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January 04, 2020, 02:15:30 PM

Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,346

Are we going bullish?

As long as we stay below $8.200 in january, i'd be bearish (short term).

Probably because of this chart?

https://s32659.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/first-trendlines-second-img.jpg



Green: support
Blue: resistance

Would be nice if this chart remains valid. Another move below 7k in January-February would mean 2020 is gonna be shit my dear friends  Wink


I draw my own lines (see some pages behind), but this chart, which i haven't seen before, at least i'm not aware of, would match scenario B (over $8.2k) quite well.
In scenario A (sub $6k) the support line would just have to be skewed to the right a little. Everyone can see in these long term charts, if the ranges become so big, much movement is possible, while still fitting most short- and mid-term prognoses. Post-halvening bullery will come, it's a question of impact, more than a question of time, imho.

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January 04, 2020, 02:38:46 PM

Analysis by Wyckoff, a bullish rally may occur up to $ 9k for this spring ... maybe at the end of January.

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$BTC #BTC $XBT #BTCUSD

This is what I see..

I'll leave the narrative up to you.


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Source: https://twitter.com/888Velvet/status/1213069881559662593

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Source: https://www.newsbtc.com/2020/01/04/bitcoin-poised-spring-past-9000-coming-weeks/

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Ohh Mic at it again with his generous games! Thank you micgoosssens!
And thanks for reposting the announcement. I'd missed it at first.
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https://twitter.com/atarirogue/status/1213470427399499776?s=21
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January 04, 2020, 03:08:41 PM

Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,346

Are we going bullish?

As long as we stay below $8.200 in january, i'd be bearish (short term).


Pffff... it means you seriously believe the price is going down? To 6k 5k or lower? 4 months before the halving? Really?
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January 04, 2020, 03:40:30 PM

Will bitcoin price rally in q1 q2 2020?

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The first month of the year has historically been bearish for bitcoin prices. Maybe funds are thin after the holiday period or other factors are at play.
This year may buck that trend though as Q1 starts out in the green.

https://bitcoinist.com/will-bitcoin-price-rally-in-q1-q2-2020/


https://twitter.com/skewdotcom/status/1213208004264448002

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Last edit: January 04, 2020, 04:10:29 PM by Gyrsur

#human activity#

I'm thinking about how to split 1 BTC for future use. if the price will go somewhere to the 1m level I will however be under the radar of large fiat tx monitoring (<10k EUR) by authorities if I have to transfer it to a marketplace.

I'm uncertain about to spilt 1 BTC to 1,000 (0.001) or 10,000 (0.0001) adresses and hold them on a TREZOR.

any thoughts on that from you guys?

EDIT: but I think split 1 BTC to 1,000 adresses (1,000 x 0.001) should be enough.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse
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Hahaha lol thats a nice one
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January 04, 2020, 04:12:16 PM

#human activity#

I'm thinking about how to split 1 BTC for future use. if the price will go somewhere to the 1m level I will however be under the radar of large fiat tx monitoring (<10k EUR) by authorities.

I'm uncertain about to spilt 1 BTC to 1,000 (0.001) or 10,000 (0.0001) adresses and hold them on a TREZOR.

any thoughts on that from you guys?

EDIT: but I think split 1 BTC to 1,000 adresses (1,000 x 0.001) should be enough.

All the effort we made in 2017 to try merge our BTC to avoid outrageous fees when claiming forks and now you are telling us it was an stupid move?

On perspective, yeah, it somehow was.

But... splitting one BTC into 1000 addresses? That is even more stupid.

If you want to split a BTC why not something like: 1x0.5, 1x0.25, 2x0.1, 5x0.01

I don't think the price will go somewhere near that "1m" level, at least not in this decade, but... if it happened I am sure I would have enough money to solve the problem and don't care.

Really, you don't want to split a BTC into that many useless parts that could be worth even less than the fees to move em.

