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July 19, 2019, 01:22:08 AM

So this is what I see:

Today:  $10,610
1 October: $13,793 still working
1 November: $20,689.5 working
1 April 2020: $33,103.2 working
1 November 2020: $56,275.4 maybe
1 April 2021: $101,295.7 not working
1 November 2021: $192,462 recovering from a 100K party & traveling

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

see my interpretation ^^^ above in red

Your interpretation(s) has been lacking, recently.

You know that I am supposed to be trolling you for your having had mentioned on a few occasions, in recent times, the "waiting" for sub $9k BTC prices, don't you?

I am "waiting" for a sign from JSRAW regarding when this particular bottom is "in"... Maybe the two of you have been conspiring on the side, recently... hahahahahahaha... to fail/refuse to respond to trolling?  

For now, we are still in the downtrend with lower lows and lower local highs.

Yes, we are in a correction from the $13,880 peak, but I would hardly call that a downtrend. 

Even though there is NO one exact way to call the UPtrend or the DOWNtrend, personally, I would like to attempt to play these defiinitions of trends a whole hell of a lot more broadly, so for example, 2013 was either 1 or two uptrends, depending on how you call it, but 2015 to 2017 was an uptrend with a whole hell of a lot of corrections.  late 2017 to late 2018 was a downtrend with some upwards attempts in the middle.

So, in my thinking, ever since mid December 2018 we have been in an uptrend, but we did not realize that until about May 2019-ish.. and the April 1 break above $4,200 was a kind of confirmation of that, which was solidified after the BTC price continued to go up, and pretty much went up to $13,880.

In other words, you don't get another downtrend, you merely get a correction, that is very uncertainty as to where it stops, yet we still remain in the same uptrend that started, more ore less from a bit after the April 1 breaking above $4,200.

So, yeah, you are attempting to call the degree of a reasonable correction within a downtrend, which seems to be quite a dangerous game.

Good luck with that, and I will probably continue to troll you, unless you turn out to be right, then I will have to stop, at that point and likely assert that you were merely lucky.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The downtrend is intact until we go back over 13.8K.

Sounds like almost a certain way to get Reckt... so hopefully, you are not betting too much on your wait and see status.



Second, the digs don't really work on me because I am already past the accumulation phase, at least according to my current investment plan.

I am glad, because you surely seem like an overall reasonable kind of guy, and if you are only betting a small portion of your stash on such possibilities, then your level of reckt will likely be minimized. 

As you might already realize, I get a bit worked up when relatively strong predictions of BTC's price direction comes up, and I get a bit more worked up when the BTC price prediction  is down rather than UP.

Yes, I can buy here and there, but I would be distributing some btc each year, probably, feeding no-coiners.

I will agree that there is a lot more flexibility in the logic of what you do when you have already largely established the vast majority of your stash, so in that regard, it remains discretionary about how much you might play your cards in each direction.  Surely, if you have accumulated already, then you are largely already prepared for UP, so even if you are anticipating down, you are still prepared for up.

My main criticism of members in this thread tends to come more strongly when they seem to be preparing only for one direction, whether that preparation is psychologically, financially or both.


Of course, if a small shitcoin play would work and some looks like they would (at least temporarily), I would be converting those (in part or wholly) to btc. Bitcoin is the core position, but I do play small games on the periphery as it works better for me in comparison with scalping short term trades.

I cannot really argue with those kinds of discretionary tactics, either - especially if you don't tend to pump them in the thread, so if you are just playing around on the side, then surely those can play either way, even though I personally don't really do that at all, and I am not even really tempted by playing on the side because I consider that my BTC strategy has created enough comprehensiveness for my own comfort level in the quantity of value that it represents and my belief that it is of a sufficient enough size to serve its purpose(s).

By the way, thanks for responding to my stalking of you.   Wink Wink
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https://twitter.com/apompliano/status/1151904025849344000?s=21

this rhetoric is almost a piece of art. contemplate on it. wonderful.

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July 19, 2019, 03:24:40 AM

Recovering from a surgery on my leg yesterday. Bedridden for the next week / using crutches.

Sheeit.

What type of negro can't even run fast?

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July 19, 2019, 04:31:04 AM
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Requesting whales to please buy Smiley



Worked in 2013.

