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Question: Where will this rally top out?
Already topped <$7,000 - 14 (22.2%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 4 (6.3%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 7 (11.1%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 3 (4.8%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 5 (7.9%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 1 (1.6%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 0 (0%)
$10K+ - 29 (46%)
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December 29, 2019, 06:14:24 PM

I officially doubt 8000 :p I think there might be a greater trend taking priority but price can go anywhere if volume should stay light then later confirm elsewhere on greater full market volume.

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So $50,000/BTC and $0.50/ADA is all basically what I expect (and hope for) before November.

50k BTC is 2021 talk if we are lucky, if we are lucky at all in the next decade as far as I can see.   Forget the price, we have to consider the total market capital available in this sector or even just BTC but that total then is in contrast to other asset types and alternative markets to this one.   If bonds leak alot of value (they've risen since Reagan first got in) then yea 50k I agree but even then alot of that value is going to gold, other FIAT currency especially commodity wealthy countries with good trade balance and of course stocks always rise nominally when value of the currency declines unless the business fails but globally that wont be it.    
  In short 50k BTC has to be on a seesaw  and see some other value go down as BTC rises, thats what I expect.   Large figures dont move as easily, naturally the rate of change should not be increasing but decreasing over time.

BTC price right now is at some resistance.
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December 29, 2019, 06:17:53 PM

Good morning Coinland.
Happy 5th day of Xmas.
5 golden bitcoins.

We're creeping upward
Seven four twenty dollars
(Bitcoinaverage).

Let's finish the year
With a spectacular rise
For a new decade.
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December 29, 2019, 06:43:28 PM
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https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-long-now-pt-4-snip/

At first glance this looks incredibly pretentious. Might give it another go when less tired.


https://medium.com/@nic__carter/in-support-of-the-proof-of-work-un-fair-launch-cd6e8f06358f

This looks downright boring but maybe am being a bit hasty.


https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2019/12/28/

Summarises old crap from the year. Actually possibly not too bad.
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December 29, 2019, 07:33:08 PM

Some criteria about Bitcoin bullish ..

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Are we in a $BTC bear market?

No, we are in the re-accumulation phase of a bull market.


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That's great. Looks like he is asserting that there is some significant numerical measure entitled 'On-Chain Investor Activity'. What exactly is this measure?
I think it is because of the volume, and it may take it, supported perhaps by a possible divergence. It's what I can intuit from there
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December 29, 2019, 07:53:32 PM

Parabolic up!
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December 29, 2019, 08:01:03 PM

Parabolic up!
Where's our "Go, Bitcoin, Go" guy when we need him?

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December 29, 2019, 08:06:05 PM

Parabolic up!
Where's our "Go, Bitcoin, Go" guy when we need him?



Few post earlier
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December 29, 2019, 08:08:15 PM

Parabolic up!

Please......

Observing $7462

I am due to buy again tomorrow once I can get cash into the bank in the morning so hold on for then Wink
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December 29, 2019, 08:11:24 PM

Parabolic up!

I'm not surprised. My bet on Mic's thread was 19k+ and there are only 2 days left to reach that.
So parabolic up is a must!
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December 29, 2019, 08:18:44 PM

Parabolic up!
Where's our "Go, Bitcoin, Go" guy when we need him?



Few post earlier
Need him on every page, I like him.
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December 29, 2019, 08:28:43 PM
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I officially doubt 8000 :p I think there might be a greater trend taking priority but price can go anywhere if volume should stay light then later confirm elsewhere on greater full market volume.

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So $50,000/BTC and $0.50/ADA is all basically what I expect (and hope for) before November.

50k BTC is 2021 talk if we are lucky, if we are lucky at all in the next decade as far as I can see.   Forget the price, we have to consider the total market capital available in this sector or even just BTC but that total then is in contrast to other asset types and alternative markets to this one.   If bonds leak alot of value (they've risen since Reagan first got in) then yea 50k I agree but even then alot of that value is going to gold, other FIAT currency especially commodity wealthy countries with good trade balance and of course stocks always rise nominally when value of the currency declines unless the business fails but globally that wont be it.    
  In short 50k BTC has to be on a seesaw  and see some other value go down as BTC rises, thats what I expect.   Large figures dont move as easily, naturally the rate of change should not be increasing but decreasing over time.

BTC price right now is at some resistance.

Overall, you seem quite bearish on upside potentiality of bitcoin.  It is like you don't even understand the asset that we continuously discuss in this thread.

Sure, I am NOT a person who banks on  $50k having to happen in 2020, 2021 or even any time before 2028, but still I recognize and appreciate the upside potential which could end up delivering us a $500k bitcoin in 1-2 years.  Of course, this might not happen also, but the mere fact that bitcoin already has a lot of value in it does NOT take away from the fact that it continues to have considerable upside potential, including that we only have less than 1% of world adoption, and financial institutions continue to be quite skeptical of bitcoin, even while BTC investment vehicles are increasingly coming available to them.