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January 04, 2020, 04:13:49 PM


Probably going to be true, I think?
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#human activity#

I'm thinking about how to split 1 BTC for future use. if the price will go somewhere to the 1m level I will however be under the radar of large fiat tx monitoring (<10k EUR) by authorities.

I'm uncertain about to spilt 1 BTC to 1,000 (0.001) or 10,000 (0.0001) adresses and hold them on a TREZOR.

any thoughts on that from you guys?

EDIT: but I think split 1 BTC to 1,000 adresses (1,000 x 0.001) should be enough.

All the effort we made in 2017 to try merge our BTC to avoid outrageous fees when claiming forks and now you are telling us it was an stupid move?

On perspective, yeah, it somehow was.

But... splitting one BTC into 1000 addresses? That is even more stupid.

If you want to split a BTC why not something like: 1x0.5, 1x0.25, 2x0.1, 5x0.01

I don't think the price will go somewhere near that "1m" level, at least not in this decade, but... if it happened I am sure I would have enough money to solve the problem and don't care.

Really, you don't want to split a BTC into that many useless parts that could be worth even less than the fees to move em.

two aspects: long term hodling and privacy. (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse)

at the moment it is a boring time with such low fees for txs. in the last days I got confirmed a tx (< 10$) in the very next block with just a fee of < 0.01$(!). in early times it was possible to get txs approved with no fee but I'm not sure if it will work today anymore (all wallets don't allow tx without a fee i guess).

EDIT: I very like the concept of paper wallets with 1 BTC on it. but think about the future. you will have later several $200,000 or $500,000 papers in your tresor at home laying around?   
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two aspects: long term hodling and privacy. (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse)

at the moment it is a boring time with such low fees for tx. in the last days I got confirmed a tx (< 10 $) in the very next block with just 0.01$ fee. in early times it was possible to get txs approved with no fee but I'm not sure if it will work today anymore. (all wallets don't allowed tx without a fee i guess).

Fees are low right now, but if Bitcoin grows fees with be high again. Maybe not that high as in Q4 2017, but still.

For the privacy aspect, unless you use a mixer or do some very convoluted movements yourself it will still be relatively easy to see where those smaller addresses come from.

And if you do use a mixer or are able to really ofuscate your coins... then comes the problem on future AML/KYC where you could have problems spending your coins.

Conclusion: Having some partition for your coins, yep. But not too much.

At least that my personal opinion on the matter.
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Last edit: January 04, 2020, 04:54:01 PM by Gyrsur


two aspects: long term hodling and privacy. (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse)

at the moment it is a boring time with such low fees for tx. in the last days I got confirmed a tx (< 10 $) in the very next block with just 0.01$ fee. in early times it was possible to get txs approved with no fee but I'm not sure if it will work today anymore. (all wallets don't allowed tx without a fee i guess).
For the privacy aspect, unless you use a mixer or do some very convoluted movements yourself it will still be relatively easy to see where those smaller addresses come from.

how? I'm very interested in your answer, really. (if you still have fragmented amounts of 1 BTC in your hardware wallet it will be no large issue. i can send you 0.001 BTC and you should tell me afterwards since when i hodl the the source amount and how much the source amount was.)


And if you do use a mixer or are able to really ofuscate your coins... then comes the problem on future AML/KYC where you could have problems spending your coins.

if you have countries like Portugal or Germany (where you just have to prove you own the address more than a year) i do expect not a large problem even if you have to go with the AML/KYC procedure.

Prove of ownership more than a year in the past for a single adress with a amount of 0.001 BTC on it would be perfect for me in 2027.  Grin
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January 04, 2020, 04:34:10 PM

Chart view:
I expect 4H candle to become (and close in) green, and in turn, daily too.
The road for next pump should be paved then.


