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I'm really conflicted about rising number under the circumstances.

And Bob...what do we do with the indigenous Madagascans?
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I'm really conflicted about rising number under the circumstances.

And Bob...what do we do with the indigenous Madagascans?

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January 27, 2020, 07:14:42 PM

China successfully found acceptable excuse for the recession they enter. Lets see what fairy tale America and Germany will come up with.
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January 27, 2020, 07:17:31 PM

China successfully found acceptable excuse for the recession they enter. Lets see what fairy tale America and Germany will come up with.


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I think the rebound is over, we can still visit the weekly ma200 @5261
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I think the rebound is over, we can still visit the weekly ma200 @5261

But my TA based on Vegeta is better so it's definitely going up.

(Also, bearish trendline is totally broken + weekly MACD candle is green. Or whatever. )
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He lost any credibility he had a while ago, buddy.
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@ Searing, I could have told you for free that selling 13BTC for $3xxx last year was a bad idea.
I hope you still have at least 20-25 left because that was a bad move, brother.
He's got about 98 of them (at least after those anticipated sales of those shitcoins)

That's not creepy. At all. I recall you made a guesstimate at my stash at one time as well...

His dick measuring has always been a dominant feature.  Thing is.. in my experience the people who are comfortable with their holding and risk levels don't feel the need to do that sort of thing.  It's really a form of compensation.  Who cares what someone else has.  At least enough to try to start some kind of guessing game?  

Well there's 3 letter agencies, crooks, and insecure people.
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January 27, 2020, 07:35:38 PM
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I think the rebound is over, we can still visit the weekly ma200 @5261

I am making it official here, Going all in @ 5500.

That's why it is never going to happen.
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January 27, 2020, 07:37:26 PM
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But you know what is really cooking my goose?

Fucking BCash.  Not because I don't/want it to go up, or down, or sideways.  It's not that at all.  It is specific to the situation it is in currently.

It's just that they make an announcement they are going to prove their centralized nature by adding a TAX to the mining that someone (The Bcash council?) gets to decide how to spen... Damn I can't even finish typing this it's so stupid.  

But why the hell IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THEY ARE PROVING THEMSELVES TO BE A SCAM is the price going UP?!??!??

Someone please tell me it trades so thinly that it's being manipulated.

Because otherwise we have SO MUCH MORE stupid to weed out.  I am just so tired of the scams.

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What the actual fuck?




Seriously THAT can't be right?
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It has intrinsic value but part of that value is that it has the potential to replace currencies. They actually call it a cryptocurrency...so maybe it should be used as one.

The trend has not been toward more uses in spending but less. I have to agree with Mark Cuban on this one...if you can't use it other than just speculating on it, then what's the point? Just speculate on any number of other things with limited amounts.

My hope has always been that it will replace the dollar. Without the dollar, the US cannot print money out of nowhere to fund its endless wars.

I do agree in that part of the intrinsic value is it being a means of payment. I have indeed used it sometimes (few to be honest) for payment. Graham's money rule applies strongly here though. Why use "good" (BTC) money instead of "bad" (FIAT) money for spending? That is a consequence of having other qualities such as (a huge) potential of appreciation. When that vanishes maybe you will see more usage as a currency.

I think that you meant to refer to Gresham's law...

Any, I understand the point that you are making, and you even seem to be suggesting that you don't really buy the theory (or possibility) that bitcoin is designed to pump forever, which would kind of imply that we don't ever quite get to the status of anyone really wanting to spend their bitcoin because there are always going to be inferior monies out there to spend.  Of course, if you only have bitcoin, you are going to spend it, but if you have any other monies, you will spend that (those) first.

I will personally concede that even if you are a fuck all young person in his/her sub-teens currently reading this thread, you might not even live long enough to see the day in which bitcoin is the only currency.. just assuming for the sake of argument that there might be some current thread readers that will still be alive in the year 2120 (about 20 years before the mining rewards are scheduled to end).




But... replacing the dollar? Replacing the US (or any other state) "printing"? I donno. I mean... one of the most important ways of control states do need and use is "printing of money" to balance economy. I know it is a libertarian thing to think that if Bitcoin would succeed it would go and replace FIAT and stop the "printing press". I don't think so. They would find a way to control the economy no matter what. Otherwise they would never let BTC (or any equivalent decentralised cryptocurrency) succeed in replacing FIAT.

Never say never.

There are lot's of things that we have difficulties to anticipate.  I recall that around the time that I got into bitcoin, in late 2013, I had been involved in some of those kinds of libertarian debates at that time that continuously suggest that the USA Government is imminently ready to collapse, and some of those kinds of speculations.  I personally asserted that I had difficulties speculating that the USA government and/or dollar could reasonably collapse in a time frame that is less than 30 years.  We have more evidence of further desperation and lame ass irresponsibility behaviors of USA leaders that might cause some of us to speculate that they are even more irresponsible in the gradually and then suddenly direction.

Surely, in the past there were some conceptual difficulties to consider vehicles in which some other currency, whether the Euro or the Yuan or some other currency might take the place of the dollar, yet bitcoin has been designed to fit into that kind of a role...

Yeah, sure such value gravitation does not have to flow into bitcoin in any kind of sudden way, but bitcoin is exactly there to potentially serve in a kind of safety net kind of way that could even possibly lessen the chances of Armageddon or even any kind of physical/army revolutionary transition.... Yeah, there are going to be states that bomb and kill innocent people for a while, but even those kinds of problematic outcomes might not lead to any kind of Armageddon transition as being a transition condition precedent in order to allow for more and more value to gravitate into bitcoin.. which does not have or even need governments in order to operate decently well and how it is designed.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that we don't need a world without government because in my personal opinion, there are a lot of ways that governments are needed in order to balance some public good type resources that would have lots of difficulties in a world without governments, but governments are likely going to be forced to figure out ways to accomplish their public works in ways that account for the various powers of king daddy.


