoption by propagating baloney pie in the scenarios that are largely just nonsubstantiated FUD spreading campaigns.
I love empty 2 GB blocks. Smiley

Maybe I am missing something.

Bitcoin is not empty, right?

In recent times, Bitcoin has been having a lot of on chain transaction, yet fees remain relatively inexpensive with decently quick transaction times.  

Bitcoin is doing pretty good in the whole scheme of things, especially being an open source project that is largely incentives based with increasing and increasing networking effects on a variety of levels - that also includes increasing adoption too... Can't really complain about any of that, right?
infofront
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1820
Merit: 1850


Shitcoin Minimalist


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:07:08 PM
Last edit: June 24, 2019, 09:12:37 PM by infofront
Merited by vapourminer (1)

Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...

The Rogue Wave and coming nosebleed ATH and collapse of Core BitcOn (perhaps to ~$775 at the halving).



So we all need to move our coins to legacy addresses?

The downside to keeping hodl stash/cold storage coins in legacy addresses is that you'll probably have higher transaction fees when you finally move them.
The upside is that you'd avoid any potential segwit based attacks on bitcoin, like if miners decide to take all the segwit coins.

So, I guess you have to balance the estimated future fees for non-segwit transactions with the estimated potential for miner theft.

Another set of downsides is that you are not supporting segwit, increasing the likelihood of a segwit attack through your nonsupport and supporting the FUD spreaders predictions by doing what they want you to do..  You can do what you want, but don't you find it a bit problematic to try to get others to do the same, especially when it remains a kind of attack on bitcoin's current direction involving segwit and based on incomplete information of BIGblocker FUD spreaders?

So, if I keep my cold storage coins in a legacy address, how does the affect anyone but me?

Attacking segwit isn't going to accomplish much at this point anyway. That battle was already fought, and the pro-segwit side achieved a major victory. I agree that any negatives about segwit will remain big blocker talking points, as they try to make BTC look weak. That doesn't mean there aren't still legitimate criticisms of segwit, and lightning, for that matter.
serveria.com
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 602
Merit: 115


Balls of steel


View Profile WWW
June 24, 2019, 07:30:54 PM



Hahahaha this is hilarious!  Grin Grin Grin
Searing
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2240
Merit: 1201


CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:31:44 PM

On August 24, 2018 I called for Bitcoin to drop 50% to $3k before rallying back over $10k.

That call was deadly accurate and allowed Morgan Creek Digital to buy the dip.

Here is my next price target.

offthechain.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-l…

https://twitter.com/apompliano/status/1143131557827211266?s=21

The POMP is one of my favourite crypto peeps on Twitter.
I think $100,000 6 months earlier but we will see -




Damn, I hope you correct. If Bitcoin gets to around say $20k even by the middle of next Summer, I think my head will explode.

Not sure which is worse though, limiting my expectations on price, the price pumps and I am confused. Or thinking the price is gonna pump past the ATH

with the 'heady" adrenaline rush of 'fear' 'panic' and damn...now wtf do I do? Sell/Hodl/Panic?

sh*t at least my life is 'exciting' with crypto in the recesses and windmills of my mind. Smiley  

Stuff to do. Smiley


Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...

The Rogue Wave and coming nosebleed ATH and collapse of Core BitcOn (perhaps to ~$775 at the halving).



So we all need to move our coins to legacy addresses?

The downside to keeping hodl stash/cold storage coins in legacy addresses is that you'll probably have higher transaction fees when you finally move them.
The upside is that you'd avoid any potential segwit based attacks on bitcoin, like if miners decide to take all the segwit coins.

So, I guess you have to balance the estimated future fees for non-segwit transactions with the estimated potential for miner theft.

Another set of downsides is that you are not supporting segwit, increasing the likelihood of a segwit attack through your nonsupport and supporting the FUD spreaders predictions by doing what they want you to do..  You can do what you want, but don't you find it a bit problematic to try to get others to do the same, especially when it remains a kind of attack on bitcoin's current direction involving segwit and based on incomplete information of BIGblocker FUD spreaders?

