Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[jbreher]

Where you at BSv shills? jbreher?

Dunno why you're summoning me. I ain't got no dog in this fight. Do you?

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[nutildah]

[edited out]

Sorry to equate your casual dismissal of something to declaring said thing to be a "farce." How dare I.

Jbreher selective representation of facts and incredible leaps of logic

Like what? Asking for links to the evidence so one is able to reach a conclusion themself? Hardly a seleective representation of facts, nor any leap of logic whatsoever.

I thought trustlessness was one of the core principles behind this grand journey we all share. Don't trust - verify. amirite?

Well, you _could_ have just verified the information yourself instead of throwing the ball back to the non-SV crowd. Especially after such evidence was presented to you in my post that you overlooked in order to ask for evidence.

[somac.]

Eyeing off the order book on bitstamp, it seems that the bears are gaining a bit more support. The sell side is growing and will soon balance out the buy side. This will make it easier for the price to go down. Still not even on the buys and sells, but getting there.

I'm hoping we don't have a bart on our hands.

[fillippone]

It's time (again) for a Wall Observer Meta Post!
I made this post Monthly, so it will consider the merits sent during the month of October.
So I had to wait for the last merit dump, that included the last day of the month.
Also delaying a few day for my vaguely-bitcoin related Florence offsite.

Merit analysis based on LoyceV merit file: http://loyce.club/Merit/merit.all.txt

Merit updated to October, 31th, 2019 23:59:59 UTC

Total merits sent on WO:     31899
Monthly Merits sent on WO: 1326 (-527)
Merited Users: 621 (+15)

TOP 100 WO MERIT RECEIVERS:

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1.micgoossens             2010
2.Last of the V8s         1695
3.HairyMaclairy           1337
4.xhomerx10               1200
5.BobLawblaw               995
6.Toxic2040                961
7.jojo69                   894
8.LFC_Bitcoin              838
9.JayJuanGee               824
10.infofront               794
11.VB1001                  627
12.d_eddie                 607
13.Torque                  507
14.bitserve                485
15.gentlemand              422
16.Paashaas                408
17.mindrust                401
18.fillippone              388
19.Elwar                   385
20.Globb0                  356
21.kenzawak                342
22.Lambie Slayer           326
23.cAPSLOCK                311
24.JimboToronto            305
25.Raja_MBZ                296
26.jbreher                 287
27.ivomm                   285
28.Icygreen                283
29.mfort312                282
30.kurious                 282
31.goldkingcoiner          278
32.Biodom                  270
33.nutildah                252
34.BTCMILLIONAIRE          247
35.Rosewater Foundation    244
36.JSRAW                   236
37.Phil_S                  222
38.vroom                   208
39.Dabs                    200
40.realr0ach               199
41.600watt                 197
42.TERA2                   194
43.Ibian                   188
44.bones261                184
45.kingcolex               175
46.Hueristic               174
47.Kylapoiss               173
48.Arriemoller             173
49.marcus_of_augustus      164
50.yefi                    155
51.Pamoldar                150
52.Wekkel                  139
53.Cryptotourist           137
54.SuperTA                 135
55.bitcoinPsycho           134
56.StartupAnalyst          130
57.toknormal               130
58.Spaceman_Spiff_Original 128
59.vapourminer             125
60.Anon136                 121
61.serveria.com            116
62.AlcoHoDL                115
63.Bitcoinaire             114
64.lightfoot               112
65.BlindMayorBitcorn       107
66.BinaryReign             107
67.kirreev070              107
68.makrospex               105
69.Searing                  98
70.Cryptoqueeen             97
71.explorer                 97
72.Gyrsur                   93
73.sirazimuth               86
74.STT                      82
75.bkbirge                  78
76.somac.                   77
77.HI-TEC99                 77
78.DeathAngel               76
79.Majormax                 74
80.Totscha                  73
81.cryptjh                  68
82.pacman7331               66
83.bitebits                 64
84.cannycassiopeia          64
85.conspirosphere.tk        63
86.nanobtc                  59
87.theymos                  59
88.Karartma1                59
89.crypmike                 58
90.Olegya199                57
91.suchmoon                 56
92.strawbs                  54
93.Ludwig Von               54
94.rolling                  54
95.Samarkand                54
96.BitcoinNewsMagazine      54
97.Dunkelheit667            54
98.FractalUniverse          53
99.RoomBot                  52
100.RayX12                  50