Are you guaranteeing this?   Angry Angry Angry  Did you, first, consult with fucktwat bargain boyz?   Embarrassed
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January 04, 2020, 04:35:05 PM

#human activity#

I'm thinking about how to split 1 BTC for future use. if the price will go somewhere to the 1m level I will however be under the radar of large fiat tx monitoring (<10k EUR) by authorities.

I'm uncertain about to spilt 1 BTC to 1,000 (0.001) or 10,000 (0.0001) adresses and hold them on a TREZOR.

any thoughts on that from you guys?

EDIT: but I think split 1 BTC to 1,000 adresses (1,000 x 0.001) should be enough.

All the effort we made in 2017 to try merge our BTC to avoid outrageous fees when claiming forks and now you are telling us it was an stupid move?

On perspective, yeah, it somehow was.

But... splitting one BTC into 1000 addresses? That is even more stupid.

If you want to split a BTC why not something like: 1x0.5, 1x0.25, 2x0.1, 5x0.01

I don't think the price will go somewhere near that "1m" level, at least not in this decade, but... if it happened I am sure I would have enough money to solve the problem and don't care.

Really, you don't want to split a BTC into that many useless parts that could be worth even less than the fees to move em.

two aspects: long term hodling and privacy. (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse)

at the moment it is a boring time with such low fees for txs. in the last days I got confirmed a tx (< 10$) in the very next block with just a fee of < 0.01$(!). in early times it was possible to get txs approved with no fee but I'm not sure if it will work today anymore (all wallets don't allow tx without a fee i guess).

EDIT: I very like the concept of paper wallets with 1 BTC on it. but think about the future. you will have later several $200,000 or $500,000 papers in your tresor at home laying around?   

Damn those worries....How to split or in what way to split a BTC-luxury problems, mostly solves themselves ...

More important is for those that are trying to gain with small portions a full BTC<---- thats a real problem, with a ticking clock
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#human activity#

I'm thinking about how to split 1 BTC for future use. if the price will go somewhere to the 1m level I will however be under the radar of large fiat tx monitoring (<10k EUR) by authorities if I have to transfer it to a marketplace.

I'm uncertain about to spilt 1 BTC to 1,000 (0.001) or 10,000 (0.0001) adresses and hold them on a TREZOR.

any thoughts on that from you guys?

EDIT: but I think split 1 BTC to 1,000 adresses (1,000 x 0.001) should be enough.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse

 The cost is pretty low @ 1 sat per byte if you don't mind a few hours wait



 courtesy of https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/fee-calculator/
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January 04, 2020, 04:57:03 PM

#human activity#

I'm thinking about how to split 1 BTC for future use. if the price will go somewhere to the 1m level I will however be under the radar of large fiat tx monitoring (<10k EUR) by authorities if I have to transfer it to a marketplace.

I'm uncertain about to spilt 1 BTC to 1,000 (0.001) or 10,000 (0.0001) adresses and hold them on a TREZOR.

any thoughts on that from you guys?

EDIT: but I think split 1 BTC to 1,000 adresses (1,000 x 0.001) should be enough.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse

 The cost is pretty low @ 1 sat per byte if you don't mind a few hours wait



 courtesy of https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/fee-calculator/


The cost per transaction is indeed very low now.
I am not that concerned about splitting my bitcoin stash into smaller amounts.
Coinjoin, Taproot, Dandelion and other privacy enhancing features will surely be widely available by the time I will spend my BTC.

(To the IRS guy reading this chat: this is highly hypothetical. I had bitcoins, but I lost my private keys on a boating accident).
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January 04, 2020, 05:00:18 PM

even though you failed and refused to get four wheel drive in it

incorrectomundo, JJG

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January 04, 2020, 05:02:03 PM

I liked the original too.  Smiley


Ot oh!



I like this one... I'm stealing it for my thread about Donald Trump memes.
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January 04, 2020, 05:02:11 PM

even though you failed and refused to get four wheel drive in it

incorrectomundo, JJG

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@jbreher, why don't you give the game a try and a small text about why you think the guessed price you would give??
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