Requesting whales to please buy Smiley

Requesting whales to please buy again. Whale call of 2018.

Obligatory 2019 whale call, the pods are going to be arriving and they will eat the books like krill
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Alrighty guys, tomorrow i will buy my first 50€ worth of Bitcoin. In what do you think should i invest afterwards ? Or should i invest into Altcoin first then when i increase my Portfolio i buy The King BTC?

Right on, welcome to BTC!  I think you should invest time into learning as much about bitcoin as you can handle.  Personally I'd stay away from altcoins.  I think its the general consensus here that most of them are doomed in the long run. The way I see it, buying any of them for any reason is akin to high risk gambling.

Sorry about JJG, he can be a bit much sometimes and we've even picked a day of the week to remind him that his long-winded  replies can often miss the mark completely.

Oh, would you look at that, its Thursday, STFU JJG!!
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July 19, 2019, 04:59:51 AM
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#bitcoin 2012 Stock-to-flow model still works!
S2F model made with 2009-2012 data (only 4 data points, before any halving - green line) correctly predicted 2013-2019 (7 out-of-sample data points + blue line) with 99.5% R2. Current prediction: 2021 $100K, 2025 $1M🚀

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1151854806782361604

Get up and see the graphics of this guy is great. Wink

Apart from the graphic, now we are struggling +/- 10500, but the goal, is 10850 to start climbing again.

Good morning WO,s
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July 19, 2019, 05:08:48 AM
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Hi, bitserve, you only go out when there are green dildos. Wink

Sorta Smiley

To be honest I have also posted a couple times lately when the price dipped considerably, which is also somewhat "fine". Other than that I am lately pretty busy IRL renewing my new property as I am trying to do most of the stuff myself (got not much money to spare unless I used my BTC, which I won't). Of course i still try to read all/most of WO daily though just not much time to really participate.

I planned my activity for a longer "crypto winter" and Bitcoin being so much alive sooner came out somewhat unexpected for me. Fortunately I hodled, as always. Would be great if by the time I finish (still 6-12 months apart) Bitcoin would be over previous ATH so that I can celebrate properly. Time will tell.

In the meantime, enjoy summer time!
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July 19, 2019, 06:55:04 AM

Alrighty guys, tomorrow i will buy my first 50€ worth of Bitcoin. In what do you think should i invest afterwards ? Or should i invest into Altcoin first then when i increase my Portfolio i buy The King BTC?

...  Personally I'd stay away from altcoins.


Indeed, much too early to step into alts. Especially if this is new territory for you. It’s only for crazy gamblers willing to risk a sure loss for a tiny chance on a huge reward.
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July 19, 2019, 07:07:34 AM

So this is what I see:

Today:  $10,610
1 October: $13,793 still working
1 November: $20,689.5 working
1 April 2020: $33,103.2 working
1 November 2020: $56,275.4 maybe
1 April 2021: $101,295.7 not working
1 November 2021: $192,462 recovering from a 100K party & traveling

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

see my interpretation ^^^ above in red

Hell yeah! I mean good morning WOlend 🤪

Observing @ $10,460 and happy AF
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July 19, 2019, 07:22:42 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2019, 09:05:00 AM by wwzsocki

The majority of traders I know use Golden Cross and Death Cross to refer to 50 and 200 SMA crossovers on the daily chart, with confirmation following on the 3 day chart. On the BTC/USD daily we had a Golden Cross back on April 23. On the three day we are close to getting confirmation, not there yet though. You can look at lower time frames sure if you are a day trader but you will be getting a better signal to noise ratio on daily and 3 day charts. We briefly dipped below the 50 SMA on the daily but are now back above.

You are right but not fully. I try always to inform exactly about which time intervals on the chart, I am talking about.



https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deathcross.asp

As you see, there are some variations in opinions as to precisely what constitutes this moving averages crossover.
Depends on the individual trader, how he will interpret them. Of course on a weekly, 3 days or even daily, Death Cross signal is stronger as on 4 hours or hourly chart.
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We will all meet up at the Dunkin Donuts across the street and coordinate our entry. If we naruto run, we can move faster than their bullets. Lets see them internal audits.

