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July 17, 2019, 10:14:18 PM
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.

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July 17, 2019, 10:17:30 PM

Who would have ever thunk, just a year ago or less that regular normies are going to start to get some real ideas about how bitcoin is different from the 2,000 plus shit coins and ICO snake oil salesman bullshit, including all shit coins, libra, ether, the bcashes, ripple or whatever other phoney baloneys are out their in btc wannabe status or sometimes like eth saying that they offer something different from btc, which ends up rising to the level of crap at best and scam in a worse case scenario.

I think in retrospect this Libra proposal is going to be looked back on as the thing that pushed Bitcoin over a particular hump. It has forced an awful lot of influential people to pause and consider what crypto actually is when they hadn't bothered before.

Throughout these hearings there's been a definite paucity of disdain for BTC.

Least expected bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf1dym16poc

Very unexpected and great to see. Mr Davidson brings it.
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July 17, 2019, 10:20:39 PM

Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I  think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in congress (and not in a senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.



Bolded and underlined as i 100% agree with you. First we need a killer app, then we conquer.


Maybe Libra will make the dirty job (as in publicity stunts) for us.. In fact, a US president went to talk about BTC, "thanks" to Libra.
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July 17, 2019, 10:46:41 PM

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.

Libra has forced people to seek out and clarify their thinking in a hurry.

Most rational people once past 'drugs and terrorism' start to see some virtues. Almost everyone in these recent hearings who's opined on Bitcoin did not come out with this tired old crap.
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July 17, 2019, 10:56:35 PM

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.

Libra has forced people to seek out and clarify their thinking in a hurry.

Most rational people once past 'drugs and terrorism' start to see some virtues.


Why it started with that, though? Rhetorical question.
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July 17, 2019, 11:07:42 PM

you guys or traders bitcoin is not good work
I find here or on the Internet people who share their lives a lot with this damn thing , This is very dangerous whatever the reasons
everyone should stop hold bitcoin
who have bitcoin became like a bee
Most websites in the Internet are fraudulent...to where??
bitcoin and crypto must crash and libra coin must be prevented
I hope Trump the US President will do thing seriously about this  damn currency of internet bitcoin And effect must appear in prices and Organization.... So the ants are organized only bitcoin
because bitcoin is bad To all family members on this planet Earth only The other planets do not have this dreaded hut bitcoin
sites News about bitcoin  should be closed
bitcoin is No longer Absolutely good and fit
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July 17, 2019, 11:16:09 PM

WTF?  Has there been a full moon for a few days?
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July 17, 2019, 11:16:09 PM

$10k soon™

I'm in for

$100k moon™


$1mil and counting is where i’m looking for

But for now i’m looking for my HODLcrib to engage the HODLsleep

Rest well WO’s



ps: me and the GF enjoyed the Lion King Cheesy
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July 17, 2019, 11:21:55 PM

^ yeah account is already tagged and i agree with you but i felt that i should mention here as well because he hangs out here and his account can use couple of red trust from WO members too along with other community members.

he's in contact with exchange, just talked with him offline and he mentioned that his funds are safe.

Good news, @kenzawak PM me when u have control again.
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July 17, 2019, 11:32:00 PM

WTF?  Has there been a full moon for a few days?

Yes, the Buck Moon.

Obvious, isn't it?
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July 17, 2019, 11:37:02 PM

WTF?  Has there been a full moon for a few days?

Yes, the Buck Moon.

Obvious, isn't it?

 It actually does make sense!  Thanks.
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July 17, 2019, 11:44:48 PM

There's still hope for sim-port-attack victims.
Read the article, most important the last paragraph.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/wave-of-sim-swapping-attacks-hit-us-cryptocurrency-users/



What dumb fuck still uses SMS 2FA?