So, if I keep my cold storage coins in a legacy address, how does the affect anyone but me?

Attacking segwit isn't going to accomplish much at this point anyway. That battle was already fought, and the pro-segwit side achieved a decisive victory. I agree that any negatives about segwit will remain big blocker talking points, as they try to make BTC look weak. That doesn't mean there aren't still legitimate criticisms of segwit, and lightning, for that matter.

Exactly where I'm at with all that.

Also, I've kept the BCH and BSV stuff on my legacy addresses. In the United States, if I don't touch the stuff, no taxes. As soon as I touch this 'moon drop' of many bitcoin forked coins

(BCH/BSV/BTC, etc) Then I pay 'capital gains' on when it hit my bitcoin legacy addresses from the sky. So, not an ideal situation, but why I've held on to BCH and BSV, etc and not

stripped them from my legacy wallet. I dread someday with an audit having to explain Bitcoin/Altcoins/Forked Coins/ICO's etc to an IRS person. A year ago on an unrelated crypto

tax question I called the IRS to ask about something and off hand I asked how many IRS folk were working with the IRS representative answering the phone in that IRS center.

She said 100 plus. I asked her if anyone there could answer any IRS type tax questions on crypto and/or Bitcoin, etc. She was gone for quite a bit, so I think she really worked

the room, but NO ONE knew anything at that IRS call center on how all this crypto/BTC works. Anyway, as an aside.

But back to the point you state, there are more than a few reasons to just keep your stuff in cold storage (safety deposit box in my case) along with the segit info above.

Brad

Toxic2040
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 714
Merit: 1085



View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:37:28 PM
Merited by yefi (1), JayJuanGee (1)


So, if I keep my cold storage coins in a legacy address, how does the affect anyone but me?

Attacking segwit isn't going to accomplish much at this point anyway. That battle was already fought, and the pro-segwit side achieved a decisive victory. I agree that any negatives about segwit will remain big blocker talking points, as they try to make BTC look weak. That doesn't mean there aren't still legitimate criticisms of segwit, and lightning, for that matter.


I agree with this with the caveat that 'legitimate criticisms' are one thing and fud another. Basic game theory indicates a extremely low probability that miners would attack and destroy long term gainz for short term gainz. Because that is what would have to happen for such an attack to be effective. The entire crypto ecosystem would have to collapse permanently...not just bitcoin. Everyone would lose faith in decentralized stores of value.

Now could there be and are there bad actors? Maybe...but imo simple extrapolation indicates a zero sum game for this attack vector.
Last of the V8s
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1260
Merit: 2390


Be a bank.


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:43:22 PM
Merited by vapourminer (1), BinaryReign (1)

I love empty 2 GB blocks. Smiley
What people fail to realize is a paid subscription service that copies data hourly from an existing website (http://OpenWeatherMap.org ) and pastes it into BSV blocks accounts for 98.4% of BSV transactions over the past 30 days
not so much empty as filled with crap. lots of it.
d_eddie
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 840
Merit: 739



View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:43:56 PM

OK, made by own "2017 vs 2019" overlay:



About 80K 2019 local top...I can live with that  Cheesy
... and if the overlay is true to details (which of course it isn't), the lowest retrace would be to ~9.5k.
actmyname
Copper Member
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1540
Merit: 1794


Exchange Bitcoin quicky--https://blockchain.com.do


View Profile WWW
June 24, 2019, 07:45:45 PM

I love empty 2 GB blocks. Smiley
What people fail to realize is a paid subscription service that copies data hourly from an existing website (http://OpenWeatherMap.org ) and pastes it into BSV blocks accounts for 98.4% of BSV transactions over the past 30 days
Beautiful. That's worth the hundreds in disk space that I have to pay for to maintain my blockchain history. I love keeping track of the weather.
BinaryReign
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 142
Merit: 108


BTC HODLer


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:46:06 PM

I love empty 2 GB blocks. Smiley
What people fail to realize is a paid subscription service that copies data hourly from an existing website (http://OpenWeatherMap.org ) and pastes it into BSV blocks accounts for 98.4% of BSV transactions over the past 30 days
not so much empty as filled with crap. lots of it.

