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November 01, 2019, 02:45:56 PM

in re the 'lost 4btc on lightning' claim
~snipped~ ... the evidence?

https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/1189678498337574912
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https://www.reddit.com/user/RustyReddit/ read his posts there to see the evolving proof (yes yes proof of lack of proof) against this rot.

I posted this weeks ago!!!!!!!!


Granted it was before breher overlooked it to claim it was a farce, but still,

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November 01, 2019, 02:51:34 PM

Every crisis has a solution that very few see, some countries like Venezuela and Argentina see refuge in Bitcoin, prefer Bitcoin that FIAT.

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Since 2013, volumes on Argentine peso, Hong Kong dollar, and Venezuelan bolivar bitcoin pairs have exceeded $600 billion in total value.


Via Twitter: @CryptoWelson

Other countries like Italy prefer to use Bitcoin than Credit Cards for online purchases. And worldwide we begin to see the weakening of FIAT.

Source:https://ambcrypto.com/bitcoins-demand-seems-stronger-with-every-weakening-fiat/
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November 01, 2019, 02:58:32 PM

The monthly update:



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Have a nice November, Gentlemen! Smiley

this is what we were waiting for, if we close november in green, its most likely that we are gonna have a new experience on moon
lets see if this lovely green candle comes out at the end of this month, then we can have a great party showing the world what does HODL means Grin

I still see 4 digits and seems like we are stuck in there forever LOL but few days ago the 5 digit was looking nice.

Yaah waiting when 5 digit  :'(80% losses my total BTCBTC balance i hope 5 digit soon.
holding up.

80%, means you are all in HODL since the beginning? and you are not all in BTC, cuz bitcoin has not lost 80% by now Huh
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EDIT: "Real Satoshi" (not CSW) tweeting again. https://twitter.com/SatoshiNRH

So that's what Satoshi Nakamoto looks like??



I'm extremely disappointed!!  Grin Grin

#nohomo

So...the "real" Satoshi comes out supporting "blockchain not Bitcoin"...



Even though the REAL Satoshi never once mentioned blockchain "a chain of blocks".

block chain, not blockchain  Grin



 ...and yet it's Headroom rather than Head room


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Awe so me  Shocked
Thanks a ton  Grin
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November 01, 2019, 03:20:31 PM

I posted this weeks ago!!!!!!!!


Granted it was before breher overlooked it to claim it was a farce, but still,



He didn't overlooked it - like always-  he play's stupid games trying to hide behind a pointing finger and do something irrational out of ignorance.
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November 01, 2019, 03:24:31 PM



You must be really screwing things up if you have 80% losses at this point.

How long have you been in this Negotiation?   Since June?  Even then, fuck you really need a batman slap, no?


Yeah I don’t understand how anybody could be at an 80% loss right now. Even if you bought your only coins at the ATH it’s only slightly over a 50% loss at the current price.
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November 01, 2019, 03:27:36 PM

Yeah I don’t understand how anybody could be at an 80% loss right now. Even if you bought your only coins at the ATH it’s only slightly over a 50% loss at the current price.
Well imagine you lost few trades with really high volume. It's not impossible. I thing with Negotiation that's what happened.
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November 01, 2019, 03:39:48 PM
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Yeah I don’t understand how anybody could be at an 80% loss right now. Even if you bought your only coins at the ATH it’s only slightly over a 50% loss at the current price.
Well imagine you lost few trades with really high volume. It's not impossible. I thing with Negotiation that's what happened.

Sad for him, hopefully he can recover & it hasn’t damaged him financially too much. This is why I buy & HODL, buy & HODL, buy & HODL.