IDK, but even 3rd party open source authentication software like GA isn't 100% safe.
Recently i reactivated an old coinbase account and switched from SMS2FA to GA2FA, but in the long run, i'll switch to a hardware-key based solution.
Maybe my ledger nano can be of some use there, but i don't like to rely on a single device for all crypto-related key storage.
Google authenticator BLOWS, that thing is a piece of shit and you don't have a recovery seed anymore.

https://winauth.github.io/winauth/download.html
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July 18, 2019, 12:23:27 AM

Cool, but that isn't a second layer of protection thats just essentially a password keeper for windows from what the github reads, that and no website would accept that.

Its an open source password protected authenticator.




nothing !

Bot identified...


hahahahahahaha

Too easy... Cheesy
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July 18, 2019, 12:24:31 AM

you guys or traders bitcoin is not good work
I find here or on the Internet people who share their lives a lot with this damn thing , This is very dangerous whatever the reasons
everyone should stop hold bitcoin
who have bitcoin became like a bee
Most websites in the Internet are fraudulent...to where??
bitcoin and crypto must crash and libra coin must be prevented
I hope Trump the US President will do thing seriously about this  damn currency of internet bitcoin And effect must appear in prices and Organization.... So the ants are organized only bitcoin
because bitcoin is bad To all family members on this planet Earth only The other planets do not have this dreaded hut bitcoin
sites News about bitcoin  should be closed
bitcoin is No longer Absolutely good and fit


This.

Other planets do not have Bitcoin.yet...
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July 18, 2019, 12:35:53 AM

Its an open source password protected authenticator.
oh shit, this works with google based auth codes? That's pretty cool.

Works great if you trust winblows enough to use it. Smiley
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July 18, 2019, 01:13:03 AM

Who would have ever thunk, just a year ago or less that regular normies are going to start to get some real ideas about how bitcoin is different from the 2,000 plus shit coins and ICO snake oil salesman bullshit, including all shit coins, libra, ether, the bcashes, ripple or whatever other phoney baloneys are out their in btc wannabe status or sometimes like eth saying that they offer something different from btc, which ends up rising to the level of crap at best and scam in a worse case scenario.

I think in retrospect this Libra proposal is going to be looked back on as the thing that pushed Bitcoin over a particular hump. It has forced an awful lot of influential people to pause and consider what crypto actually is when they hadn't bothered before.

Throughout these hearings there's been a definite paucity of disdain for BTC.

Least expected bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf1dym16poc

Damn site better than I expected from at this point in the vid.

Its an open source password protected authenticator.
oh shit, this works with google based auth codes? That's pretty cool.

Works great if you trust winblows enough to use it. Smiley
Yeah that's the scary part, if your machine is ever compromised you auth is on it, a bit too scary for me.

Don't forget you can always setup a live cd. Smiley
Welp, gotta run hopefully see 5 digits again when I sign back on. Smiley
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July 18, 2019, 01:36:02 AM

Don’t worry about B1tUnl0ck3r

He had an unfortunate incident with the CIA and a tub of butter.  He hasn’t been the same since.


You will be fine. 

Oh wow, what did he do to get in such a horrible spot? And a tub of butter what horrifying torture that must of been lol...

Thank you Mr. HairyMacliary

Hello..

I have been searching this forum for a while now so how come this is the biggest thread in the whole forum? you are constantly posting speculations on the Bitcoin price?

ignore list ! bcz of what is this attitude !

Oh no, i did not mean any disrespect or whatsoever ! I just had no idea how to join this conversation then i randomly typed something... facepalm x2 & sweating bullets

Ignore the fucking retarded one who goes by the name B1tUnl0ck3r. 

At best, B1tUnl0ck3r is a contra-indicator, but most of the time, especially in recent days, he is rambling garbage and mumbo jumbo that is largely indecipherable. (Edit:  I see HairyMCbairy already mostly said this)

Regarding buying into bitcoin, you are never too late... .including getting started today.  There is an expression in bitcoinlandia that seems to be quite true, which is when is the best time to buy bitcoin, and the answer is that the best time to buy bitcoin is yesterday, but the second best time to buy bitcoin is today.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You should consider your plan and dollar cost averaging is one way to get started into BTC, and attempting to front load is another way to get started. 