Have a merit for beating me to it! I was just trying to decide how to bring attention to that, it’s hilarious  Cheesy

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/06/24/bitcoin-satoshi-vision-bsv-activity-transactions-weather-cryptocurrency-blockchain/
Biodom
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2100
Merit: 1305



View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:49:02 PM
Merited by marcus_of_augustus (10), vapourminer (5)


...a few reasons to just keep your stuff in cold storage (safety deposit box in my case) along with the segit info above.


Safety deposit box in a bank?
A historical reference:

FDR EO 6102
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-6102-requiring-gold-coin-gold-bullion-and-gold-certificates-be-delivered

Last of the V8s
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1260
Merit: 2390


Be a bank.


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 07:59:43 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158045.0
We got a haiku
 maestro over here and it's
   not even Sunday.
JayJuanGee
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2044
Merit: 2070


How much alt coin diversification is needed? 0%?


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 08:03:56 PM

Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...

The Rogue Wave and coming nosebleed ATH and collapse of Core BitcOn (perhaps to ~$775 at the halving).



So we all need to move our coins to legacy addresses?

The downside to keeping hodl stash/cold storage coins in legacy addresses is that you'll probably have higher transaction fees when you finally move them.
The upside is that you'd avoid any potential segwit based attacks on bitcoin, like if miners decide to take all the segwit coins.

So, I guess you have to balance the estimated future fees for non-segwit transactions with the estimated potential for miner theft.

Another set of downsides is that you are not supporting segwit, increasing the likelihood of a segwit attack through your nonsupport and supporting the FUD spreaders predictions by doing what they want you to do..  You can do what you want, but don't you find it a bit problematic to try to get others to do the same, especially when it remains a kind of attack on bitcoin's current direction involving segwit and based on incomplete information of BIGblocker FUD spreaders?

So, if I keep my cold storage coins in a legacy address, how does the affect anyone but me?

Attacking segwit isn't going to accomplish much at this point anyway. That battle was already fought, and the pro-segwit side achieved a decisive victory. I agree that any negatives about segwit will remain big blocker talking points, as they try to make BTC look weak. That doesn't mean there aren't still legitimate criticisms of segwit, and lightning, for that matter.

I said my piece already, so no need to repeat further (at this time) and I will likely engage with anyone spouting out anunymint nonsense talking points.. so let's see where it goes. 

Hopefully, it is largely a dead topic, but I doubt it.. these kinds of nonsense anti-bitcoin talking points do seem to come back to life on a fairly regular basis.. like freddy krugger from nightmare on elmstreet or michael myers or jason in friday the 13th
micgoossens
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 854
Merit: 2747


Taking it back a nodge, VEGETA where art thou !!!!


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 08:05:23 PM

buying the dips is for noobs, short-termers and suckers ...

... round here we accumulate bottoms ...
 
and hats.

Wtf is your HAT I know comrade XhomerX Made you one.... Maybe if you like he can fix a 3D one
micgoossens
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 854
Merit: 2747


Taking it back a nodge, VEGETA where art thou !!!!


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 08:06:42 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158045.0
We got a haiku
 maestro over here and it's
   not even Sunday.

Haha indeed
Searing
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2240
Merit: 1201


CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 08:13:25 PM
Merited by vapourminer (3)


...a few reasons to just keep your stuff in cold storage (safety deposit box in my case) along with the segit info above.