The dollar will eventually die, yeah, but I don't see how they will allow it being replaced by anything else that they can exert some amount of control over it.

Yeah, of course, "they" are going to fight king daddy here and there... but there is only so much that can be done to actually win against king daddy.  AmiNOTrite?  Yeah, it could take 30, 50, 100 or more years, but I doubt that I am even going to be around, personally in 50 years, so it would be hard for me, personally, to proclaim: " I told you so."... not that I am trying to be right.. I hardly give any shits, anyhow about these more macro-issues, and I am just attempting to be descriptive rather than prescriptive... Why do I give any shits about bitcoin, except to attempt to protect my own personal strategies in regards to managing my two digits stash.
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January 27, 2020, 07:43:59 PM
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But why the hell IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THEY ARE PROVING THEMSELVES TO BE A SCAM is the price going UP?!??!??

Bitcoin Gold got 51% attacked again.

The price went up 18% on the good news.

Just feel and roll with it, baby.
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I think the rebound is over, we can still visit the weekly ma200 @5261

But my TA based on Vegeta is better so it's definitely going up.

(Also, bearish trendline is totally broken + weekly MACD candle is green. Or whatever. )

In other words, fuck those wannabe soothsayer bear diptwats.. whether they have a name like Masterluc or they refer to their lil selfies as sum udder lil thingilie-ma-jiggilie...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Honey badger no doesn't care.   Wink Wink
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January 27, 2020, 08:00:27 PM

Gents, let the party begin. Momentum is on our side.

$8971.9 (78.6%) is likely to fall. then next mark is the AYH $9169.5 (100%).


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@ Searing, I could have told you for free that selling 13BTC for $3xxx last year was a bad idea.
I hope you still have at least 20-25 left because that was a bad move, brother.
He's got about 98 of them (at least after those anticipated sales of those shitcoins)

That's not creepy. At all. I recall you made a guesstimate at my stash at one time as well...

His dick measuring has always been a dominant feature.  Thing is.. in my experience the people who are comfortable with their holding and risk levels don't feel the need to do that sort of thing.  It's really a form of compensation.  Who cares what someone else has.  At least enough to try to start some kind of guessing game?  

Well there's 3 letter agencies, crooks, and insecure people.

Look who's got psychological armchairing all figured out....  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Whoaza!!!!!!

Your assessment of my specific condition does help me to attempt to "deal with" the matter - though I am getting my bearings right now.. regarding this ....



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But you know what is really cooking my goose?

Fucking BCash.  Not because I don't/want it to go up, or down, or sideways.  It's not that at all.  It is specific to the situation it is in currently.

It's just that they make an announcement they are going to prove their centralized nature by adding a TAX to the mining that someone (The Bcash council?) gets to decide how to spen... Damn I can't even finish typing this it's so stupid.  

But why the hell IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THEY ARE PROVING THEMSELVES TO BE A SCAM is the price going UP?!??!??

Someone please tell me it trades so thinly that it's being manipulated.

Because otherwise we have SO MUCH MORE stupid to weed out.  I am just so tired of the scams.

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What the actual fuck?




Seriously THAT can't be right?

Didn't I recently tell you that CMC volumes are fake? I did.

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Bitcoin Market Cap: $151 billion
Bitcoin 24 Hour Volume: $20 billion

Total Crypto Market Cap: $230 billion
Total Crypto 24 Hour Volume: $77 billion

Bitcoin dominance: 66.1%

https://twitter.com/apompliano/status/1221139731976806400?s=21

I like pomp but seeing him making a noob mistake like that makes me sad.

The volume you see on CMC is %95 fake. (tldr; %95 of the exchanges you see there are wash trading, most of them don't have any real customers at all)
https://bitcoinist.com/coinmarketcap-fake-cryptocurrency-volume/

Real 24h trading volume of btc is around 1 billion USD.
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January 27, 2020, 08:09:15 PM

Gents, let the party begin. Momentum is on our side.

$8971.9 (78.6%) is likely to fall. then next mark is the AYH $9169.5 (100%).


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GO BTC GO!

We don't use Bitfinex in these here parts in order to make BTC price references... especially if we are getting into discussions of ATH or AYH or any other general attempt to gauge the relative location or health status of our king daddy   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Accordingly, current AYH happens to be $9,188.10   Tongue
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January 27, 2020, 08:15:01 PM

This frustrates me as my support for Bitcoin is as a currency, not as some sort of replacement for gold to be exchanged and used for long term savings. The plan was to replace fiat...not just exchange value in fiat.

I have not seen anything to get my hopes up on this at all. When BitPay turned into BitCashPay we lost a major advance toward using Bitcoin as a currency. I have learned that BTCPay is a great solution for this but most companies just want to sign up for a service and have money deposited in their bank accounts.


My hope has always been that it will replace the dollar. Without the dollar, the US cannot print money out of nowhere to fund its endless wars.


Our collective operating system (culture) is lagging behind the possibilities provided by technology (as usual). In order to do things like replace the Dollar, the Bitcoin Network still needs to grow more nodes (users) and that takes time because updating operating systems in humans takes long, is exceedingly cumbersome and sometimes even impossible.

It may take a generation or two for Bitcoin's potential to be fully realized. That Max Planck quote comes to mind: "“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”"

I am convinced we'll get there. Let's be patient and keep working on it.
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