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[fillippone]

NNT Nails once again.
Paul Krugman: what happened to you?

Dangerous sophistry.
Debt has destroyed societies.

By his reasoning crime is an injury WE inflict to ourselves.

Debt is money SOME groups or individuals owe to OTHER groups and individuals, who may be not born yet. 

The bundling of all agents as "WE" is a naive fallacy.

Paul Krugman
@paulkrugman

DEBT IS MONEY WE OWE TO OURSELVES
DEBT IS MONEY WE OWE TO OURSELVES
DEBT IS MONEY WE OWE TO OURSELVES
DEBT IS MONEY ....

It only make us poorer in aggregate if it crowds out investment — which is isn't doing

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1180589233641181185?s=20


Bitcoin Fixes that.

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[Raja_MBZ]

https://tether.to/tether-anticipates-meritless-and-mercenary-lawsuit-based-on-bogus-study/

Tether is aware of an unpublished and non-peer reviewed paper falsely positing that Tether issuances are responsible for manipulating the cryptocurrency market. Tether vigorously disputes the findings and conclusions claimed by that source, which rely on flawed assumptions, incomplete and cherry-picked data, and faulty methodology.

It’s hard to take them seriously when they sound like they are 12 years old.

Marketcap of USDC + PAX + TUSD = 22%+ of Tether. Last year when I calculated the combined marketcap of these stablecoins, the percentage (versus Tether) was below 10%. Things are improving; we'll eventually get rid of monopoly of Tether.

[JayJuanGee]

The current price is not pleasing to see rather it makes me feel uncomfortable. when will we see the $10,000 again? Should I hold or should I sell? this is the question circulating my mind right now.

Are you talking about bitcoin or something else?    We don't care about shitcoins in this thread, unless you are engaging in a rant against shitcoins or something like that.

In other words, since you seem to be asking really dumb and ambiguous questions which shows you don't really know what the fuck you are doing, if you are talking about bitcoins, and you have any left.  Sell all of them, and relieve yourself of such HODLing misery.  Good luck.

The current price is not pleasing to see rather it makes me feel uncomfortable. when will we see the $10,000 again? Should I hold or should I sell? this is the question circulating my mind right now.

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you should sell, obviously BTC is not for you

I meant to say what jo-squared said (before me).   

[Raja_MBZ]

The current price is not pleasing to see rather it makes me feel uncomfortable. when will we see the $10,000 again? Should I hold or should I sell? this is the question circulating my mind right now.

Are you talking about bitcoin or something else?    We don't care about shitcoins in this thread, unless you are engaging in a rant against shitcoins or something like that.

In other words, since you seem to be asking really dumb and ambiguous questions which shows you don't really know what the fuck you are doing, if you are talking about bitcoins, and you have any left.  Sell all of them, and relieve yourself of such HODLing misery.  Good luck.

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[JayJuanGee]

Of course, if you are getting paid in BTC, then you have different considerations including that you likely have to sell regularly, merely for your living expenses.

There are few (only nutjobs) that believe that anyone should be attempting to live 100% bitcoin when bills/expenses are most likely in fiat.

We are not far from a world where every transaction in life is done digitally. We're already 98% there IMO.

 Switching from this to a world where 90% (at least) of all transactions are done in crypto is not too farfetched of an idea. However, that still remains an ideal world that we few Crypto lovers want to see, until then, like you said, we have to deal with reality.

My point has nothing too much to do with digital, but instead about preparing yourself with your regular expenses on a regular basis.  Of course, if you live some kind of strange no mad living, then maybe you can attempt to get by totally on bitcoin.  

Most regular people are going to have a lot of expenses that are priced in fiat, at least for many years to come, such as if the dollar were to collapse or some kind of aberration event like that, which is far from likely and far from our current status.  

Of course, also, if you live in a country with a very unstable currency, then it also could be practical to keep most of your value in bitcoin.