TOP 100 WO MERIT SENDERS:

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1.JayJuanGee              2779
2.BobLawblaw              2098
3.micgoossens             1798
4.LFC_Bitcoin             1314
5.bones261                1071
6.infofront               1062
7.Globb0                   853
8.Last of the V8s          853
9.vapourminer              779
10.jbreher                 759
11.xhomerx10               734
12.mindrust                715
13.HairyMaclairy           668
14.600watt                 622
15.marcus_of_augustus      602
16.cAPSLOCK                587
17.Dabs                    476
18.Toxic2040               442
19.jojo69                  434
20.Paashaas                361
21.Torque                  356
22.Hueristic               321
23.d_eddie                 321
24.VB1001                  314
25.QuestionAuthority       311
26.yefi                    258
27.bitserve                248
28.kurious                 241
29.suchmoon                241
30.gentlemand              225
31.fillippone              223
32.Ibian                   211
33.BlindMayorBitcorn       209
34.Wekkel                  206
35.ErisDiscordia           202
36.kenzawak                191
37.bitebits                190
38.RoomBot                 180
39.nutildah                180
40.Karartma1               179
41.JimboToronto            172
42.Raja_MBZ                171
43.Dunkelheit667           164
44.Lambie Slayer           162
45.explorer                155
46.Gyrsur                  153
47.mfort312                145
48.ssmc2                   140
49.Pamoldar                136
50.ivomm                   133
51.kingcolex               130
52.Arriemoller             122
53.Searing                 118
54.BTCMILLIONAIRE          118
55.Biodom                  117
56.Majormax                117
57.Rosewater Foundation    116
58.goldkingcoiner          116
59.edgar                   115
60.Icygreen                112
61.JSRAW                   107
62.lightfoot               103
63.PoolMinor               101
64.xyzzy099                 99
65.P_Shep                   98
66.Phil_S                   97
67.sirazimuth               95
68.vroom                    88
69.tonyq                    87
70.julian071                86
71.conspirosphere.tk        82
72.Kylapoiss                82
73.DeathAngel               79
74.Elwar                    75
75.RayX12                   73
76.criptix                  73
77.bitcoinPsycho            70
78.Cryptotourist            68
79.SuperTA                  61
80.StartupAnalyst           60
81.Wilhelm                  59
82.serveria.com             57
83.Anon136                  56
84.empowering               55
85.Bitcoinaire              53
86.AlcoHoDL                 53
87.rolling                  53
88.makrospex                52
89.sammy007                 50
90.Jayjay04                 50
91.soullyG                  49
92.STT                      48
93.FractalUniverse          48
94.Totscha                  46
95.mymenace                 46
96.DaRude                   45
97.MrFreeRoMan              45
98.Ludwig Von               44
99.AlexGR                   43
100.bkbirge                 42

                        
                            
TOP 100 MONTHLY WO RECEIVERS:

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1.Icygreen                  97
2.infofront                 81
3.micgoossens               73
4.LFC_Bitcoin               73
5.Dabs                      56
6.BobLawblaw                46
7.Last of the V8s           42
8.d_eddie                   37
9.fillippone                37
10.jojo69                   35
11.makrospex                34
12.JayJuanGee               29
13.LUCKMCFLY                28
14.goldkingcoiner           27
15.Lambie Slayer            24
16.xhomerx10                23
17.VB1001                   23
18.Elwar                    23
19.HairyMaclairy            22
20.BlindMayorBitcorn        20
21.Raja_MBZ                 18
22.Arriemoller              18
23.JSRAW                    17
24.Gyrsur                   17
25.Olegya199                14
26.ivomm                    13
27.kurious                  13
28.AlcoHoDL                 13
29.cAPSLOCK                 12
30.Hueristic                12
31.SuperTA                  12
32.jackbauercsgo            12
33.MichaelX                 12
34.Paashaas                 11
35.jbreher                  11
36.adamstgBit               11
37.rdbase                   10
38.Searing                   9
39.katrinmi                  8
40.nutildah                  7
41.Pamoldar                  7
42.vapourminer               7
43.Bitcoinaire               7
44._javi_                    7
45.bitserve                  6
46.gentlemand                6
47.lightfoot                 6
48.DeathAngel                6
49.theymos                   6
50.gwaur                     6
51.Globb0                    5
52.Cryptotourist             5
53.bitcoinPsycho             5
54.bkbirge                   5
55.P_Shep                    5
56.soxxx                     5
57.btcbeliever               5
58.Torque                    4
59.mindrust                  4
60.Biodom                    4
61.Phil_S                    4
62.vroom                     4
63.Majormax                  4
64.Dunkelheit667             4
65.erre                      4
66.Krubster                  4
67.akhjob                    4
68.psycodad                  4
69.dragonvslinux             4
70.JL0                       4
71.JimboToronto              3
72.marcus_of_augustus        3
73.STT                       3
74.somac.                    3
75.HI-TEC99                  3
76.rolling                   3
77.Lauda                     3
78.smartcomet                3
79.LoyceV                    3
80.whiteboy420               3
81.Richy_T                   3
82.teosanru                  3
83.btcanonymous666           3
84.Alai19                    3
85.Kylapoiss                 2
86.yefi                      2
87.serveria.com              2
88.BinaryReign               2
89.Syke                      2
90.Saint-loup                2
91.Millionero                2
92.plasticAiredale           2
93.qwizzie                   2
94.heslo                     2
95.Fatman3001                2
96.NeuroticFish              2
97.ataArt                    2
98.realr0ach                 1
99.600watt                   1
100.Ibian                    1

           

TOP 100 MONTHLY WO SENDERS:

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1.micgoossens              210
2.Dabs                     194
3.JayJuanGee               173
4.LFC_Bitcoin              103
5.mindrust                  69
6.VB1001                    62
7.Globb0                    61
8.600watt                   59
9.vapourminer               57
10.HairyMaclairy            53
11.BobLawblaw               48
12.fillippone               40
13.Last of the V8s          38
14.SuperTA                  35
15.d_eddie                  29
16.Wilhelm                  29
17.jbreher                  26
18.suchmoon                 24
19.Lambie Slayer            24
20.makrospex                24
21.Hueristic                21
22.jojo69                   19
23.nutildah                 18
24.xhomerx10                17
25.ssmc2                    17
26.AT101ET                  17
27.Raja_MBZ                 15
28.Biodom                   15
29.bones261                 14
30.gentlemand               14
31.serveria.com             14
32.Toxic2040                13
33.JSRAW                    13
34.bkbirge                  13
35.Icygreen                 12
36.psycodad                 12
37.Dunkelheit667            11
38.Phil_S                   11
39.BayAreaCoins             10
40.Paashaas                  9
41.JimboToronto              9
42.Arriemoller               9
43.sirazimuth                9
44.Ludwig Von                9
45.LUCKMCFLY                 9
46.infofront                 8
47.Torque                    7
48.ivomm                     7
49.DaRude                    7
50.kurious                   6
51.kingcolex                 6
52.LoyceV                    6
53.Pamoldar                  5
54.P_Shep                    5
55.vroom                     5
56.Cryptoqueeen              5
57.Fatman3001                5
58.Ibian                     4
59.Majormax                  4
60.Totscha                   4
61.Negotiation               4
62.Dotto                     4
63.akhjob                    4
64.Bossian                   4
65.Gyrsur                    3
66.DeathAngel                3
67.bitcoinPsycho             3
68.Bitcoinaire               3
69._javi_                    3
70.malevolent                3
71.mersal                    3
72.Cryptotourist             2
73.rdbase                    2
74.The Pharmacist            2
75.GreatArkansas             2
76.OROBTC                    2
77.≡║▐µ                      2
78.NeuroticFish              2
79.Krubster                  2
80.UNOE                      2
81.rs1x                      2
82.cAPSLOCK                  1
83.Wekkel                    1
84.Searing                   1
85.lightfoot                 1
86.Kylapoiss                 1
87.AlcoHoDL                  1
88.ChinkyEyes                1
89.Spaceman_Spiff_Original   1
90.smartcomet                1
91.DireWolfM14               1
92.bitcoincidence            1
93.Saint-loup                1
94.nikauforest               1
95.WastedLTC                 1
96.Patel                     1
97.Dux2K                     1
98.btcbeliever               1
99.cabalism13                1
100.Scheede                  1

