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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188987.msg52609651#msg52609651

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October 03, 2019, 02:19:57 PM

One needs a good deal of darmklachten to put up with this verlakkerij.

Haha if someone knows what  V8 is meaning in here, would be impressive ......... Be quiet Hairy.

verlakkerij = fuckery iirc

darmklachten = Huh - unsure but its probably another word worth learning.

darmklachten sounds like (darmwinde) gut farts in german Smiley

in german: "pupsen" (softer) / "forzen" (more rude)

EDIT: "r0ach ist ein kleiner Furz" means "r0ach is very less important"
Verlakkerij looks Dutch.
Google Translate detects darmklachten as Dutch for intestinal complaints.  Roach's fuckery gives you indigestion?  But Google translates the German "darm lachten" as "guts laughed", so maybe darmklachten really means belly laugh?
Google Tran says Furz is German and it means fart.  Roach is a little fart.  
And to fart is furzen, not forzen.


actually, darmklachten = intestinal complaints
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This is the correct one....

I got hot snakes and bubble gut.

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October 03, 2019, 02:21:20 PM

Isnt anybody watching the cftc jury on cryptocurrency as it is happening live right now? Undecided

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZCDe_Si3k

Just started watching it and they are talking about stablecoins and making some sort of law regarding it.
I think because of libra and them wanting to release it within a year. Embarrassed
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October 03, 2019, 02:23:56 PM

Vaguely referring to Bitcoin but I think its worth a read, as food for though.

Bitcoin is a disruptive technology. The genius is outside the lamp and the "disintermediation" and "peer to peer" winds are too strong to be stopped.

TL, DR:
Vanguard is trying to cut out bank in FX trading, by far the most efficient market with supertight margins, where the banks literally fight for every penny. If this can be done in superliquid markets, guess what kind of damage disintermediation can do in more opaque and illiquid ones.



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Vanguard to Challenge Banks’ Grip on $6 Trillion Currency Market
Indexing giant testing peer-to-peer FX via blockchain
Firm aims to ‘lower the cost of investing for all investors’By Alastair Marsh
(Bloomberg) -- Having revolutionized the business of buying stocks, Vanguard Group is now coming for currencies.
The investing pioneer obsessed with lowering costs is testing a new way for asset managers to trade currencies and avoid big investment banks, according to a person familiar with the matter. The platform, based on the blockchain technology that powers Bitcoin, has been operational for two months and has handled some trades, said the person, asking not to be named because the project is private.
If successful, the venture could shift power in the $6 trillion a day currency market that banks such as JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Deutsche Bank AG have ruled for decades. While skeptics say it will be challenging to get enough investment firms on board, the cost savings of peer-to-peer trading could prove appealing in a world where profits are being squeezed by a race to the bottom on fees and mounting regulatory burdens.
“Direct trading really is the Holy Grail for the buy-side,” said Campbell Adams, a former senior currency trader at Deutsche Bank who founded a platform called ParFX in partnership with banks including Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan. “In theory, it sounds great because you can reduce your costs if you can match directly with someone else who has a countervailing interest,” he said. Yet “it will require a critical mass of users.”
Breaking From Banks
Vanguard, with more than $5 trillion in total assets, trades about $2.5 trillion of currencies a year, Andy Maack, its global head of FX trading, told an industry publication this year. There’s a “tremendous amount of in­terest in the potential for disintermediation,” he said in an interview last month with The Trade, describing a system that would be “decoupled from banks” and price discovery would move to outside platforms able to match peers.
“Vanguard is currently piloting a project focused on improving the efficiency and reducing risk of FX hedging,” company spokeswoman Carolyn Wegemann said, declining to elaborate. It’s part of the firm’s commitment to “lower the cost of investing for all investors,” she said.
Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News, operates an FX trading platform for banks.
Asset managers face a historic shakeout
The project would be among the most significant applications of blockchain in finance. While nearly all major banks and money managers are experimenting with the technology to do everything from issuing bonds to processing payments -- JPMorgan has developed its own digital token and Banco Santander SA has issued tokenized debt -- few have used it in large-scale commercial operations.
The project’s success would also mark a leap in the evolution of the FX market, which has been inching toward a peer-to-peer model over at least two decades, said Adams, who has more than 30 years experience trading currencies and now runs Pure Digital, a venue for cryptocurrencies.
When Adams worked on the FX trading desks of Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Deutsche Bank in the 1990s, asset managers made currency trades almost exclusively through banks. In the mid-2000s, buy-side firms could match trades with other investors on electronic trading platforms but still had to go through a bank to execute them, said Adams. Vanguard’s initiative would bypass that, too.
Success isn’t guaranteed. It remains to be seen how the venture will operate, whether there’ll be sufficient liquidity, who will be allowed to participate and who will be willing to sign up, Adams said.
Swaps, Forwards
A blockchain-based peer-to-peer platform would have greatest impact on swaps and forward markets rather than in spot trading because on a day-to-day basis opposite interests among investment firms may be limited in spot, said Adams. Banks are also more dominant in these derivatives trades because investors may rely on them for credit lines, said Jay Moore, the founder of FX HedgePool, a currency platform that matches buy-side customers.
Vanguard, based in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, is no stranger to challenging convention. Founded in 1975, the investor-owned firm made its name with the first index mutual fund. It later was among the biggest proponents of ditching a long-held market practice that let currency dealers back out of losing trades.
Why proponents see the promise of blockchain
“Vanguard has proven to be pioneering and very forward thinking in many ways, so it makes sense for them to take the lead,” said Moore, who’s based in New York and previously worked for Brown Brothers Harriman. “The market won’t change on its own, it takes someone to push the envelope.”
The Vanguard FX platform uses blockchain technology developed by Symbiont, a New York-based company that’s applying the technology behind Bitcoin to capital markets, said the person familiar with the matter.
This also isn’t the first time Vanguard has partnered with Symbiont: The firms previously teamed up to explore applying blockchain to the investment giant’s process for updating the index data behind its mutual funds. A spokeswoman for Symbiont, which is backed by Citigroup and Nasdaq Inc., declined to comment.