I doubt that true bitcoiners are looking forward to a digital world, but instead looking forward to the sound money attributes of bitcoin, that also happen to allow them to have a good purpose and to get rich at the same time, since bitcoin is the most sound money ever.. just takes time for it to grow, including network effects and including hoping that something does not get fucked up along the way that would cause bitcoin to no longer have such sound money attributes.. such as some kind of take over or corruption of it.

[Torque]

OT: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bank-crisis-hits-india-bank-stops-functioning-people-crying-outside-bank-branches

Not your keys, not your fiat?

Be your own bank.

Hodl your own keys.

#BUYBITCOIN

[realr0ach]

Don’t freedom of speech us we aren’t interested

There is no "we", mentally ill leftist.  There is only you and a few other subhuman ANTIFA members attempting a Marxist psychological tactic scam of pretending to be the majority when you're not.  All subhuman leftists and Jews have female-like brains focused on linguistics (mindless talking, propaganda, deception) and lacking in everything else.  As seen in the recent Harvard lawsuit, the kikes are overrepresented a million to one at Ivy league colleges solely because they are RIGGING the admissions in favor of Jews and against Whites & Asians, otherwise Asians alone would have slaughtered them and mentally ill, leftist kikes would only make up 2% of admissions instead of 50%.

[HairyMaclairy]

Neat ~100$ spike up. This smells like stop hunting on the way down. My short got just a tad bigger.

I realize we are talking pocket change here.  But this is a high risk strategy in the October before halvening.

Going short in a secular bull market pays poorly.

[d_eddie]

Neat ~100$ spike up. This smells like stop hunting on the way down. My short got just a tad bigger.

I realize we are talking pocket change here.  But this is a high risk strategy in the October before halvening.

Going short in a secular bull market pays poorly.

It's already green again. I placed a stop so it closes in the green. And I really hope it pays very poorly indeed.

And apart from my cold stash, which is intrinsically long, I've got a margin long about twice as large as this short.

[fillippone]

It's time (again) for a Wall Observer Meta Post!
I made this post Monthly, so it will consider the merits sent during the month of September.
So I had to wait for the last merit dump, that included the last day of the month.

Merit analysis based on LoyceV merit file: http://loyce.club/Merit/merit.all.txt

Merit updated to September, 30th, 2019 23:59:59 UTC

Total merits sent on WO:     29748
Monthly Merits sent on WO: 1853 (+726)
Merited Users: 606 (+7)

TOP 100 WO MERIT RECEIVERS:

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1.micgoossens             1937
2.Last of the V8s         1653
3.HairyMaclairy           1315
4.xhomerx10               1177
5.Toxic2040                961
6.BobLawblaw               949
7.jojo69                   859
8.JayJuanGee               795
9.LFC_Bitcoin              765
10.infofront               713
11.VB1001                  604
12.d_eddie                 570
13.Torque                  503
14.bitserve                479
15.gentlemand              416
16.mindrust                397
17.Paashaas                397
18.Elwar                   362
19.Globb0                  351
20.fillippone              351
21.kenzawak                342
22.JimboToronto            302
23.Lambie Slayer           302
24.cAPSLOCK                299
25.mfort312                282
26.Raja_MBZ                278
27.jbreher                 276
28.ivomm                   272
29.kurious                 269
30.Biodom                  266
31.goldkingcoiner          251
32.BTCMILLIONAIRE          247
33.nutildah                245
34.Rosewater Foundation    244
35.JSRAW                   219
36.Phil_S                  218
37.vroom                   204
38.realr0ach               198
39.600watt                 196
40.TERA2                   194
41.Ibian                   187
42.Icygreen                186
43.bones261                184
44.kingcolex               174
45.Kylapoiss               171
46.Hueristic               162
47.marcus_of_augustus      161
48.Arriemoller             155
49.yefi                    153
50.Dabs                    144
51.Pamoldar                143
52.Wekkel                  139
53.Cryptotourist           132
54.StartupAnalyst          130
55.toknormal               130
56.bitcoinPsycho           129
57.Spaceman_Spiff_Original 128
58.SuperTA                 123
59.Anon136                 121
60.vapourminer             118
61.serveria.com            114
62.Bitcoinaire             107
63.kirreev070              107
64.lightfoot               106
65.BinaryReign             105
66.AlcoHoDL                102
67.Cryptoqueeen             97
68.explorer                 97
69.Searing                  89
70.BlindMayorBitcorn        87
71.sirazimuth               86
72.STT                      79
73.Gyrsur                   76
74.somac.                   74
75.HI-TEC99                 74
76.Totscha                  73
77.bkbirge                  73
78.makrospex                71
79.Majormax                 70
80.DeathAngel               70
81.cryptjh                  68
82.pacman7331               66
83.bitebits                 64
84.cannycassiopeia          64
85.conspirosphere.tk        63
86.nanobtc                  59
87.Karartma1                59
88.crypmike                 58
89.suchmoon                 56
90.strawbs                  54
91.Ludwig Von               54
92.Samarkand                54
93.BitcoinNewsMagazine      54
94.theymos                  53
95.FractalUniverse          53
96.RoomBot                  52
97.rolling                  51
98.RayX12                   50
99.fluidjax                 50
100.Dunkelheit667           50