  
MONTHLY sMERITS BALANCE

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SMerits Balance=Received Merits/2-Sent Merits

Positive Balance means an user has been increasing sMerits on the WO thread, while negative numbers means the users has sent more merits on WO than received.
Negative numbers are possible or because he has been generous this week because he has been greedy past weeks (so only temporary imbalance), or because he has hoarded sMerits on other threads spending them on WO thread, or because he's a merit source.

TOP 20 MONTHLY NET RECEIVERS

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1.Icygreen                31.5
2.LUCKMCFLY                 11
3.BlindMayorBitcorn         10
4.Elwar                    8.5
5.VB1001                   7.5
6.goldkingcoiner           7.5
7.Raja_MBZ                   7
8.Olegya199                  7
9.AlcoHoDL                 5.5
10.MichaelX                  5
11.ivomm                   4.5
12.SuperTA                   4
13.theymos                   3
14.gwaur                     3
15.Gyrsur                  2.5
16.Lambie Slayer             2
17.Cryptotourist           1.5
18.STT                     1.5
19.bkbirge                 1.5
20.Lauda                   1.5

TOP 20 MONTHLY WO NET SENDERS

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1.JayJuanGee            -113.5
2.marcus_of_augustus     -98.5
3.micgoossens            -89.5
4.BobLawblaw               -62
5.vapourminer            -56.5
6.LFC_Bitcoin            -45.5
7.Globb0                 -31.5
8.suchmoon                 -31
9.cAPSLOCK                 -26
10.600watt               -23.5
11.DaRude                  -22
12.Fatman3001              -20
13.infofront             -19.5
14.Paashaas              -17.5
15.mindrust                -16
16.xhomerx10             -14.5
17.fillippone            -13.5
18.BinaryReign             -10
19.Hueristic               -10
20.Ludwig Von               -9

                 
Well we saw a little bit of merit circulation crunch in October. Some new air in the top positions. Nice to see a few "new" names rotation in the top receivers and top senders for this month! WO Gang is alive!
Also nice to see a solid increase of new merited members!

Still fixing glitches here and there, I am using this to getting better at data management (errors are mine).

[El duderino_]

via Imgflip Meme Generator

[Last of the V8s]

blah blah blah poverty porn

damn nutella where you get all those merits
wait let me stalk you a little bit
hmm, good posting, who'd've thought
seriously congrats man you deserve it
guessing you'll stay ahead now fuck

[Last of the V8s]

Basorexia

[bkbirge]

https://cointelegraph.com/news/one-whale-was-behind-bitcoins-2017-bull-run-claim-researchers

“Simulations show that these patterns are highly unlikely to be due to chance. This one large player or entity either exhibited clairvoyant market timing or exerted an extremely large price impact on Bitcoin that is not observed in aggregate flows from other smaller traders.”

[nutildah]

Don't fret big boy you're still 494 earned merits ahead of me, which is jaw-dropping. You're lucky that the WO crowd has such a hardon for you. Whats amazing is that, according to BPIP, you have the 9th most e-merits of everyone on the forum. Good job on cracking the top 10. Whats also bizarre is that I'm #14... only 5 positions and an almost 500 merit differentiation. That's weird.

I earn my merits from posting cool shit like this.



This post may go meritless but that's besides the point.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Don't fret big boy you're still 494 earned merits ahead of me, which is jaw-dropping. You're lucky that the WO crowd has such a hardon for you. Whats amazing is that, according to BPIP, you have the 9th most e-merits of everyone on the forum. Good job on cracking the top 10. Whats also bizarre is that I'm #14... only 5 positions and an almost 500 merit differentiation. That's weird.

I earn my merits from posting cool shit like this.