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October 03, 2019, 02:24:44 PM


This time, I'm thinking instead of posting some absurd wish number, LOL... deadline is still next week.. but I'll post something by the weekend maybe. Gonna have to squeeze in between one of those predictions.
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October 03, 2019, 02:24:54 PM

The air carries an unpleasant scent... bad dildos coming?
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October 03, 2019, 02:27:54 PM

That face when you want to buy more corn, but have a weekend getaway planned with your partner, to Napa Valley, for Harvest Season festivities.

 Undecided

 Oh yeah, if anyone is in Napa this weekend, don't come looking for a tall, well-dressed black man, and a sporty-looking ginger.
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October 03, 2019, 02:29:26 PM
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The air carries an unpleasant scent... bad dildos coming?

Possibly from the cftc and what they are saying during this meeting of dlt regulatory measures they want to take on cryptocurrency as a whole?
Thanks facebook and libra coin. Roll Eyes
The price was going up a bit but now boom down when they started talking about it being a commodity exchange factoring into the equation. Embarrassed

Now the sllideshow commences on usdt and stablecoins which are going to cause chaos


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October 03, 2019, 02:34:00 PM

The air carries an unpleasant scent... bad dildos coming?

Seems like there’s a storm brewing, certainly.
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October 03, 2019, 02:38:54 PM

We all should be a much wealthier by October 2020.


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October 03, 2019, 02:45:07 PM

We could really do with a bullish leg up soon, could do with a bit of FOMO for average joe before the halving. Things are a little stale atm.
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October 03, 2019, 02:46:06 PM



don't panic! the median is the small line (at $8000) below.

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That face when you want to buy more corn, but have a weekend getaway planned with your partner, to Napa Valley, for Harvest Season festivities.

 Undecided

 Oh yeah, if anyone is in Napa this weekend, don't come looking for a tall, well-dressed black man, and a sporty-looking ginger.

I think V. Sattui is one of my favorites now. Great wine and tasty food!
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October 03, 2019, 02:58:05 PM

Sh*t as always

I would give u some merit but i have none.


Luckily.... your merit has been proven to have bad re-send value Roll Eyes


maybe i should post pics of my GF and mindless food to get some ?

That would be a start. Post GF pics or GTFO

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October 03, 2019, 03:05:09 PM

This Adolf Hitler fellow had some very practical and innovative solutions to the Jewish problem.  I am also no longer interested in Larry Summer's cashless society slavery system called Bitcoin.  I have seen the error in my ways and anything that's not physical commodity money like silver and gold is a scam.

We are all equal. Black, white, asian whatever. It does not matter and I have only love in my heart. I have absolutely no hatred towards anyone different than me. Life is fun and I do not have schizophrenic paranoia and wild conspiracy theories.


I agree, Roach! Well said!
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October 03, 2019, 03:06:36 PM

Greetings WO`s brothers!!! Cheesy
Thank you for the link Mic, I will definitely take part!
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October 03, 2019, 03:08:31 PM

This Adolf Hitler fellow had some very practical and innovative solutions to the Jewish problem.  I am also no longer interested in Larry Summer's cashless society slavery system called Bitcoin.  I have seen the error in my ways and anything that's not physical commodity money like silver and gold is a scam.

We are all equal. Black, white, asian whatever. It does not matter and I have only love in my heart. I have absolutely no hatred towards anyone different than me. Life is fun and I do not have schizophrenic paranoia and wild conspiracy theories.


I agree, Roach! Well said!

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October 03, 2019, 03:09:35 PM



don't panic! the median is the small line (at $8000) below.



No way observing $7k around some people sell panic but better uses stoplos.  
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October 03, 2019, 03:20:03 PM
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Hey guys, have you ever done some trading on both sides? That is, if you enter Long, do you protect your position in Short with some leverage? This Spanish-speaking Trader did it, the video is from 2018, but it seems to me that the adrenaline he feels is a lot! more when you do it with 100k!


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7p5UTPNPIs&t=14s


As Jesse Livermore did, it is a way to always be in the market, no matter which direction you are going.

Do you think it is convenient to do it right now in the market? Since the price is expected to increase, but if it falls, protect your position.

Obviously, to do this you have to have a lot of experience and try to suppress emotions to the fullest.
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