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January 14, 2020, 07:22:40 PM

The Bitcoin SV pump is based on CSW's saying that the bonded courier actually showed up with the tulip trust keys. In other words, he says he's now in possession of 1 million or so BTC (half of which is supposed to go to the Kleimans).

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/
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January 14, 2020, 07:30:29 PM

The Bitcoin SV pump is based on CSW's saying that the bonded courier actually showed up with the tulip trust keys. In other words, he says he's now in possession of 1 million or so BTC (half of which is supposed to go to the Kleimans).

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/

If only there were a way for him to prove that they keys arrived and that he truly is (along with Kleiman) Satoshi.

If only...
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January 14, 2020, 07:30:48 PM

The Bitcoin SV pump is based on the rumor that CSW's bonded courier actually showed up with the final remaining tulip trust key. In other words, that Craig is now in possession of 1 million or so BTC.

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/

yea, I kind of knew it, did not want to poison the atmosphere...
freaking rumor is worth $2.5bil. Talking about market manipulation.
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January 14, 2020, 07:34:57 PM

You can barely see it, but the Weekly CMF (chaikin money flow) has finally turned positive again (at least on Coinbase at +0.01), values last seen in April-September. Looks like the start of a trend shift, even if I'm still skeptical. The Week would need to close positive for this to be confirmed I'm assuming, otherwise it could act as a rejection from neutral level (0).



Noticeably Bitstamp is still -0.01, but the relevance is, we are at similar CMF levels to early April 2019 Cool
That's my bullish input for all you moon boys anyway.
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January 14, 2020, 07:36:28 PM

chain monkey flow?
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January 14, 2020, 07:38:25 PM

The Bitcoin SV pump is based on CSW's saying that the bonded courier actually showed up with the tulip trust keys. In other words, he says he's now in possession of 1 million or so BTC (half of which is supposed to go to the Kleimans).

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/

No way it is true - short the shit out of his coin.

Nothing he has said was ever even remotely convincing so far, why would it be now?
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January 14, 2020, 07:39:52 PM

The Bitcoin SV pump is based on CSW's saying that the bonded courier actually showed up with the tulip trust keys. In other words, he says he's now in possession of 1 million or so BTC (half of which is supposed to go to the Kleimans).

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/

If only there were a way for him to prove that they keys arrived and that he truly is (along with Kleiman) Satoshi.

If only...


You mean prove, cryptographically that he is Satoshi Nakamoto by signing a message?

That’s asking for too much Wink
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January 14, 2020, 07:40:45 PM

The Bitcoin SV pump is based on CSW's saying that the bonded courier actually showed up with the tulip trust keys. In other words, he says he's now in possession of 1 million or so BTC (half of which is supposed to go to the Kleimans).

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/

No way it is true - short the shit out of his coin.

Nothing he has said was ever even remotely convincing so far, why would it be now?

someone already did at around 0.24 (BFX).
for a moment here BSV>BCH...just an observation since pre-fork btc contains "the multitude", hence it is somewhat relevant to hodlers.
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January 14, 2020, 07:41:08 PM
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I don't know about you, but I am a proud Bitcoin hodler. Perhaps you are referring to yourself and your wankcoin?   Grin Grin Grin

Okay, obviously deserved that, but no. Tongue

My sincere apologies ivomm, I really thought that it was jonoiv that I was responding to - hence my aggression.
I'm a proud Bitcoin hodler also.


We have not seen jonoiv for a quite a bit of time.

He must be hanging out with bargain boyz, waiting for sub $6k.  Maybe he will get lucky?  Maybe not? 

In the meantime, they got no coins, those dumb fucks.

In the same boat as roach... chasing the train, perhaps if they are smart... likely not.
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January 14, 2020, 07:43:02 PM

Has anybody here ever bought BSV?

Please, be honest guys. I could do with a good laugh.
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January 14, 2020, 07:44:42 PM

/adds LFC to wrench list/

11.1 to 111.1 BTC.
Not bad for a 5$ steel chunck.


https://xkcd.com/538/



Sometime in the future this will be called the $500 dollar wrench attach
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January 14, 2020, 07:45:08 PM

chain monkey flow?

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January 14, 2020, 07:46:21 PM

Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $8,656

Vegeta day?

Haha!
I’m ready Smiley




 Such a good feeling Wink




This is why I love you guys. Everyone shares ideas and then somebody runs with them to another level.