This post may go meritless but that's besides the point.

This tells us that Pakistani Muslim’s don’t fill out the census forms.

[Last of the V8s]

Hmm cartographers are (all!) so bigoted against the differently colour-able. In other words I can't tell if the Scots think they're Brits or Scots or if the Irish think they're Scots which of course some of them are if you go back far enough...
I raise you

[somac.]

https://cointelegraph.com/news/one-whale-was-behind-bitcoins-2017-bull-run-claim-researchers

“Simulations show that these patterns are highly unlikely to be due to chance. This one large player or entity either exhibited clairvoyant market timing or exerted an extremely large price impact on Bitcoin that is not observed in aggregate flows from other smaller traders.”

Seriously, apparently every bull run ever in crypto was done by scammers according to these establishment fuckwits. Same old story every time. God forbid it is actually normal people realizing how fucked up the current system is and then desiring to move their wealth and labor elsewhere.

Let me guess if it wasn't for this whale, tether, willy bot, random scapegoat, etc the price of BTC would be zero. Because who would want an asset that is completely separate from that always awesome store of value called government fiat. No one that's who, only scammers and Whales. Everyone dump your bitcoin for fiat, because its current value is only because of 1 whale, not 2, not 3, but 1.

Fucking geniuses.

[xhomerx10]

Basorexia

 Wow!  Very cool.

[Last of the V8s]

https://cointelegraph.com/news/one-whale-was-behind-bitcoins-2017-bull-run-claim-researchers

“Simulations show that these patterns are highly unlikely to be due to chance. This one large player or entity either exhibited clairvoyant market timing or exerted an extremely large price impact on Bitcoin that is not observed in aggregate flows from other smaller traders.”

Seriously, apparently every bull run ever in crypto was done by scammers according to these establishment fuckwits. Same old story every time. God forbid it is actually normal people realizing how fucked up the current system is and then desiring to move their wealth and labor elsewhere.

Let me guess if it wasn't for this whale, tether, willy bot, random scapegoat, etc the price of BTC would be zero. Because who would want an asset that is completely separate from that always awesome store of value called government fiat. No one that's who, only scammers and Whales. Everyone dump your bitcoin for fiat, because its current value is only because of 1 whale, not 2, not 3, but 1.

Fucking geniuses.

This is a super post but I dispute that the last bull run was much about normies waking up if I may paraphrase. For me it was all about drama. Segwit implementation and the NY coup attempt by Mike Belshe et al. fuckwits, with a minor sprinkling of tether fud sure.

But that's the previous bull run and I do think normies are waking up now to the disastrous current system and the bitcoin way of defeating it. Will that fuel this next bull run? I think it's still too soon, and maybe in 6 years things will really take off, when 2nd layer stuff becomes a thing or has been discarded like the proverbial cumrag.

No what we need for the next year or two's bull run is not wanky halvening studies nowadays known as s-to-f, not half-assed fraud attempts by CSW and not delayed Goxcoins, but some fresh drama to light the fire in traders bellies. A massive hack with a new villain. A whale burns half a million coins when he had meant to dump them. A concerted attack on xrp/eos/eth and a gov threat to attack btc.

I demand more bitcoin drama otherwise I'm going to sit here and attack you all with weaksauce memes and lectures on good grammar and we'll only get to 55k ffs. edit https://stephanlivera.com/episode/122/ planb stuff with transcript

[LUCKMCFLY]

Calculations of 7-10% per year, not bad ..

Verification of what I said before: #bitcoin cash & carry (spot buying btc and simultaneously future selling for delivery in 1-6 months) will net you 7-10% annualized return .. almost risk free.
@stephanlivera
 and I talk about this in the podcast that will be out later today.

Source: https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1191293123298832386



Source: https://twitter.com/skewdotcom/status/1191289006027419648

Conservative Strategy

[El duderino_]

Basorexia

Damn V8 you making me jealous

[JayJuanGee]

Do you even understand the purpose of escrow?

Yes Dabs, I understand the purpose of escrow, thank you.

I also understand that you keep the coins (acting as the escrow agent) until everything is resolved.
All for the scammers convenience - to make it happen. Or not, you might argue.

