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December 07, 2019, 03:45:17 AM

Always liked listening to Tangerine Dream: Optical Race at times like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66IdO4dgJtU&list=PLSlV6dc1AjH754pXNqykeQil5cWd7a0lE&index=1

Still an amazing album after all these years (and done on an Atari 520ST if I recall)

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December 07, 2019, 03:47:08 AM

Can we climb the wall of worry out of the downward bear channel?  Lower green base line is same long term base line shown in charts above.  Is it the ladder to the halvening or is it the final capitulation trap?  Will have to wait and see.

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December 07, 2019, 03:50:40 AM

Nice  Model for ATH..

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https://digitalik.net/btc/days_since_ath

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December 07, 2019, 04:05:10 AM

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December 07, 2019, 04:47:29 AM
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The new hat. Decided this was the most incognito and least likely to draw unwanted attention. Lets see if anyone recognizes it at all.

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December 07, 2019, 05:15:56 AM

^Love it !
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December 07, 2019, 05:17:37 AM

Happy days all on track


So what this basically tells me is that its likely that we will reach $13,900 on or near the day of the halving, and that this bull market is more than likely going to be similar to the last one, although it moved differently , it will come back to that line and go above and below it.
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December 07, 2019, 05:24:05 AM

So what this basically tells me is that its likely that we will reach $13,900 on or near the day of the halving, and that this bull market is more than likely going to be similar to the last one, although it moved differently , it will come back to that line and go above and below it.

Yup that’s pretty much it. 
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December 07, 2019, 05:30:32 AM

those kinds of BTC price fluctuations (whether fake outs or not) did not trigger any of my BTC sell orders or my BTC buy orders, so my amount of BTC stayed the same, so the value of my BTC stayed the same, too when the price moved up and down.

I think I see the problem.
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December 07, 2019, 05:33:27 AM

Makin' a list

checkin' it twice

gonna find out whose ESR isn't nice

Capacitor Claus is coming, to townnnn

Whatcha using to measure ESR? I bought one of those chinese micro-based component testers that are supposed to measure ESR, but it does not yield repeatable results. I'm back to desoldering, grafting together a jig, and measuring as DC resistance. Grr.
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December 07, 2019, 05:36:02 AM

Yeah, of course, there are still a lot of dumbasses who actually believe the bearwhale propaganda,

Which bearwhales are spreading propaganda?
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December 07, 2019, 05:38:43 AM

The French are revolting.

Indeed. And they're defying their governors, too.
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December 07, 2019, 05:43:06 AM

Yeah, of course, there are still a lot of dumbasses who actually believe the bearwhale propaganda,


Which bearwhales are spreading propaganda?

If I was a whale....I have a channel on youtube LIVE and then taped on how to manipulate the BTC market as a whale...it would be 'epic'

er ..maybe that would not work real-time..instead, do the deed then show how you did it a week later when you recovered your position, etc

just saying...there is extreme gaming ....this would be cooler than cool and maybe showing how it was done would lead to some education

on such antics and people would learn to avoid panic on such

dreaming...but watching a whale antics would be cool win or lose

later

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December 07, 2019, 05:55:09 AM

Noice!
I think it has been long ago since I stopped congratulate you for your good job and commitment to avoid being repetitive but.. hmmmm, good fucking job! Tongue

It is a reflex act, WO has provided me with very good times.

Didn't checked it out yet, but make sure the origin of the HAT-story is on the page Cheesy

Will check out shortly, just a few things I gotta do now ...

You can tell this story, send me a PM. I will publish it, the publication credit will be for you.
I remember that it all started with some hats that you showed on the thread and then xhomerx10 threw his first hat at Hairy.
But surely you have many more details about why a hat, impatient to know.
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Guys, I'm glad you like it, now think of the project as something that unites us and belongs to everyone,
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December 07, 2019, 05:56:57 AM


I find it rather comforting to learn that 'Column J' has stayed well within a two-order-of-magnitude range over the listed date range.

Err...
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December 07, 2019, 05:57:28 AM


Whatcha using to measure ESR? I bought one of those chinese micro-based component testers that are supposed to measure ESR, but it does not yield repeatable results. I'm back to desoldering, grafting together a jig, and measuring as DC resistance. Grr.

Same, some Won Hung Lo knockoff of that German guy's circuit.  I agree, not great for caps, AWESOME for sorting bins of random 3 legged silicon though!

I'm just shotgunning actually.  The scope is 30 years old.  If it's electrolytic it goes.  If it's Tantalum it gets a serious stink eye.



He knows if the DC's leaking

or if the ripple is to great

he knows if the electrolyte

is dissolving the copper trace


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or Panasonic

those no name brands just won't cut it

Capacitor Claus is coming toooooo townnnnnnnnn
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December 07, 2019, 06:15:02 AM

those kinds of BTC price fluctuations (whether fake outs or not) did not trigger any of my BTC sell orders or my BTC buy orders, so my amount of BTC stayed the same, so the value of my BTC stayed the same, too when the price moved up and down.

I think I see the problem.

Maybe you can explain?

I was not expressing the matter as a problem.

Day 1 - BTC prices were at about $7,200.

Day 1.5 - BTC prices bounced to about $7,772.70.