TOP 100 WO MERIT SENDERS:

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1.JayJuanGee              2651
2.BobLawblaw              2013
3.micgoossens             1672
4.LFC_Bitcoin             1232
5.bones261                1071
6.infofront               1002
7.Last of the V8s          824
8.Globb0                   819
9.jbreher                  753
10.vapourminer             719
11.xhomerx10               708
12.mindrust                697
13.HairyMaclairy           655
14.600watt                 598
15.cAPSLOCK                555
16.marcus_of_augustus      502
17.Dabs                    448
18.Toxic2040               442
19.jojo69                  412
20.Torque                  352
21.Paashaas                338
22.QuestionAuthority       311
23.VB1001                  310
24.Hueristic               305
25.d_eddie                 302
26.yefi                    256
27.bitserve                245
28.kurious                 235
29.gentlemand              222
30.Ibian                   211
31.suchmoon                210
32.BlindMayorBitcorn       209
33.Wekkel                  206
34.ErisDiscordia           202
35.fillippone              191
36.kenzawak                191
37.bitebits                188
38.RoomBot                 180
39.Karartma1               179
40.nutildah                170
41.Raja_MBZ                169
42.JimboToronto            166
43.Dunkelheit667           157
44.explorer                155
45.Lambie Slayer           152
46.Gyrsur                  147
47.mfort312                145
48.ssmc2                   137
49.Pamoldar                131
50.ivomm                   131
51.kingcolex               129
52.BTCMILLIONAIRE          118
53.Rosewater Foundation    116
54.edgar                   115
55.Searing                 114
56.Arriemoller             114
57.Majormax                112
58.Biodom                  112
59.goldkingcoiner          110
60.PoolMinor               101
61.xyzzy099                 99
62.P_Shep                   96
63.Phil_S                   96
64.lightfoot                96
65.JSRAW                    95
66.Icygreen                 95
67.sirazimuth               93
68.tonyq                    87
69.julian071                86
70.Kylapoiss                82
71.conspirosphere.tk        82
72.vroom                    81
73.DeathAngel               74
74.criptix                  73
75.RayX12                   73
76.Elwar                    72
77.bitcoinPsycho            68
78.Cryptotourist            67
79.StartupAnalyst           60
80.Wilhelm                  59
81.SuperTA                  59
82.Anon136                  56
83.serveria.com             56
84.empowering               55
85.AlcoHoDL                 52
86.rolling                  52
87.sammy007                 50
88.Jayjay04                 50
89.soullyG                  49
90.STT                      48
91.FractalUniverse          48
92.Bitcoinaire              47
93.Totscha                  46
94.mymenace                 46
95.MrFreeRoMan              45
96.AlexGR                   43
97.bkbirge                  41
98.afbitcoins               40
99.nanobtc                  38
100.flynn                   37

                         
                            
TOP 100 MONTHLY WO RECEIVERS:

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1.micgoossens              104
2.JayJuanGee                95
3.LFC_Bitcoin               94
4.VB1001                    91
5.HairyMaclairy             90
6.Last of the V8s           79
7.SuperTA                   78
8.fillippone                76
9.d_eddie                   57
10.jojo69                   47
11.Lambie Slayer            47
12.mindrust                 45
13.xhomerx10                39
14.makrospex                38
15.nutildah                 33
16.Dabs                     30
17.Biodom                   29
18.BobLawblaw               28
19.serveria.com             28
20.Toxic2040                27
21.JSRAW                    27
22.vroom                    27
23.Wilhelm                  27
24.gentlemand               25
25.Icygreen                 24
26.Globb0                   23
27.Paashaas                 22
28.Phil_S                   21
29.bkbirge                  21
30.Raja_MBZ                 20
31.Arriemoller              20
32.ivomm                    19
33.kurious                  18
34.Cryptoqueeen             16
35.BlindMayorBitcorn        15
36.Dunkelheit667            15
37.600watt                  14
38.jbreher                  13
39.Hueristic                13
40.LUCKMCFLY                13
41.Bitcoinaire              12
42.JimboToronto             11
43.Elwar                    10
44.P_Shep                   10
45.DaRude                    9
46.lightfoot                 8
47.becoin                    8
48.GreatArkansas             8
49.Ibian                     7
50.bitcoinPsycho             7
51.Gyrsur                    7
52.Totscha                   7
53.nikauforest               7
54.Krubster                  7
55._javi_                    7
56.Negotiation               7
57.arewethereyet?            7
58.akhjob                    7
59.DeathAngel                6
60.Ludwig Von                6
61.heslo                     6
62.psycodad                  6
63.Torque                    5
64.bitserve                  5
65.cAPSLOCK                  5
66.marcus_of_augustus        5
67.Pamoldar                  5
68.Spaceman_Spiff_Original   5
69.vapourminer               5
70.erre                      5
71.Lauda                     5
72.soxxx                     5
73.ssmc2                     5
74.goldkingcoiner            4
75.sirazimuth                4
76.DireWolfM14               4
77.tranthidung               4
78.dragonvslinux             4
79.HI-TEC99                  3
80.Majormax                  3
81.Saint-loup                3
82.Findingnemo               3
83.mersal                    3
84.realr0ach                 2
85.kingcolex                 2
86.Kylapoiss                 2
87.Cryptotourist             2
88.STT                       2
89.somac.                    2
90.rdbase                    2
91.Cassius                   2
92.btcbeliever               2
93.rebal15                   2
94.Fatman3001                2
95.OROBTC                    2
96.bucciarati                2
97.legendster                2
98.Wekkel                    1
99.toknormal                 1
100.Searing                  1
       