The problem is that there is nothing to sell or buy. I thought it was pretty clear:

~ are trying to make the most of what is inevitably going to happen (BTC>moon), and we should pay them for that?

#

It does sound fair. But then only if others decide to contribute.

Ah? Nope.

Their intentions are irrelevant, as I don't think either party will agree anyway. ~

Thank gawd they are so greedy & dumb, but their intentions are far from irrelevant.

#

Dabs i completley understand Escrow, ~

Get fucking lost.

#

~ To everyone else, that's the whole point of escrow, to prevent scams and scammers from directly taking your coins and disappearing. All conditions must be met. Sorry if it looks like I'm feeding a troll, I like this one a little better than the others.

OK Dabs, that is IF we trust you to act as an escrow, and we are convinced that you are not part of this in any other way.
Sorry for thinking like this - I don't believe you are involved - but you are the only single member to "support" these losers - which is weird.

You have some decent points, Cryptotourist.   I kind of agree with Dabs that there is some kind of objectivity in escrowing, so in that sense, Dabs's framing of the objectivity of whole matter can appear to be kind of obviously a fair thing to do; however, at some point the level of scam is so god damned obvious that attempting to objectify it or give it any kind of level of normalcy then rises to the level of enabling scammers to get their message out, and could end up hurting some people because there seems to be some ambiguity regarding is there a scam going on.

So, yeah, this is a obvious scam.  Kriptonium, who is either the same diptwat that was here a few months ago or some new diptwat with a similar scam proposal, is obviously attempting to figure out how to get some bitcoins in his hands without providing any kind of service.  Even the most sophisticated service could not provide what diptwat Kriptonium is proposing, and yeah, inevitably BTC's price is going to go up, and yeah, if some people pay diptwat Kriptonium then he and perhaps his royal we can assert that he and perhaps his royal we caused what they had not caused.

Therefore, your points are quite valid, Cryptotourist regarding the supplying of a platform for obvious scammers.

On the other hand, I do recall that sometimes there is some toying with the scammers, and frequently even the proposal to actually escrow will cause the scammer to NOT follow through, but in this case, I could see a scammer agree to escrow, and then still end up getting paid for doing nothing beyond just soliciting within the forum and getting people to pay into the escrow, then the bitcoin price does what it does (such as goes up), and then the scammer claims credit (and gets paid).  A scenario like that would be real bullshit, and it should not be desired to be any part of promoting that kind of morally repulsive situation. 

By the way (kind of an aside), the only redeeming aspect of scammers getting free coins is that frequently the dumbest (or the most desperate) of people get into that nonsense, and sooner or later they were quite likely to lose their coins.  Scammers will just accelerate a very likely status of removing coins more quickly from weak hands, but sometimes even weak hands should be protected from this nonsense, because there are some less likely scenarios that such weak-handed dumbass/desperate peeps looking to be scammed might end up learning before they actually end up getting scammed or otherwise removed from their coins. 

[_javi_]

blah blah this and that..

and nobody observe the green candles..

have a nice week!

go BTC go!!

[JayJuanGee]

Eyeing off the order book on bitstamp, it seems that the bears are gaining a bit more support. The sell side is growing and will soon balance out the buy side. This will make it easier for the price to go down. Still not even on the buys and sells, but getting there.

I'm hoping we don't have a bart on our hands.

Don't we already know that frequently looking at orderbooks, we frequently see reverse indications, so in that regard if sell orders are stacking up on bitstamp, then frequently the price will move in that direction and if the buyers can buy up all of those coins on the order book, it becomes a kind of free sailing once they get through the stacked up coins on the order books.

This is an old play, somac.  It's been seen many, many, many times in bitcoinlandia, so in other words, it seems quite dangerous to presume that BTC's price is going down or failing to go up, merely because sell orders are stacking up on various order books whether on bitstamp or other exchanges and even if you see a pattern of sell orders piling up across many exchanges.

[El duderino_]

blah blah this and that..

and nobody observe the green candles..

have a nice week!

go BTC go!!

That’s a green drop on a hot plate.....

But nonetheless go BTC go