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July 19, 2019, 07:50:35 AM

So this is what I see:

Today:  $10,610
1 October: $13,793 still working
1 November: $20,689.5 working
1 April 2020: $33,103.2 working
1 November 2020: $56,275.4 maybe
1 April 2021: $101,295.7 not working
1 November 2021: $192,462 recovering from a 100K party & traveling

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

see my interpretation ^^^ above in red

Your interpretation(s) has been lacking, recently.

You know that I am supposed to be trolling you for your having had mentioned on a few occasions, in recent times, the "waiting" for sub $9k BTC prices, don't you?

I am "waiting" for a sign from JSRAW regarding when this particular bottom is "in"... Maybe the two of you have been conspiring on the side, recently... hahahahahahaha... to fail/refuse to respond to trolling?  

Different time zone bro Cheesy and I took your advice on health seriously, reschedule my conjugal visit little early so sorry for the late reply  Tongue
On a side note in a perfect world, no one should be allowed to make fun of my low IQ mind  Cry

@LFC : I am feeling like smarty pants not cashing out my salary  Grin
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July 19, 2019, 08:10:15 AM

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Hi, bitserve, you only go out when there are green dildos. Wink

Sorta Smiley

To be honest I have also posted a couple times lately when the price dipped considerably, which is also somewhat "fine". Other than that I am lately pretty busy IRL renewing my new property as I am trying to do most of the stuff myself (got not much money to spare unless I used my BTC, which I won't). Of course i still try to read all/most of WO daily though just not much time to really participate.

I planned my activity for a longer "crypto winter" and Bitcoin being so much alive sooner came out somewhat unexpected for me. Fortunately I hodled, as always. Would be great if by the time I finish (still 6-12 months apart) Bitcoin would be over previous ATH so that I can celebrate properly. Time will tell.

In the meantime, enjoy summer time!

HODL a bit longer and enjoy summer 365 days a year!  Grin
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Ouch:
*U.S. REGULATOR PROBING CRYPTO EXCHANGE BITMEX ON CLIENT TRADES

Just rewind a few days ago:
 WAS BITMEX ‘AGAIN’ BEHIND THE LATEST BITCOIN FLASH CRASH?

And yesterday opposite move, a huge jump in minutes.

 Exchanges under fire after suspicious ETH crash and today’s BTC spike

Apparently nobody cares about market manipulation, as Bitcoin isn't even a financial instrument. The point is KYC/AML.
https://twitter.com/HASHCIB/status/1152137255936503808?s=20
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2/“The months-long #CFTC probe is focused on whether BitMEX broke rules by allowing Americans to trade on the platform, which isn’t registered with the agency, said one of the people who asked not to be named discussing the investigation, which hasn’t been made public.”

Back to memes and usual posts, then. Boring news.


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Ouch:
*U.S. REGULATOR PROBING CRYPTO EXCHANGE BITMEX ON CLIENT TRADES

Just rewind a few days ago:
 WAS BITMEX ‘AGAIN’ BEHIND THE LATEST BITCOIN FLASH CRASH?

And yesterday opposite move, a huge jump in minutes.


 Exchanges under fire after suspicious ETH crash and today’s BTC spike


Closing this fraud exchange will be quite bullish for Bitcoin. We might have been at 100K already if Bitmex didn't exist.
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@LFC : I am feeling like smarty pants not cashing out my salary  Grin
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#bitcoin 2012 Stock-to-flow model still works!

From what I see this graph shows only 8000$ at the end of 2017 when there was already a 20000$ price. Today if I can see correctly this should be already around 25 - 30K USD for single BTC.

Still, it could be a good prediction in a very long term, which is a million $$$ for single BTC in the 2025 year and if one doesn't look too much into details.
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#bitcoin 2012 Stock-to-flow model still works!

From what I see this graph shows only 8000$ at the end of 2017 when there was already a 20000$ price. Today if I can see correctly this should be already around 25 - 30K USD for single BTC.

Still, it could be a good prediction in a very long term, which is a million $$$ for single BTC in the 2025 year and if one doesn't look too much into details.

This is a model based on the SF/price BEFORE the first halving.
It's a loose indication, with market price being driven by more "short term" forces.
Nice thing is that historically model undervalued the price by 300% (market price was triple the model value) but never overestimated market price by 100% (market price was never below 50% of model value).

So, basically, model value is sort of, conservative estimate of market price.

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