Day trading (short term trading & leverage) is gambling.
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November 01, 2019, 03:43:58 PM

This is why I buy & HODL, buy & HODL, buy & HODL.
Same with me.
Who the F goes for trading LOL
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Nearly Identical Patterns Here

https://twitter.com/ElCryptoChief/status/1190287633999683584
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November 01, 2019, 04:03:07 PM

The monthly update:



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Have a nice November, Gentlemen! Smiley

this is what we were waiting for, if we close november in green, its most likely that we are gonna have a new experience on moon
lets see if this lovely green candle comes out at the end of this month, then we can have a great party showing the world what does HODL means Grin

I still see 4 digits and seems like we are stuck in there forever LOL but few days ago the 5 digit was looking nice.

Yaah waiting when 5 digit  :'(80% losses my total BTCBTC balance i hope 5 digit soon.
holding up.

80%, means you are all in HODL since the beginning? and you are not all in BTC, cuz bitcoin has not lost 80% by now Huh

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November 01, 2019, 04:12:26 PM

Perhaps.

But one issue is that bitcoin tends to be a bit more volatile, so you seem to be projecting (or perhaps hoping) for a kind of price stability that is not very much a part of current BTC price dynamics.

Yeah well, I already made that point:

"2x per year" lines, plus Anon's predictions:
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I doubt the rise well be that smooth and orderly. This is corn we're talking about.

Just because I put his predictions on my graph, doesn't mean I agree with them. It's a way to visualize them.
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Other countries like Italy prefer to use Bitcoin than Credit Cards for online purchases.

And where exactly did you get this bullshit from?
No country in Europe right now prefer using Bitcoin over credit card , and you are quoting freaking Italy, one of the least modern country in Europe, using Bitcoin over credit card for online shoppping? and to buy what exactly since 99% of goods cannot be purchased with Bitcoin?

And given that 99% of people have a credit/debit card and probably less than 5% of people have Bitcoin in Italy, your post makes absolutely 0 sense. No offense.
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Other countries like Italy prefer to use Bitcoin than Credit Cards for online purchases.

And where exactly did you get this bullshit from?
No country in Europe right now prefer using Bitcoin over credit card , and you are quoting freaking Italy, one of the least modern country in Europe, using Bitcoin over credit card for online shoppping? and to buy what exactly since 99% of goods cannot be purchased with Bitcoin?

And given that 99% of people have a credit/debit card and probably less than 5% of people have Bitcoin in Italy, your post makes absolutely 0 sense. Cannot believe the shit posted on this forum sometimes

You can corroborate my statements here:


https://es.cointelegraph.com/news/italians-prefer-btc-to-visa-or-mastercard-when-shopping-online

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https://dailyhodl.com/2019/11/01/italians-opt-for-bitcoin-in-e-commerce-with-shoppers-gearing-up-for-crazy-deals-on-black-friday-and-cyber-monday/

And there is much more information if you start to investigate a little more.
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November 01, 2019, 04:45:43 PM

This is why I buy & HODL, buy & HODL, buy & HODL.
Same with me.
Who the F goes for trading LOL

There are a variety of trading styles and practices.  Some of them are more risk taking than others, and some of them are just taking advantage of bitcoin's inevitable volatility in order to profit from such volatility without getting greedy about it.


Perhaps.

But one issue is that bitcoin tends to be a bit more volatile, so you seem to be projecting (or perhaps hoping) for a kind of price stability that is not very much a part of current BTC price dynamics.

Yeah well, I already made that point:

"2x per year" lines, plus Anon's predictions:
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I doubt the rise well be that smooth and orderly. This is corn we're talking about.

Just because I put his predictions on my graph, doesn't mean I agree with them. It's a way to visualize them.

Fair enough.  I was just responding to the substance of the matter and not really to you personally, even though I threatened with batman.. just for funzies.   Wink

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your post makes absolutely 0 sense. Cannot believe the shit posted on this forum sometimes

That's why the forum has an "open door" policy in order that peeps like you can set us straight. (no homo)    Wink
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Other countries like Italy prefer to use Bitcoin than Credit Cards for online purchases.