Those methods can be combined, but if you merely buy some BTC in order to get a stake in it, and then dollar cost average over 5-10 years, you are likely to be very prosperous by the end of such period... but of course you have to take responsibility for any decision that you make and to make sure that you are comfortable with whatever plan that you develop follow and tweak from time to time to conform with changes in your personal situation including cash flow, other investments, views on bitcoin, risk tolerance, timeline and your skills and talents involving how much time that you have for learning or practicing your skills towards bitcoin.

Just by coming to this thread, you are ahead of the game.  It takes a while to learn by experience, including setting up accounts, figuring out your cash flow issues and just not making mistakes by getting too emotional, getting into shitcoins or getting too impatient with attempts to get rich quick temptations.

Seems to me that the smartest of BTC investors (or maybe the most lucky) over time are ones who first engage in a learning and accumulation phase, and maybe as they learn they might figure out better and better ways to accumulate without taking too many risks and mostly buying and HODLing.

Once you accumulate enough BTC up to a certain level that you are comfortable, then you might engage in some more risky strategies including investigating to shit coins, to the extent that any might still exist by the time you largely have accumulated BTC up to a level that is comfortable for you.

Well i do not think he is retarded, he was right i did came in a bit harsh..

I wish i could buy any Bitcoins but we are really bankrupt.. we can barely buy food with chump change we have left when paying all the bills then the food and water... its harsh to take care of all family members with no salary. Lost my job 1 month ago in auto industry -.-"

But i will hustle to get some Bitcoin i think i can do it.. I would be willing to accept a job here if anyone knows for any !

I think i will be dead in 5-10 years lol not even joking. But i am willing to learn about this new technology and that some ..


Just by coming to this thread, you are ahead of the game.  It takes a while to learn by experience, including setting up accounts, figuring out your cash flow issues and just not making mistakes by getting too emotional, getting into shitcoins or getting too impatient with attempts to get rich quick temptations.

You are making me think that for once in my life i did a good decision xD which i hardly do hahah. Why go into shitcoins if they are called shit lol ?

Damn, i have a lot to learn here in this new space..

Thank you as well for your guidance !

Hello..

I have been searching this forum for a while now so how come this is the biggest thread in the whole forum? you are constantly posting speculations on the Bitcoin price?

ignore list ! bcz of what is this attitude !

Oh no, i did not mean any disrespect or whatsoever ! I just had no idea how to join this conversation then i randomly typed something... facepalm x2 & sweating bullets

for what is it worth i am sorry because i am not my self the past few weeks too many pressure on all ends

Grow some balls and tell B1tUnl0ck3r to go F**k himself  Grin

Your question is valid. After >24500 pages of posts it's good to ask what it is all about. Could have turned out into a strange tentacle stormtrooper Pr0n thread after so many posts...

The answer is "You are in the speculation section... we all have no clue... if we did we would be in the Economics section"


Well i should not be disrespectful to members here as a complete utter noob or idiot xD His hair probably has more braincells than my whole brain xDD

That is why i asked hh it is soo much pages and speculation, whahah a tentacle stormtrooper porn thread xDDD but i guess you have good people around so they delete stuff like this no?

I will take a look at that Economics section more detailed too

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July 18, 2019, 01:52:34 AM

Google authenticator BLOWS, that thing is a piece of shit and you don't have a recovery seed anymore.

Simple solution: Use Authy or something like that. Authy does allow you to back up your seed. Another option is to write down the seed when you sign up with a TOTP credential and stick it in your safe. Then you can re-enter it later if you need to.

SMS MFA is not too good anymore, I'd trust it to 25k or so accounts. 25 to 100k I would use TOTP (Google/MS/Whatever authenticator), above that I would use either Yubikey or a Trezor for auth.

Note: If they hack the core of a site they can get the seeds and get through your TOTP MFA. This is not possible with Yubikey.
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https://twitter.com/TrueCrypto28/status/1151235834106064896
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July 18, 2019, 02:55:13 AM
Last edit: July 18, 2019, 06:34:14 PM by Biodom

One panelist gets it:

https://youtu.be/9-ZTkCNW0w8?t=18948

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