Such an awesome thing to be a part of.
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January 14, 2020, 07:47:27 PM

chain monkey flow?

Yes: tensioning of your chain monkey.
Edit: Already got it before the image  Tongue
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January 14, 2020, 07:48:12 PM
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ivomm and WO friends

I wouldn't touch it myself either, but I have never seen a coin with a market cap over $1,000,000,000 go up 96% in one day.   smell a trap.

BTC hodler only.



Fucking hell!

Bitcoin SV (BSV)
£257.05 99.0%

Do you think they’ll dump it & pump it into corn!

Arent they about to have a release where craig and betbuddy can claim all unclaimed coins? I imagine if that's the case it will be right after that moment
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January 14, 2020, 07:49:05 PM

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It's a good thing I didn't vote in the latest poll.  I would not have foreseen this pump, para nada.

I am wrong some 80% of the time trying to make short-term trades (inc. buying BTC, price goes down immediately after I buy).  That same pattern has always been with me: casinos, put options on the S&P 500, buying gold, etc., bang!, they go down as soon as I buy.

Now I stay away from short-term & rigged games (inc. alt-coins).

BTC and Au: HODL!  Nice diversification, works for me.

BTC and gold are not equal.. not even close.

Of course, each person has to chose for himself, but at the most, I would take the total amount that is invested in BTC/gold and allocate it at least 95% BTC/  less than 5% gold.  Of course, your amount could vary a little bit and still be prudent, but it should not be approaching anything even close to 50/50... my thinking is that gold is only good in an Armageddon-like scenario which has less than a 1% chance of happening, so your portfolio should be less than 1% gold.  You might consider the odds for Armageddon to be higher, so that would justify a higher holding percentage in gold, but I would think that you are unrealistic (of course, somewhat reasonable minds can vary about those kinds of assessments).
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homer is a fucking asshole, always has to go one better Wink

Kidding, love you homer #nohomo
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Has anybody here ever bought BSV?

Please, be honest guys. I could do with a good laugh.

not me, but from a trade point of view would have been a good move yesterday, lol.
I contemplated throwing a thou on it based on a principle of high risk/high reward (and observing a strange move from $80 to $160), but could not make myself do it. Would have been an easy money for a new PC/Mac, etc.
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January 14, 2020, 07:54:04 PM

Has anybody here ever bought BSV?

Please, be honest guys. I could do with a good laugh.

mined some yeeeears ago...as it turns out
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CME did more BTC Options volume on Day 1 than Bakkt did today.
RIP Bakkt
Hardly knew you

Tiny bit early to judge, nonetheless gutting for Rekkt Bakkt

Bakkt trades options eventually settling into real Bitcoins.
CME   trades options eventually settling into shitcoin US Dollars.

Difference is not trivial.

Usual self-promoting ad:
Everything you wanted to know about BTC options but were afraid to ask!

Yeah, but in practice, is it really true?  Are we making a distinction without a difference?

Does BAKKT really have the bitcoins that they proclaim to have?

This is a naive question, bringing me some interesting other question, I will later try to answer.

Go for the naive part: Bakkt has the Bitcoin? YES.
How do I know? Contract specification.

When you own a future, you are constantly (well, at COB) called to margin your positions. This means that when you open a position in a future you are required to post a certain amount of cash along your position. You cannot open a position if you haven’t a big enough amount of cash in a collateral cash balance at the exchange. This amount is set by the exchange to cover the daily variation of the underlying (BTC, in this case, but this mechanism is valid for any underlying). At the end of the trading day this cash  balance is adjusted to reflect the P&L of the future position: money is poured in if your future position has gone in the right direction, otherwise the exchange take from this account the daily loss (and transfer it to your counterpart). In case the residual cash balance is lower than the initial margin, you are called to refill your margins (the infamous “margin call”, or to close forced into closing the position). This means two things: firstly the exchange has no credit risk: every counterpart has a daily margining so their exposure is not too big, second the P&L is actually credited daily in the exchange, so frauds are very limited.
So, can BAKKT exit scam you? Very unlikely, as this is the opposite way this business works (also:  BAKKT and maybe CME would suffer a tremendous reputation as risk putting their own existence at risk in case of a default).

The hard part in all this reasoning: is this margining all done in BTC? As per my explanation it should. But I don’t remember anything like that in the product specification. I will check later, when real life settles a little bit.
I am going also to put this answer in my futures related thread, as it is a point I would have liked to cover, but I actually didn’t.
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