And where exactly did you get this bullshit from?
No country in Europe right now prefer using Bitcoin over credit card , and you are quoting freaking Italy, one of the least modern country in Europe, using Bitcoin over credit card for online shoppping? and to buy what exactly since 99% of goods cannot be purchased with Bitcoin?

And given that 99% of people have a credit/debit card and probably less than 5% of people have Bitcoin in Italy, your post makes absolutely 0 sense. Cannot believe the shit posted on this forum sometimes

You can corroborate my statements here:


https://es.cointelegraph.com/news/italians-prefer-btc-to-visa-or-mastercard-when-shopping-online

and:

https://dailyhodl.com/2019/11/01/italians-opt-for-bitcoin-in-e-commerce-with-shoppers-gearing-up-for-crazy-deals-on-black-friday-and-cyber-monday/

And there is much more information if you start to investigate a little more.


The article I read in my native language say that Paypal is number 1 in Italy and apparently big majority of people use Paypal because their credit card is linked to the Paypal account, otherwise of course they would use the credit card directly over Bitcoin. This article posted is a great example of twisting facts. I am positive on Bitcoin, but saying Italians use more often Bitcoin than a credit card to pay online makes no sense, shouldn't need any article to know that Smiley
Anyway, all the best. Sorry if I sounded offensive but it's important to stand back when reading an "article".
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November 01, 2019, 04:59:11 PM

BTC HODLERS and DEMO traders not affected!

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Last night on October 31, 2019, at around 21:00 UTC, we experienced issues with our BTC index calculation mechanism. This caused a significant price drop on our exchange and sequentially triggered multiple invalid liquidations.

We would like to personally apologize to all traders that got affected by this issue and guarantee that our team has been working tirelessly to fix the issue as soon as possible. One of the aspects that ensures fair liquidation process is a manipulation resistant index. We have always ensured this by having multiple index constituents and excluding outlier exchanges. Unfortunately, due to a bug in our system, one of the outliers did not get excluded, which accordingly caused the flash crash. This was a fault of our system; therefore, we take responsibility for the incident.

Due to this, we tried to find the least damaging way to solve this as best as we can. After some discussion, we decided that the fairest solution would be compensating traders that got falsely liquidated and those who got affected by unwarranted stop-loss orders. Equity levels of all these accounts have been effectively brought back to pre-crash levels. A total amount of more than 150 BTC or $1.3 million got reimbursed this morning.

Moreover, we have been receiving a lot of questions about not rolling back the trades. Crypto markets are highly connected, and most market makers and arbitragers are following strategies that require hedging their positions on other platforms. Rollback of trades could have been even more damaging and would have taken additional time, thus exposing their positions to uncovered market risk for longer. This was our mistake, therefore, we wanted this to affect our traders as least as possible.

As of now, we have fixed the issue, and all constituents of the index are included in its calculation. Our index is robust again, and yesterday’s incident could not happen anymore.  However, we are taking further measures to improve it even more, so that there are additional mechanisms in place to protect the exchange from situations like this.

We continue to believe in a fair, efficient and transparent crypto market and strive to uphold this standard in all our actions and services provided. We learn from every mistake made and appreciate all the support we have received from our clients.

We thank you for choosing our platform and hope that you will continue trading on Deribit.


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November 01, 2019, 05:01:46 PM

There are a variety of trading styles and practices.  Some of them are more risk taking than others, and some of them are just taking advantage of bitcoin's inevitable volatility in order to profit from such volatility without getting greedy about it.
I had this feeling that you will jump in it 🤓
Yeah I know brother. However it's too risky for me so holding is my only option.
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November 01, 2019, 05:03:09 PM

Hello WO Gang.
Bear with me and allow me to bump up here (for the last time, promise) my Merit Source application thread.
This is my Merit Source application thread:


I hope you can support it with a merit, a comment or whatever you think it is appropriate.
Even if you oppose (I hope that it is not the case) you can comment.
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