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[Cryptotourist]

^. So is r0achie, but never mind that.

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[realr0ach]

^See you at da $0k party, Richter.

[degxtra1]

scrOachie gets hyperactive - green dildo coming 

[hv_]

CSW rekt:

https://twitter.com/wizsecurity/status/1161338703710568448

Hobby prove done by some raspi judges?

Lol

[JayJuanGee]

  I mean to change to tradingview as Bitcoinwisdom fell over and didnt get back up but I dont take estimations too seriously, its only really in conjunction with news and other views.

Some people had not changed from bitcoinwisdom.com to bitcoinwisdom.IO.  The bitcoinwisdom.io is the one that still works, and is being updated, and seems to work currently.  The other one (bitcoinwisdom.com) seems to not work and is not being updated.  

Is that helpful to what you are trying to do?

Edit:

I mean to change to tradingview as Bitcoinwisdom fell over and didnt get back up

bitcoinwisdom.io

working clone

Woops... looks like jo-squared already got this one.

[criptix]

CSW rekt:

https://twitter.com/wizsecurity/status/1161338703710568448

Hobby prove done by some raspi judges?

Lol

They subpoenad the creator of bitmessage

[Searing]

CSW rekt:

https://twitter.com/wizsecurity/status/1161338703710568448

Hobby prove done by some raspi judges?

Lol

I am unclear on any consequences that 'fake satoshi' would have in this court case. Assuming he is gonna lose it.

1) it is a civil case? thus big whoop?

2) Craig Wright can just not do the judgment or the payment or whatever, if found guilty, being overseas and all?

3) Call "Dog: The bounty hunter!"

Just sum up for me, if he Craig Wright is gonna get 'dinged' on this in any manner,

or he will just walk away without any 'real' consequences.

I want his 'ass' but I think he is gonna walk without even a slap on his tiny wrists.

Brad

[JayJuanGee]

I'm confident that you can easily double-triple some btc by putting it into ethereum now consider how low the btc price is for eth.  I do like that ethereum is gpu miner friendly instead of only asics.

My avatar alter-ego is a shitcoin pumper!!!!!

OMG!!!!!!

[rebal15]

Bitcoin is dropping today....

Don't worry. I guess there are some whales whom binge-drunk today, and unintentionally click on sell button at wrong prices. Consequently, they unintentionally dumped bitcoin. Price will recover next several days.

 No way to know where Bitcoin will go.
It takes massive patience to hodl.
It's never easy when it goes down down down
But holding it's the only way

Changpeng Zhao knows where Bitcoin will go even He tried to make FOMO at $13k via twitter.  He said Bitcoin will never go under $10k. So let wait if bitcoin will keep $10k.

[JayJuanGee]

(or more likely govt. agent). 

Go fuck yourself, Junior G-person.

You are really losing it, jbreher, and that new nick for me, comes off as a wee bit lame. 

You can do moar better, no?

[rebal15]

I'm confident that you can easily double-triple some btc by putting it into ethereum now consider how low the btc price is for eth.  I do like that ethereum is gpu miner friendly instead of only asics.

My avatar alter-ego is a shitcoin pumper!!!!!

OMG!!!!!!

JJG, Ethereum is better than Bitcoin. With ETH, you can scam people and get million of $ in 24h. You won't have to wait 50 years to buy lambo by holding BTC.

[HairyMaclairy]

CSW rekt:

https://twitter.com/wizsecurity/status/1161338703710568448

Hobby prove done by some raspi judges?

Lol

I am unclear on any consequences that 'fake satoshi' would have in this court case. Assuming he is gonna lose it.

1) it is a civil case? thus big whoop?

2) Craig Wright can just not do the judgment or the payment or whatever, if found guilty, being overseas and all?

3) Call "Dog: The bounty hunter!"

Just sum up for me, if he Craig Wright is gonna get 'dinged' on this in any manner,

or he will just walk away without any 'real' consequences.

I want his 'ass' but I think he is gonna walk without even a slap on his tiny wrists.

Brad

Wright v Kleiman is a civil case.

CSW and David Kleiman supposedly mined 1.1 million bitcoins which are tied up in a complicated trust structure called the “Tulip Trust”.  CSW claims the entirety of the trust was handed over to him.

Ira Kleiman, brother of David Kleiman, is suing for half.  

The problem is there is no evidence that any bitcoins were mined, or if they were, they weren’t sold a long time ago. It is almost certain that Tulip Trust is just a bullshit publicity stunt.

So it’s a big law suit about nothing which is going nowhere.  Nothing will happen to CSW - he will just get more publicity.

[Biodom]

If there is no trust with actual 1.1mil btc and by actual I mean btc for which the trust has private keys for, then it is even more idiotic than i thought.
Let's toast to this!

[JayJuanGee]

I already responded both that your facts are not correct and also,

So you're asserting that the charts I posted links to contain fraudulent figures? Interesting. I don't believe your assertion is correct, so I will tentatively conclude that you are delusional on these additional matters of fact.

I'll be happy to rescind my conclusion of delusional, just as soon as you post links to credible evidence of corrected data.

... and even if you might be using some actual facts ... emphasizing facts (if true) in your favor

I know that at one time, in about late 2017, you and your buddy, PeterR were advocating 50/50 or some baloney like that

Nope. You misrememberate. I think Peter suggested just not divesting your other Bitcoins. For my part, I have divulged several times that I have several times the number of BCH, and of BSV, than I do of BTC, though the dollar value of my BTC exceeds the rest of my holdings. And no, I do not feel stupid about it. I fully expect total vindication upon the onset of Blockalypse II. Even if not, I am doing just fine, thankyouverymuch.

That is not much materially different than I had remembered, and of course, you are trying to say that you have some different holding and allocations phylosophy from PeterR.