TOP 100 MONTHLY WO SENDERS   

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1.micgoossens              210
2.Dabs                     194
3.JayJuanGee               173
4.LFC_Bitcoin              103
5.mindrust                  69
6.VB1001                    62
7.Globb0                    61
8.600watt                   59
9.vapourminer               57
10.HairyMaclairy            53
11.BobLawblaw               48
12.fillippone               40
13.Last of the V8s          38
14.SuperTA                  35
15.d_eddie                  29
16.Wilhelm                  29
17.jbreher                  26
18.suchmoon                 24
19.Lambie Slayer            24
20.makrospex                24
21.Hueristic                21
22.jojo69                   19
23.nutildah                 18
24.xhomerx10                17
25.ssmc2                    17
26.AT101ET                  17
27.Raja_MBZ                 15
28.Biodom                   15
29.bones261                 14
30.gentlemand               14
31.serveria.com             14
32.Toxic2040                13
33.JSRAW                    13
34.bkbirge                  13
35.Icygreen                 12
36.psycodad                 12
37.Dunkelheit667            11
38.Phil_S                   11
39.BayAreaCoins             10
40.Paashaas                  9
41.JimboToronto              9
42.Arriemoller               9
43.sirazimuth                9
44.Ludwig Von                9
45.LUCKMCFLY                 9
46.infofront                 8
47.Torque                    7
48.ivomm                     7
49.DaRude                    7
50.kurious                   6
51.kingcolex                 6
52.LoyceV                    6
53.Pamoldar                  5
54.P_Shep                    5
55.vroom                     5
56.Cryptoqueeen              5
57.Fatman3001                5
58.Ibian                     4
59.Majormax                  4
60.Totscha                   4
61.Negotiation               4
62.Dotto                     4
63.akhjob                    4
64.Bossian                   4
65.Gyrsur                    3
66.DeathAngel                3
67.bitcoinPsycho             3
68.Bitcoinaire               3
69._javi_                    3
70.malevolent                3
71.mersal                    3
72.Cryptotourist             2
73.rdbase                    2
74.The Pharmacist            2
75.GreatArkansas             2
76.OROBTC                    2
77.≡║▐µ                      2
78.NeuroticFish              2
79.Krubster                  2
80.UNOE                      2
81.rs1x                      2
82.cAPSLOCK                  1
83.Wekkel                    1
84.Searing                   1
85.lightfoot                 1
86.Kylapoiss                 1
87.AlcoHoDL                  1
88.ChinkyEyes                1
89.Spaceman_Spiff_Original   1
90.smartcomet                1
91.DireWolfM14               1
92.bitcoincidence            1
93.Saint-loup                1
94.nikauforest               1
95.WastedLTC                 1
96.Patel                     1
97.Dux2K                     1
98.btcbeliever               1
99.cabalism13                1
100.Scheede                  1

           
 
MONTHLY sMERITS BALANCE

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SMerits Balance=Received Merits/2-Sent Merits

Positive Balance means an user has been increasing sMerits on the WO thread, while negative numbers means the users has sent more merits on WO than received.
Negative numbers are possible or because he has been generous this week because he has been greedy past weeks (so only temporary imbalance), or because he has hoarded sMerits on other threads spending them on WO thread, or because he's a merit source.

TOP 20 MONTHLY NET RECEIVERS

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1.vroom                    8.5
2.BlindMayorBitcorn        7.5
3.Elwar                      5
4.jojo69                   4.5
5.SuperTA                    4
6.kurious                    3
7.Bitcoinaire                3
8.lightfoot                  3
9.Cryptoqueeen               3
10.xhomerx10               2.5
11.bitserve                2.5
12.ivomm                   2.5
13.marcus_of_augustus      2.5
14.nikauforest             2.5
15.erre                    2.5
16.Lauda                   2.5
17.Paashaas                  2
18.goldkingcoiner            2
19.GreatArkansas             2
20.heslo                     2

TOP 20 MONTHLY WO NET SENDERS

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1.Dabs                    -179
2.micgoossens             -158
3.JayJuanGee            -125.5
4.LFC_Bitcoin              -56
5.vapourminer            -54.5
6.600watt                  -52
7.Globb0                 -49.5
8.mindrust               -46.5
9.BobLawblaw               -34
10.suchmoon                -24
11.jbreher               -19.5
12.VB1001                -16.5
13.Wilhelm               -15.5
14.Hueristic             -14.5
15.ssmc2                 -14.5
16.bones261                -14
17.BayAreaCoins           -9.5
18.psycodad                 -9
19.HairyMaclairy            -8
20.infofront                -8

                 
Nice update, I think monthly cadence is more insightful, as less prone to weekly imbalances due to MS drought.
Sadly, It a little bit delayed update, but I commit doing those as soon as sir LoyceV releases data dumps.

Well we saw a little bit of merit circulation improvement in September, apparently the end of holiday season had more impact than the sideways action in September.
We see our Mic topping a number of charts here.
Hail to the King of WO!

Still fixing glitches here and there, I am using this to getting better at data management (errors are mine).

[Searing]

The current price is not pleasing to see rather it makes me feel uncomfortable. when will we see the $10,000 again? Should I hold or should I sell? this is the question circulating my mind right now.