Yeah, right Roll Eyes Roll Eyes you believe that gold has some kind of significant ability to absorb distressed value merely because it has financial vehicles already vastly in place and developed, but in the end, you really believe that such grandpa coin (referring to gold) is really going to appreciate in value beyond perhaps a 2x or a 3x in the coming years, even in the best of scenarios?  A more likely gravitation of value into gold would result in less than a 2x appreciation of value, and surely the top of bitcoin is neither $50k in one to two years, but instead also has some decent probabilities of being front run in terms of the timing of the likely upcoming BTC price appreciation.

And, fuck also the speculation that alts have to come with.  Yeah, there might be some of the alts coming with on such BTC price surging trip, but such altcoin season is not in any way any kind of condition precedent, even if they have more pumpamentals (scammer richard heart term) due to their having way less liquidity.

I could give two shits in terms of my own investment whether BTC stays stagnant in the less than $20k range in the coming years or takes 8 years to pump to new ATHs, but my own financial and psychological preparation for worser case scenarios should not be considered to take away from those kinds of more bearish scenarios for bitcoin seem to be quite unlikely to actually take place, and we have decent odds of going to $20k plus before the end of 2021.. and the odds are decent too that we could also end up in a supra $150k territory in the same before the end of 2021 timeframe.

Hopefully, peeps like you, STT are not holding back in their BTC investment based on lack of acceptance of the decent likelihood of more bullish BTC scenarios that could equally end up knocking us off our feet in similar ways as the seemingly 2017 over performance of BTC.  I agree with your assertion that the degree of the bubbles are likely to become less and less and less in bitcoin with the passage of time but even that is not a condition precedent and even that would not negate going to $250k (because $250k is only about a 63x price bubble, which would still have been less than our approximate 78x 2017 price bubble).


https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-long-now-pt-4-snip/

At first glance this looks incredibly pretentious. Might give it another go when less tired.


https://medium.com/@nic__carter/in-support-of-the-proof-of-work-un-fair-launch-cd6e8f06358f

This looks downright boring but maybe am being a bit hasty.


https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2019/12/28/

Summarises old crap from the year. Actually possibly not too bad.

Nice articles V8....


Not sure if you are playing the glass-half-full card that STT seems to be playing with seeming conviction, or if you genuinely are such a pessimistic poop.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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December 29, 2019, 08:28:52 PM

Gosh brave little ETH with the tiny growth spurt today.
Maybe raja is right and it's all about the shitcoins now.
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December 29, 2019, 08:31:40 PM

Gosh brave little ETH with the tiny growth spurt today.
Maybe raja is right and it's all about the shitcoins now.
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Meh!
We all know where shitcoin gains end up so let it be Wink
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December 29, 2019, 08:44:52 PM
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Parabolic up!

Please......

Observing $7462

I am due to buy again tomorrow once I can get cash into the bank in the morning so hold on for then Wink

You better be loaded up by now.  You've had more than 5 years to accomplish such loading up.

Remember what Shroomskit used to say?

You want the BTC price to go down in order that all of us have to suffer in order that you can buy another .01BTC...?

hahahahahahaha
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December 29, 2019, 08:49:37 PM

Parabolic up!

Please......

Observing $7462

I am due to buy again tomorrow once I can get cash into the bank in the morning so hold on for then Wink

You better be loaded up by now.  You've had more than 5 years to accomplish such loading up.

Remember what Shroomskit used to say?

You want the BTC price to go down in order that all of us have to suffer in order that you can buy another .01BTC...?

hahahahahahaha

Oh yeah, I’m totally loaded up trust me. I enjoy buying, buying, buying. It’s my hobby to keep getting MOAR Smiley

I am nearly at a big round number for me (OCD to get there).

Obviously if it went to 100k tonight though I can live with missing out on that target ha.
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Parabolic down

Somebody doesn’t want us to hit $7500
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Parabolic down

Somebody doesn’t want us to hit $7500

Nah we've been chipping away at it. We'll get there soon this week.
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December 29, 2019, 09:06:08 PM

Parabolic up!

Please......

Observing $7462

I am due to buy again tomorrow once I can get cash into the bank in the morning so hold on for then Wink

You better be loaded up by now.  You've had more than 5 years to accomplish such loading up.

Remember what Shroomskit used to say?

You want the BTC price to go down in order that all of us have to suffer in order that you can buy another .01BTC...?

hahahahahahaha

Oh yeah, I’m totally loaded up trust me. I enjoy buying, buying, buying. It’s my hobby to keep getting MOAR Smiley

I am nearly at a big round number for me (OCD to get there).

Obviously if it went to 100k tonight though I can live with missing out on that target ha.

I will agree that it is kind of ironic how many of us do have a tendency to gravitate towards nice round numbers including yours truly....

There is another aspect about having goals that is nice, too, even if they might not be achieve, it is good to have targets, and frequently we can even surprise ourselves regarding how a previously seemingly "unachievable" target comes within reach.

Frequent posters here repeat ourselves, but I would like to repeatedly admit that have a bit of an abstract goal to NOT allow my BTC stash to go below a certain admittedly round number, but in the end, similar to you, it remains a kind of random goal that I would be more than willing to violate under certain currently unknown opportunistic circumstances.   Wink
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December 29, 2019, 09:07:11 PM

I'm worried right now because the last few days I hope that my prediction in Mic game won't win.   Embarrassed

Although I think a lot of people would have liked that price.
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