Nonetheless, it sure it is good to figure out some of these stakes from time to time (even for the benefits of other readers of this thread who might read some of you frequently bitcoin naysaying posts), and surely even though I disagree with you opinions in terms of your choice to hold onto those two shitcoins (bcash variants ABC and SV), I disagree with you pumpening baloney Bcash crap here, but it is laudable that you, at least, to give us some ideas about the approximate ratios of your bcash bag holdings, especially if you are going to be making certain kinds of uptalking attempts of those bcash variants and attempting to suggest that such talk is somehow relevant to this thread, including your ongoing bitcoin neggings..

By the way, even though you are saying that your dollar value held in BTC is greater than BCH and BSV, that would not be too difficult to accomplish by even holding 10x more of each of those stupid ass shit coins, based on current BTC dollar values, but yeah, perhaps there will be some kind of pumpening of those coins, but I doubt that long term holding of those coins would be prudent, nor vindication likely, as you are suggesting, but surely if your money is where your mouth is, then perhaps that is some kind of credibility... even if still seeming to stretch the concept of relevance, here, especially when a kind of meaningful vindication, such as either of those shit projects gaining meaningful network effects to supplant bitcoin (which seems to be what you are suggesting to be not only plausible but likely) seems to be quite a long shot - maybe even in the less than 1% scenarios of likelihood, similar to roach's seeming planning and preparing for Armageddon.....

[El duderino_]

HODLsleep!!!

[bitserve]

I already responded both that your facts are not correct and also,

So you're asserting that the charts I posted links to contain fraudulent figures? Interesting. I don't believe your assertion is correct, so I will tentatively conclude that you are delusional on these additional matters of fact.

I'll be happy to rescind my conclusion of delusional, just as soon as you post links to credible evidence of corrected data.

... and even if you might be using some actual facts ... emphasizing facts (if true) in your favor

I know that at one time, in about late 2017, you and your buddy, PeterR were advocating 50/50 or some baloney like that

Nope. You misrememberate. I think Peter suggested just not divesting your other Bitcoins. For my part, I have divulged several times that I have several times the number of BCH, and of BSV, than I do of BTC, though the dollar value of my BTC exceeds the rest of my holdings. And no, I do not feel stupid about it. I fully expect total vindication upon the onset of Blockalypse II. Even if not, I am doing just fine, thankyouverymuch.

That is not much materially different than I had remembered, and of course, you are trying to say that you have some different holding and allocations phylosophy from PeterR.

Nonetheless, it sure it is good to figure out some of these stakes from time to time (even for the benefits of other readers of this thread who might read some of you frequently bitcoin naysaying posts), and surely even though I disagree with you opinions in terms of your choice to hold onto those two shitcoins (bcash variants ABC and SV), I disagree with you pumpening baloney Bcash crap here, but it is laudable that you, at least, to give us some ideas about the approximate ratios of your bcash bag holdings, especially if you are going to be making certain kinds of uptalking attempts of those bcash variants and attempting to suggest that such talk is somehow relevant to this thread, including your ongoing bitcoin neggings..

By the way, even though you are saying that your dollar value held in BTC is greater than BCH and BSV, that would not be too difficult to accomplish by even holding 10x more of each of those stupid ass shit coins, based on current BTC dollar values, but yeah, perhaps there will be some kind of pumpening of those coins, but I doubt that long term holding of those coins would be prudent, nor vindication likely, as you are suggesting, but surely if your money is where your mouth is, then perhaps that is some kind of credibility... even if still seeming to stretch the concept of relevance, here, especially when a kind of meaningful vindication, such as either of those shit projects gaining meaningful network effects to supplant bitcoin (which seems to be what you are suggesting to be not only plausible but likely) seems to be quite a long shot - maybe even in the less than 1% scenarios of likelihood, similar to roach's seeming planning and preparing for Armageddon.....

IF jbreher would make public his actual holding figures maybe his position would be more understandable. He is basically hedging a more than winning bet in either case. He probably doesn't even "need" (as in won't ever spend) as much Bitcoins as he actually still have. And he is somewhat deluded into thinking that the possibility of a "blockapocallipse" is much higher than it really is... so he does hedge his chances knowing that even if he is wrong in his stance about BCH/BSV he will do (very) well. It will just be a small and almost unnoticeable dent on his total net worth. And if he is (he won't) right then double win.

This is a clear case of YMMV and "don't try this at home". His situation is not the average Bitcoiner one. Again, don't fucking try to do this unless you have so much BTC you feel like you need to do something about it... and recklessly blowing it all on lambos, whores and coke is not your thing.

[Hueristic]

CSW rekt:

https://twitter.com/wizsecurity/status/1161338703710568448

So he can he be charged for these fraudulent actions?

[Syke]

If there is no trust with actual 1.1mil btc and by actual I mean btc for which the trust has private keys for, then it is even more idiotic than i thought.
Let's toast to this!

Highly unlikely such a trust actually exists.

[jojo69]

Here is nothing free in this world.

If something is free, YOU are the product

Can't remember where i got this from, but it's true most of the time.

old Adbusters slogan from the 90s at least

[HairyMaclairy]

CSW rekt:

https://twitter.com/wizsecurity/status/1161338703710568448

So he can he be charged for these fraudulent actions?

Theoretically possible but unlikely

CSW will probably end up losing the law suit and have to pay the costs of Ira Kleiman.  But Ira Kleiman is suing to recover something that doesn’t exist so Ira can’t win in any meaningful sense.

So it will all wash away in a wave of bullshit and the BSV shillboys will proclaim it a miracle for BSV.

Someone will jump on something the judge says in the judgement and hold it up as proof that a US court has ruled that CSW is Satoshi.  Of course it won’t say that, but shillboys will believe anything.