Safety deposit box in a bank?
A historical reference:

FDR EO 6102
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102


https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-6102-requiring-gold-coin-gold-bullion-and-gold-certificates-be-delivered



Well, I figure by the time society/Gov't is after me and it is that far gone, it won't matter. I also figured that IF a meteorite takes out my bank, well the crypto gods hate me!

I 'suppose' I should make a copy to another bank in another state, in case of the 'Zombie Apocalypse'

What you state above, does not really matter in my case, in that when BTC was evil in 2013 my bank manager informed the SEC I was an 'evil crypto trader' in that in 2013

all BTC was for drugs/hookers/etc. Thus at least for 2 weeks going into the bank before the SEC guy phoned and had a meeting about this. I was a 'true' desperado with

all the side looks and side talk when I went to the bank to do my business. I cleared it all up with my mining CPA signed Tax Return of 2014, made the bank manager look

like an Idiot. Thus have been 'legal as hell' from that point on.

So I'm afraid the powers that be already have my number, in that I had to tag my bitcoin addresses etc to my

taxes (at least in my own files). Thus, doomed.

I will, however, let everyone else know when the above as you state happens so others can flee. Alas. My fate is likely sealed.

Brad

infofront
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1820
Merit: 1850


Shitcoin Minimalist


View Profile
June 24, 2019, 08:16:11 PM

Bitfinex to introduce 100x leverage...

The Rogue Wave and coming nosebleed ATH and collapse of Core BitcOn (perhaps to ~$775 at the halving).



So we all need to move our coins to legacy addresses?

The downside to keeping hodl stash/cold storage coins in legacy addresses is that you'll probably have higher transaction fees when you finally move them.
The upside is that you'd avoid any potential segwit based attacks on bitcoin, like if miners decide to take all the segwit coins.

So, I guess you have to balance the estimated future fees for non-segwit transactions with the estimated potential for miner theft.

Another set of downsides is that you are not supporting segwit, increasing the likelihood of a segwit attack through your nonsupport and supporting the FUD spreaders predictions by doing what they want you to do..  You can do what you want, but don't you find it a bit problematic to try to get others to do the same, especially when it remains a kind of attack on bitcoin's current direction involving segwit and based on incomplete information of BIGblocker FUD spreaders?

So, if I keep my cold storage coins in a legacy address, how does the affect anyone but me?

Attacking segwit isn't going to accomplish much at this point anyway. That battle was already fought, and the pro-segwit side achieved a decisive victory. I agree that any negatives about segwit will remain big blocker talking points, as they try to make BTC look weak. That doesn't mean there aren't still legitimate criticisms of segwit, and lightning, for that matter.

I said my piece already, so no need to repeat further (at this time) and I will likely engage with anyone spouting out anunymint nonsense talking points.. so let's see where it goes. 

Hopefully, it is largely a dead topic, but I doubt it.. these kinds of nonsense anti-bitcoin talking points do seem to come back to life on a fairly regular basis.. like freddy krugger from nightmare on elmstreet or michael myers or jason in friday the 13th

I don't feel like debating all that again either TBH.

In other news: it's strangely silent here for a day where we've been poking up above $11K repeatedly.
Pages: « 1 ... 24259 24260 24261 24262 24263 24264 24265 24266 24267 24268 24269 24270 24271 24272 24273 24274 24275 24276 24277 24278 24279 24280 24281 24282 24283 24284 24285 24286 24287 24288 24289 24290 24291 24292 24293 24294 24295 24296 24297 24298 24299 24300 24301 24302 24303 24304 24305 24306 24307 24308 [24309] 24310 24311 24312 24313 24314 24315 24316 24317 24318 24319 24320 24321 24322 24323 24324 24325 24326 24327 24328 24329 24330 24331 24332 24333 24334 24335 24336 24337 24338 24339 24340 24341 24342 24343 24344 24345 24346 24347 24348 24349 24350 24351 24352 24353 24354 24355 24356 24357 24358 24359 ... 25283 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!