Day 2 - BTC prices were at about $7,200.


I was just saying that my BTC were worth the same on Day 2 as they had been on Day 1 and none of my sell orders triggered.

So, there is not a problem.

We have already had some variation of this conversation, and in that older conversation, I was actually asserting that maybe you should not be trading BTC so frequently, especially if you are supposedly already relatively well off from bitcoin.  But, I understand that maybe I was presuming too much, and you want to continue to trade BTC on smaller price increments.  That is your personal choice, and it is discretionary regarding how you value your time versus how much money (whether bitcoin or dollars) that you may or may not be able to stack up by trading so frequently versus how much time it takes to manage your trades, especially if you are carrying them out manually.

Like I mentioned, I started trading when BTC prices were at about $250, and as BTC prices went further and further up, my intention was to structure my BTC trading increments to go up, not only in dollar terms but also in percentage terms.  When I first started, I wanted to get so fucking much practice that I actually just structured my trades to at least minimally be profitable by covering the trade fees and maybe a fraction of a percent of profit off of each trade.  I wanted so much practice that I set the increments small so that I was practicing a lot.  By the time BTC prices got into the 4 digits realm, I was feeling a whole hell of a lot better in terms of my having had learned through practice, and I felt that I did not need as much practice, and at various points as BTC's price went up, I restructured a larger and larger percentage of BTC price change would have to take place before my BTC orders were going to be triggered (whether selling or buying).

That restructuring took place all the way up to $20k, but when BTCV prices came back down to $3k I made the increments smaller and of course, when they went up to $14k they got larger again, and then smaller again upon coming down to $7k-ish.

This has neither been a set-in-stone system nor an exact predetermined tweaking of my system.  I have had to roll with the punches a bit and to try to figure out what kinds of time versus money management was comfortable for me, which includes considering how much time I am willing to tolerate resetting BTC buy/sell orders versus other ways that I want to spend my time versus how much money I felt that I would be making whether the increments are set smaller versus larger - even though I would assert that I have achieved ongoing movements towards increasing my increments larger and larger and larger as BTC prices are mostly UP as compared to when I first started, but I also have continued to feel less inclined to either practice trading BTC in the smaller increments or any kind of need to make extra money by spending my time in that way.

Of course, I have not completely removed myself from the BTC trading game, and perhaps my regular spreads seem to be quite easily in the more than 10% arena before they even start - and that is way the fuck more than I need to cover exchange fees, like when I started, and currently, I am thinking that even if BTC prices go up to $100k or more, I am likely going to end up trading BIGGER BTC price swings.. perhaps in the greater than 25% arena.   

But, yeah, these matters are not exactly set in stone, but I have ideas in my head about where I am and where I would prefer to go under various scenarios, whether the BTC price goes up or down, and of course if the BTC price continues to go up, as many of us tentatively suspect to be likely, then my trade increments are going to continue to get quite a bit larger, and I won't be giving too many shits about trading BTC at all, except perhaps on the REAL BIG price swings.

That is the goal, and it seems to have been working out pretty well so far in terms of causing greater and greater increments for me (which includes less actual time spent trading BTC), and let's see where we end up... hopefully UPward prices and even less trading.

Again, jbreher, what is the problem, exactly?  You are suggesting that I could have made money and I did not?  Fuck that.  I don't give too many shits about those small BTC price moves, and that is largely the punch line.  If you are suggesting something else, then please explain or let me know if there is something that I have not adequately described in order that you understand what I was saying in my earlier post.
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December 07, 2019, 06:18:38 AM

So what this basically tells me is that its likely that we will reach $13,900 on or near the day of the halving, and that this bull market is more than likely going to be similar to the last one, although it moved differently , it will come back to that line and go above and below it.

Yup that’s pretty much it. 
A $250,000-$300,000 Bitcoin makes sense. Bitcoin went from $5,000 to $20,0000 in a 2 month span. I would say its probable that we see Bitcoin go from $100,000 to $300,000 in a similar type of time span. $100k is obviously a significant number and when we do hit it, its going to be a huge story.

Glad I get to sit back and watch this drama play out.
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December 07, 2019, 06:22:17 AM

The French are revolting.

It doesn't qualify as a revolt until the Jews are expelled.
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December 07, 2019, 06:22:21 AM

Yeah, of course, there are still a lot of dumbasses who actually believe the bearwhale propaganda,

Which bearwhales are spreading propaganda?

I was not referring to any bearwhale(s) in particular.  You should have been able to understand my mean ing from my earlier post.

There is a general phenomenon that bearwhales employ both hard dumping and FUD spreading or whatever they can in order to attempt to get the BTC price to go down for as long and as far that is possible... and at some point they are not able to achieve such downward movement and have to start to go with UP because otherwise they are going to get REKKT if the momentum changes to up while they are trying to push down that is not working.

You need more specifics regarding the point(s) that I was attempting proclaim as a general phenomenon, or are you just trying to stir shit? 

By the way, you likely should realize from my referred-to post that I was not even attempting to make any kind of specific assessment regarding whether BTC prices were going to continue to go down in the short to medium term or not, because like usual, I have hardly any kind of meaningful clue that goes much beyond 50/50.
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