Are you talking about bitcoin or something else?    We don't care about shitcoins in this thread, unless you are engaging in a rant against shitcoins or something like that.

In other words, since you seem to be asking really dumb and ambiguous questions which shows you don't really know what the fuck you are doing, if you are talking about bitcoins, and you have any left.  Sell all of them, and relieve yourself of such HODLing misery.  Good luck.

Hmmm...

★ 20 posts Max per day
★ Sr Member: 0.00012 BTC per constructive post.

I'm afraid it will go the way of the last campaign 20 posts per day...Theymos is gonna kill that quick as hell at 1x 10x 100x the users even if posts are legit
now 40 posts to 50 posts a week...maybe that would fly...as is IMHO its toast.

As to sh*tcoins...I miss the days I used to mine sh*tcoins to Bitcoin...good times...I miss crypto mining.

[realr0ach]

We see our Mic topping a number of charts here.
Hail to the King of WO!

Iniquity and decay spreads through the minds of digital shitcoin scammers as they await physical silver judgement day.

[infofront]

A great writer and an untiring herald of science, Isaac Asimov. But kinkiness never was his strong point.

Indeed - I was always taught that a proper limerick had to contain "Nantucket" somewhere.

[realr0ach]

Indeed

Wasn't going to bother voting at all in 2020 because Trump's support of red flag gun laws, his complicity in the numerous, obvious false flag shootings to try and ban the 2nd amendment, his complicity in the numerous overseas false flags in places like Syria trying to drag America to war for the Jews, his trying to drag America to war against Iran for Jews, and millions of other pathetic, Jew servant things he's done.  

But then I clicked his Twitter page and 99% of the comments are demonic Jews like Richard Haas crying about him for failing to ban the 1st and 2nd amendment, and failing to convince whites to go and die for Jews in Iran, so maybe I'll vote for him solely because his existence makes Jews upset.

[Negotiation]

Have a nice day WO guys
Observing $8066.94

Next hour see to $7k zone?

[realr0ach]

Next hour see to $7k zone?

The real stop is 0 because the internet is considered a "military battleground" by (((the pentagon))) and every other government on earth.  So Bitcoin only works while they want it to work, which means you have to ask the question why do they want it working?  To try and trick people away from physical metals and into a cashless society slavery system where you're tracked in real-time like cattle...until the internet is weaponized in some sort of dispute or they shut it off on a whim and it doesn't work at all.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think Warren Buffet is a great investor, his books are very educational in terms of financial investment. Just when he spoke badly about Bitcoin, I was disappointed, but seeing this:



Lol, this guy knows how to describe one of the reasons why Buffet can't understand this world.

[Icygreen]

in other pre-crimes

Ten people have been arrested in south London on suspicion of conspiracy to cause a public nuisance.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49946821

Extinction rebellion said police had seized tents, toilets and disabled access equipment, claiming they were "the very things that would make the international rebellion in London safe, clean and accessible to all".

It came after the European Court of Human Rights ruled police could preventatively detain people, even if they have no specific intelligence linking the individual to the crime.

That reminds me of "thought police". George Orwell, Nineteen eighty four.
An outrageous story in its time, conspiracy theory in 1984 and yet today's news.
Just need to fire up the detention camps.

[Negotiation]

Next hour see to $7k zone?

The real stop is 0 because the internet is considered a "military battleground" by (((the pentagon))) and every other government on earth.  So Bitcoin only works while they want it to work, which means you have to ask the question why do they want it working?  To try and trick people away from physical metals and into a cashless society slavery system where you're tracked in real-time like cattle...until the internet is weaponized in some sort of dispute or they shut it off on a whim and it doesn't work at all.

buddy just ask them what the thinking people we are everyone known that bitcoin price spike next few days or month but we are unknown background of bitcoin we are not be control bitcoin movement, other hand government fact is another thinks because government can not be manage bitcoin price.

[realr0ach]

Lol, this guy knows how to describe one of the reasons why Buffet can't understand this world.